Who is your all-time least favorite Cowboy?

KJJ

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I don't get all the hate for TO. He caught 38 TD passes in 3 seasons as a Cowboy. He's far and away the best player Tony Romo has gotten to play with and a big part of why we were able to go 13-3 in 2007. Romo was able to be Romo because of TO...love him or hate him, he was a great player for us.

What's there not to get? He desecrated the Cowboys star at mid field after scoring a TD that not only angered Cowboy fans but his own head coach who suspended him for a game. TO was hated by Cowboy fans long before he became a Cowboy. He was hated by just about everyone after what he pulled in Philly that got him booted. He was a very productive player for the Cowboys but TO was all about his own production than winning games.

He always gave off the impression that he would rather have a big game and lose than an unproductive game and win. I lost track of how many times I saw I'm pouting on the sidelines in games the Cowboys were winning because he wasn't getting the ball. TO was a great player but he was a "me" guy not a "team" guy.
 

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What's there not to get? He desecrated the Cowboys star at mid field after scoring a TD that not only angered Cowboy fans but his own head coach who suspended him for a game. TO was hated by Cowboy fans long before he became a Cowboy. He was hated by just about everyone after what he pulled in Philly that got him booted. He was a very productive player for the Cowboys but TO was all about his own production than winning games.

He always gave off the impression that he would rather have a big game and lose than an unproductive game and win. I lost track of how many times I saw I'm pouting on the sidelines in games the Cowboys were winning because he wasn't getting the ball. TO was a great player but he was a "me" guy not a "team" guy.

That's a bit different than what teammates thought of him. He worked very hard and was popular. Hardly the "me" guy you portrayed
 

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I don't get all the hate for TO. He caught 38 TD passes in 3 seasons as a Cowboy. He's far and away the best player Tony Romo has gotten to play with and a big part of why we were able to go 13-3 in 2007. Romo was able to be Romo because of TO...love him or hate him, he was a great player for us.

Jason Witten might not agree with this.
 

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That's a bit different than what teammates thought of him. He worked very hard and was popular. Hardly the "me" guy you portrayed

I think you are mostly correct, at least as long as things were going well.
 

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Jason Witten might not agree with this.

That wasn't a knock on Witten, but TO in his prime, when he was with Dallas, is/was a better player than Witten. Both are all time players at their position, but (in my opinion) TO is/was a better receiver than Witten is/was a TE.
 

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That's a bit different than what teammates thought of him. He worked very hard and was popular. Hardly the "me" guy you portrayed

TO worked hard but his actions over the course of his career gave him the reputation as a team cancer. He wasn't popular with all his teammates just ask Jeff Garcia and Donavan McNabb. TO portrayed himself as a "me" guy and if he was so popular with everyone than why did the Cowboys cut him after 3 very productive seasons?

It all started coming apart for TO with the Cowboys after his side line rant during the loss to Pittsburgh in Dec of 08 because he wasn't getting the ball. It was reported that he and Witten came to blows. Something had to of gone down for the Cowboys to release him after that season.
 

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That's a bit different than what teammates thought of him.

This thread is about what fans think. Teammates see a side of players fans don't usually see. Fans can only judge a player by how they portray themselves in front of the camera and on the field. I've seen interviews with TO where he comes off as a pretty likable guy but he built an unsavory reputation for himself which caused him to bounce around the league until he ended up out of the league.
 

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TO worked hard but his actions over the course of his career gave him the reputation as a team cancer. He wasn't popular with all his teammates just ask Jeff Garcia and Donavan McNabb. TO portrayed himself as a "me" guy and if he was so popular with everyone than why did the Cowboys cut him after 3 very productive seasons?

It all started coming apart for TO with the Cowboys after his side line rant during the loss to Pittsburgh in Dec of 08 because he wasn't getting the ball. It was reported that he and Witten came to blows. Something had to of gone down for the Cowboys to release him after that season.

It was clear that we were moving on from him. He was 35 and was trailing off production-wise. Just not worth the price anymore. We had just acquired Roy Williams and the staff liked Austin a great deal.

