Who makes the team now that O Scan is on IR

[pacboyX]

Swaim (I was keeping him over Hanna anyway) ... although I could see us keeping Gibson now.

My breakdown is:

QBs: Romo, Weeden, Vaughan (Showers on PS)

RBs: Randle, McFadden, Dunbar, Clutts (Johnson on PS)

TEs: Witten, Escobar, Swaim, Hanna

WRs: Bryant, Williams, Beasley, Street, Whitehead (Harwell, Porter on PS)

OL: Smith, Leary, Frederick, Martin, Free, Weems, Collins, Bernadeau (Gibson on PS, Green on PUP)

DL: Mincey, T. Crawford, Coleman, Lawrence, Gregory, J. Crawford, Hayden, T. McClain, Bishop, Russell, Gardner (Hardy suspended, Obada on PS)

LB: Lee, Hitchens, Wilber, Wilson, Brinkley, Gachkar (McClain suspended, K. Smith on PS)

DBs: Carr, Church, Wilcox, Claiborne, Jones, White, Patmon, Heath, McCray (Scott on PS)

ST: Bailey, Ladouceur, Jones

I acknowledge that keeping 11 DL is a little high (especially since we'd actually be keeping 12 with Hardy), so one of those guys might go for a ninth OL. We also could keep Keith Smith over one of the DL if he continues to play like he did the other night and contribute on ST.

Clutts and a 4th TE? Does Swaim help on ST over Showers? Showers may relieve time from CBs on ST..

 

[cowboyblue22]

I think its possible they bring in a corner and lineman after cutdowns maybe a running back

 

[conner01]

You have 3 options
Keep an extra player at another spot
Add a vet
Or keep one of the rookies like Ross
If you don't add a cb I would think you would want one or two on the ps at least
From what I've read on Ross he seems to be having a nice camp

 

[LittleD]

I can't believe we may lose Ken Bishop and we're gonna keep Hayden. I just don't get it.

We'll make some team aching at DT happy with that cut.

Sorry for you but, you just have to believe it because Marinelli loves him some Hayden and Hayden is staying on
this team as a starter.... Book It!

 

[gimmesix]

Pretty much what I have, except I replaced Scott with either Heath or McCray. And have Keith Smith on the roster until McClain returns. For his spot, I taken off Vaughan or Terrell McClain if he does not get healthy and show something.

Scott for McCray I could live with since McCray doesn't add much outside of special teams. Heath actual does contribute on defense (the quality of those contributions can be debated) and was one of our top special-teammers. If there is no discernible difference between Scott and McCray on special teams, I could see Dallas going with Scott.

We definitely could go with Smith if he plays like he did Sunday, and I'm not 100 percent sold on Vaughan or T. McClain's roster spots. Smith adds special teams value that neither of them provides, and he was our best LB in Sunday's game ... so I actually wouldn't be surprise if he's kept over Brinkley, either.

I do think it's possible we only keep two QBs this year if Vaughan plays like he did against San Fran again.

 

[gimmesix]

Sorry for you but, you just have to believe it because Marinelli loves him some Hayden and Hayden is staying on
this team as a starter.... Book It!

I'm hoping that Coleman's efforts with Hayden out will lead to him getting more playing time than Hayden at the 1-tech, but Coleman has to be consistent to earn it.

I really didn't think Coleman was a true 1-tech option until this preseason because he was more of a 3-tech type last year.

 

[gimmesix]

Why? What has Hayden done so far in camp? Nothing. Hayden isn't making the final roster unless he shows something soon, like right now, No one is picking him up if the Cowboys cut him, So, he is a safe cut that the Cowboys can always add a week or two or three into the season. Not so with Bishop.

The Cowboys like Hayden. He isn't a flashy player. He gets pushed around too much. But he doesn't make many mistakes.

Marinelli likes players who play their assignments and hustle, and that's Hayden. I'm all for upgrading his spot, but until Marinelli changes his nickname from Golden Cock to Limp D—, I think you'll need to get used to the idea that he's not going anywhere.

 

[gimmesix]

Clutts and a 4th TE? Does Swaim help on ST over Showers? Showers may relieve time from CBs on ST..

Based on how Swaim played Sunday, I don't think Dallas would be willing to expose him to waivers, especially considering that it cost the team extra to draft him. And Garrett likes having a true fullback on the team.

Showers is an intriguing player, but 1) no one is likely to pick him up if he's waived and 2) he wouldn't dress on Sundays unless he proved to be so vital on special teams that we'd be willing to just carry him to games for that. Vaughan was active for only one game last year.

I could still see Hanna getting cut for Swaim if push came to shove, but I don't see that being done to keep Showers.

 

[LittleD]

I'm hoping that Coleman's efforts with Hayden out will lead to him getting more playing time than Hayden at the 1-tech, but Coleman has to be consistent to earn it.

I really didn't think Coleman was a true 1-tech option until this preseason because he was more of a 3-tech type last year.

Coleman is bringing it in TC and the games so far and he has a great chance to make this team backing Hayden up as
a 1T. Bishop is probably going to decide on a PS spot or going to another team in a couple of weeks. I like Bishop
but, he's not going to beat out Hayden this year as long as Marinelli is the coach.

 

[Kaiser]

RBs: Randle, McFadden, Dunbar, Clutts (Johnson on PS)

DBs: Carr, Church, Wilcox, Claiborne, Jones, White, Patmon, Heath, McCray (Scott on PS)

Great post, that is how I would handicap it right now. But I do think at the end Clutts will be gone and replace by someone they trade for, Showers is the 3rd QB instead of Vaughn and Terrell McClain could be in real danger of losing his roster spot.

