Who needs RW or Chad if Jerra already has T.O., Witten, Bennett and maybe Stanback??

[DallasDomination]

TO did not have a bum ankle against Philly in Texas staduim when we scored 6 points. The Giants and Philly play the same defense and I know they feel as if they have figured out the best way to defend us

what?

romo had a terrible game against philly, and crayton and penalties cost us the giants game....they didnt do anything special or figure anything out.

 

[dogunwo]

Amendola to the rescue!

Can we please stop putting this dude on the roster? Goodness. People already have him replacing Hurd and Austin, some even sliding him in the third slot. There was a reason he went undrafted. It may work out, but those guys rarely do. Can we see him up against the rest of the team first, at least in training camp?

 

[mmillman]

Are you really going to count on Bennett who hasn't played a down yet and Stanback who is at a new position and yet to do anything in the NFL? Come on homers. I am a long time Cowboy fan but Dallas needs to fill the WR slot soon if not now.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Stanback is really the key because Dallas may need 85 or RW if Owens gets hurt or for the future when Owens is either not with Dallas or not performing at his usual high levels.

I like the idea of the two TE sets, but I'm just not buying into Dallas doing it much, probably because they were supposed to do it with Fasano and Witten and never really did. That being said, I do think people overestimate the need for a #2 WR when you have Crayton, Owens and Witten, particularly with Witten's ability to beat defenders deep up the middle. It's more of a luxury to get a #2 than people think. And if Glenn is healthy, Dallas probably doesn't need a #2 WR at all.

Of course it would be nice if Miles Austin learned how to catch.



YAKUZA

 

[Yakuza Rich]

what?

romo had a terrible game against philly, and crayton and penalties cost us the giants game....they didnt do anything special or figure anything out.

Plus, the Giants dominated the game from a field position standpoint. Dallas had two extremely long drives because of awful field position. This helped cause a Dallas loss despite Dallas beating the G-Men in yards (336 vs. 230) and time of possession (36:30 vs. 23:30).

IMO, field position won the game for the G-Men more than anything. It's always a great equalizer.





YAKUZA

 

[LarryCanadian]

The way I see Roy Williams the WR is as a possible future replacement for TO. I think they can wait till the next offseason to go after him. He will cost bucks, but will be UFA and seems to want to play in Texas.

TO isn't gonna last forever, and Roy Williams is a proven guy and relatively young. I DO NOT want to go pay for another 30 year old WR though, rather play the young guys.

I'm all for going after the guy, just not personally willing to give up 2 1st round picks for him or even a 1st and 2nd.

I can wait one more season to take a run at him. We have a bunch of young players that we need to see this year. Stanback in particular. Hurd is still really young but seems to have a ceiling that he might have hit. Austin has speed/size, but routes/hands/quickness? Then we have Jefferson and the Welker type. Glenn is the wildcard. If he plays this year, then it was likely smart not to draft another guy who may or may not have been as good as our 3,4,5, 6 guys. If Glenn can't go, we might regret not taking a guy early, last year or this year. Still how much could/would they have contributed.

LarryCanadian

 

[sago1]

Sounds great to say we've got another year to see what these guys can do. Well TO will be 1 year older, so will Ellis, Flozel & Glenn. Our OL is also getting older. The window to win SBs is short & I'd sure be upset if we failed cause TO got hurt & rest of WR core couldn't do beans. Why pay big bucks to sign a franchise QB if you don't get him the WRs? Eagles didn't give McNabb any good WRs until they drafted TO which at least got them to the SB. Now they franatically trying sign one of the vet WRs we interested in. At least they drafted a WR although I can't remember who. I love Jerry and he mostly does a good job, but can't help thinking an really good/experienced GM would always be scouring other teams' rosters looking for the young WR we can use; just like NO did with Welker & Chargers did with Chambers.

 

[iceberg]

yeah stanbeck isnt going to help man just i think alot of people on here need to getg over it. he may add in and contribute a td or so like tony curtis did last year but thats about it.

i wish my crystal ball were so clear.

 

[Chuck 54]

Let's be realistic about Stanback. When was the last time a college QB turned into a marquee receiver? Then add on that Stanback barely played last year, so he's a year behind in development. All things considered, I thought he was a reasonable pick, and it's always nice to have a player who can be an emergency QB, but if Stanback makes the roster and gets more then ten catches this year, I'll be shocked.

Hines Ward??

 

[Chuck 54]

The way I see Roy Williams the WR is as a possible future replacement for TO. I think they can wait till the next offseason to go after him. He will cost bucks, but will be UFA and seems to want to play in Texas.

TO isn't gonna last forever, and Roy Williams is a proven guy and relatively young. I DO NOT want to go pay for another 30 year old WR though, rather play the young guys.

I'm all for going after the guy, just not personally willing to give up 2 1st round picks for him or even a 1st and 2nd.

I can wait one more season to take a run at him. We have a bunch of young players that we need to see this year. Stanback in particular. Hurd is still really young but seems to have a ceiling that he might have hit. Austin has speed/size, but routes/hands/quickness? Then we have Jefferson and the Welker type. Glenn is the wildcard. If he plays this year, then it was likely smart not to draft another guy who may or may not have been as good as our 3,4,5, 6 guys. If Glenn can't go, we might regret not taking a guy early, last year or this year. Still how much could/would they have contributed.