I'd love more info on the Witten fight because, you know, I follow this team really closely (probably more so then than now) and I can't recall that on this board at all.

As far as sideline rants by WRs who wanted the ball, it seems like three of the most productive guys we've had here all do that same. I know Parcells was fond of saying something akin to "WRs should want the ball"
 

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This thread is about what fans think. Teammates see a side of players fans don't usually see. Fans can only judge a player by how they portray themselves in front of the camera and on the field. I've seen interviews with TO where he comes off as a pretty likable guy but he built an unsavory reputation for himself which caused him to bounce around the league until he ended up out of the league.

Umm, I'm a fan and I take that all into consideration.

Do you mean this thread is supposed to be about what stupid mindless sheep fans think?
 
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That wasn't a knock on Witten, but TO in his prime, when he was with Dallas, is/was a better player than Witten. Both are all time players at their position, but (in my opinion) TO is/was a better receiver than Witten is/was a TE.

His first two years with us, T.O was unstoppable. With that being said, I have absolutely no idea how we could even begin to compare a TE vs. WR.
 

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It was clear that we were moving on from him. He was 35 and was trailing off production-wise. Just not worth the price anymore. We had just acquired Roy Williams and the staff liked Austin a great deal.

I'd love more info on the Witten fight because, you know, I follow this team really closely (probably more so then than now) and I can't recall that on this board at all.

As far as sideline rants by WRs who wanted the ball, it seems like three of the most productive guys we've had here all do that same. I know Parcells was fond of saying something akin to "WRs should want the ball"

There was no indication heading into the 08 season the Cowboys were going to move on from TO if he remained productive which he did. Teams don't move on from a receiver after a 1000-plus yard season with 15 TD's if there isn't an issue with them. The reports about TO being released started up after the Steelers loss and Ed Werders story. The Cowboys acquired Roy Williams to pair him with TO in hopes they would provide a dynamic WR duo. Williams did practically nothing in the 10 games he played that season and although the Cowboys liked Austin he only had 18 receptions for just under 350 yards in his 3 seasons with the team. Jerry stated after the 08 season that TO would be coming back but reports surfaced that Stephen wanted him gone and talked Jerry into releasing him. As for the rumored Witten/TO confrontation click on the link.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3767580
 

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I don't get all the hate for TO. He caught 38 TD passes in 3 seasons as a Cowboy. He's far and away the best player Tony Romo has gotten to play with and a big part of why we were able to go 13-3 in 2007. Romo was able to be Romo because of TO...love him or hate him, he was a great player for us.

how many td's did he drop??
jokes, jokes:D
 

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Umm, I'm a fan and I take that all into consideration.

Do you mean this thread is supposed to be about what stupid mindless sheep fans think?

Practically every thread and post that's submitted here is about what stupid mindless sheep fans think as well as those who aren't so stupid and mindless.
 

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I'd love more info on the Witten fight because, you know, I follow this team really closely (probably more so then than now) and I can't recall that on this board at all.

I've been following the team closely since 1972 and have a very good recall. I don't make any claims that I can't provide a link for. What reportedly happened between TO and Witten along with what went down the final month of the 08 season is why TO got released.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3767580
 

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What, no mention of Bobby Carpenter yet? :D

I actually can't think of a reason to hate him as a person, just resented the fact that he was one of the biggest draft busts in my 20 years of fandom (Shante Carver and David LeFleur are also up there)

Oh yeah, couldn't stand Mario Edwards either for reasons I can't recall.

By the way, can you believe Edwards has a kid who's a Sophomore DE @ FSU? Feel like we just drafted him a few years ago... time flies!!
 

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Barry Switzer just came to mind. Probably wouldn't top my list but I don't recall seeing his name.
 

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I've been following the team closely since 1972 and have a very good recall. I don't make any claims that I can't provide a link for. What reportedly happened between TO and Witten along with what went down the final month of the 08 season is why TO got released.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3767580

Separated is not came to blows as you claimed.

Occam's razor says being 35 and less productive is the real reason for release
 
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