I like Scott for the PS for the DBs but IMO Scandrick being out means Jones spends more time at CB than he would have otherwise, plus White is needed at the slot more than playing FS. The fallout from that is we have four Strong Safeties (really three and a ST guy in McCray) so I would think they pick up a FS from another teams final cutdowns.

 

[gimmesix]

Coleman is bringing it in TC and the games so far and he has a great chance to make this team backing Hayden up as
a 1T. Bishop is probably going to decide on a PS spot or going to another team in a couple of weeks. I like Bishop
but, he's not going to beat out Hayden this year as long as Marinelli is the coach.

I do think there's a chance Bishop beats out T. McClain, though, if Bishop proves reliable. McClain definitely showed he can be an asset when he's in there, but I think he has to be out there to win a spot unlike Hayden, who apparently holds the Golden ... umm ... ticket.

 

[gimmesix]

Great post, that is how I would handicap it right now. But I do think at the end Clutts will be gone and replace by someone they trade for, Showers is the 3rd QB instead of Vaughn and Terrell McClain could be in real danger of losing his roster spot.

I like Scott for the PS for the DBs but IMO Scandrick being out means Jones spends more time at CB than he would have otherwise, plus White is needed at the slot more than playing FS. The fallout from that is we have four Strong Safeties (really three and a ST guy in McCray) so I would think they pick up a FS from another teams final cutdowns.

IMO, Clutts is pretty much a lock. I've seen no indication that Dallas is trying to replace him as a "starter" with a tight end or anyone else. It's an upgradeable position, but I don't think we're looking to upgrade it.

We'll have to see on the Showers/Vaughan thing. If we were having to cut the roster now, I wouldn't keep either on the 53 and I'd probably stash both on the PS.

I also don't think we add any DBs. With the versatility of White and Jones to play both, I don't think we're concerned with it even if Jones has to play more at corner. Dallas hasn't wavered on Church and Wilcox being the starters there, Heath is considered a contributor and White would play deep in certain situations if Jones was needed at corner.

I really think we'll mix it up, though. In the base, it might be Carr, Jones, Church and Wilcox some and Carr, Claiborne, Church and Jones some while in the nickel it might be Carr, Claiborne, Patmon, Jones and White at times or Carr, Jones, Patmon, Church and White some or so on. The versatility of Jones and White gives us the chance to really mix and match.

 

[Kaiser]

Dallas hasn't wavered on Church and Wilcox being the starters there, Heath is considered a contributor and White would play deep in certain situations if Jones was needed at corner.

Its my Windmill to chase, don't take it away from me.

Agree on the DBs, its a deep group that will be able to use different, rested players at multiple positions. I also think it will be hilarious if Claiborne starts and has a solid season.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Coleman is bringing it in TC and the games so far and he has a great chance to make this team backing Hayden up as
a 1T. Bishop is probably going to decide on a PS spot or going to another team in a couple of weeks. I like Bishop
but, he's not going to beat out Hayden this year as long as Marinelli is the coach.

Bishop would have had a better opportunity making the 53-man roster if Jack Crawford wasn't playing so well. Coleman could play the 3-technique but with Crawford showing up he would not have to and can focus on backing up Hayden.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Yes, it would suck if Bishop gets cut.

He is a player that I've focused on in the preseason games and I can't see how they can think Hayden is better. Bishop is strong and quick for a 1tech. He does not appear to be making any mistakes. Coleman flashes more but also makes more mistakes.

Yep. I think Coleman is more of a play maker but I think they're very different players. Bishop can be an ideal 1-tech who can stuff the run and provide pass rush. He's a big boy. Biggest guy on the team. I think Coleman is more of our Melton from last year. Can play in the Nickel, can play both DT spots, and can maybe even play DE. He's more of a situational guy though. Bishop is more of a base starter.

 

[LittleD]

Yep. I think Coleman is more of a play maker but I think they're very different players. Bishop can be an ideal 1-tech who can stuff the run and provide pass rush. He's a big boy. Biggest guy on the team. I think Coleman is more of our Melton from last year. Can play in the Nickel, can play both DT spots, and can maybe even play DE. He's more of a situational guy though. Bishop is more of a base starter.

Your analysis is spot on and I agree on Bishop. If not for Hayden, Bishop would make this team but, alas no chance unless he
settles for the PS. They like McClain even though he's always hurt and they have money invested in him. That might also
be the only hope for Bishop to make the 43 if they let McClain walk.

 

[Kaiser]

They like McClain even though he's always hurt and they have money invested in him. That might also
be the only hope for Bishop to make the 43 if they let McClain walk.

McClain has a salary of one million but it isn't guaranteed. The team saves 800K against the cap if they cut him.

 

[LittleD]

McClain has a salary of one million but it isn't guaranteed. The team saves 800K against the cap if they cut him.

Good to know...I didn't! Gives Bishop a leg up if he can show well over the next two weeks.

 

[LittleD]

Bishop would have had a better opportunity making the 53-man roster if Jack Crawford wasn't playing so well. Coleman could play the 3-technique but with Crawford showing up he would not have to and can focus on backing up Hayden.

Jack Crawford is a lock now to backup Tyrone at the 3T this year and he's gonna be a beast by middle of the year.
If Coleman keeps up his play for two more weeks I think he makes the 53.

 

[FaSho]

I can't see Vaughn making the team, unless he plays well the last 2 preseason games.

Not worth a roster spot, if they don't believe he can be something, IMO