LarryCanadian

I"m not so sure Roy Williams is a proven guy...I have more questions about him than any other veteran WR who's been mentioned.

I'll be happy to go after him next offseason if we need him and if he has a big year in Detroit. So far, I'm not really all that impressed...he's certainly no T.O.

So far, he's only had one good year....last season, his stats weren't much better than Crayton's.

 

[BuckyG]

Last time was probably Anquan Boldin. He played QB and reciever off and on in college. But to be honest, most college QBs that make the transition to WR, don't have the physical tools Stanback has. They may have the speed, but are small like Antwan Randle El. Or maybe they have the size, but lack the speed.

Boldin doesn't really count, since he started 23 games at WR in college and had over a hundred catches and 20 TDs. I'm speaking specifically about guys who were primarily QBs in college who are making the transition to a position that is mostly new to them, guys like Matt Jones and Randle El. Even Patrick Crayton played more games as a WR in college than as a QB (though, oddly enough, he was moved to QB as a senior). If Stanback stays healthy, he might move past Hurd and Austin in the depth chart, and that's hardly a lock, but I think it's unlikely he'll see much playing time this year unless Glenn can't go. Don't get me wrong, I'm not down on the guy, I'm just playing the percentages.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I wonder if Jerra is thinking how well we did last year with T.O., Crayton and Witten?

And maybe he might take a gamble that Stanback blossoms soon and paying another WR is just a luxury?

Could it be that Jerra is gonna be kind to the cap and gamble on WR? Because Barber wants a lot of monies. And he needs to save his cash.

So, really, who needs another WR at this point?

I think the price is too high for a vet, so we are going to play with what we already have. If the price was right, Jerry would bring in RW in a heartbeat. Problem is Detroit is wanting the keys to fort knox, they reportedly wanted both 1st for RW before the draft if the rumors are to be believed.

*** that, Detroit can keep him this year and watch him walk out the door for nothing next year. Stupid arse Lions.

 

[Eskimo]

I think the price is too high for a vet, so we are going to play with what we already have. If the price was right, Jerry would bring in RW in a heartbeat. Problem is Detroit is wanting the keys to fort knox, they reportedly wanted both 1st for RW before the draft if the rumors are to be believed.

*** that, Detroit can keep him this year and watch him walk out the door for nothing next year. Stupid arse Lions.

They may franchise him for 1 year. If they can't get a long-term deal worked out players now often want a guarantee they won't be franchised next year before they sign the tender. Even if he doesn't get the guarantee, the next year his salary has to go up by a minimum of 20%. Given the salaries given to WRs we are probably talking about somewhere around $10M for 2009 and possibly $12M for 2010.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Are you really going to count on Bennett who hasn't played a down yet and Stanback who is at a new position and yet to do anything in the NFL? Come on homers. I am a long time Cowboy fan but Dallas needs to fill the WR slot soon if not now.

The problem is with who? Its great to say that they need another receiver, but who are you going to get?

All the receivers in the draft either sucked or were projects. There is a reason no WRs were drafted in the 1st round this year.

You want a vet? If the rumors are correct, Detroit offered us Roy for both our 1st rounders before the draft and we turned them down. You want Boldin? Commanders offered a 1st and a 3rd and they said no. You want the headcase Ocho Stinko, Commanders offered pair of 1st rounders and were turned down. So unless you want to drop a pair of ones, you can forget about getting a stud. Also, Detroit will franchise RW next year, so you are still looking at a pair of ones next year as well for him.

The issue here is NEED vs. AVAILABILITY.....they rarely meet at same time.

 

[ddh33]

One thing that Dallas might have working for them that helps in this regard is more of a system.

I don't know many people who would argue that Mike Furrey or Shaun McDonald are better players than Roy Williams, but Martz always had a system that would allow his offensive guys to beat the defense and score points.

In Dallas, TO is clearly Dallas' big-play, explosive threat. But he doesn't have to be the only one. I am convinced that Garrett can put together plans that use guys like Witten, Felix Jones, Bennett, and even some of the young guys here...

Remember, for all of the flack that guys like Crayton, Austin, and Hurd have taken, they all had some nice moments. If they can get a little more consistent (and maybe even some more opportunities), they might be able to make a pretty big impact. Like I said, guys like Furrey and McDonald have in Detroit, and Roy Williams11 is still no TO.

 

[MaineBoy]

Jerry is out of his frickin mind if he thinks he's going to get a championship here next year with the receivers on the current roster....Glenn is done despite Jerry's wishes and prayers (didn't Jerry say he thought we might get some big things out of Glenn in the Giants playoff game - though he could barely run in a straight line)...TO is still good but he seems to always get a hammy or turf toe or a high anke sprain - plus he is going to be a year older...The rest of our current WR's are projects or rookies or #3 receivers who run their mouths then choke when it matters (hi patrick)...We need a blue chipper or at the very least a solid veteran who can be reliable and steady and make a big catch or 2 during a playoff run when they have TO and Witten doubled...

 

[This is Our Year]

Our Wr core is fine with the talent on this team we could have won the SB last year. Our problem was the secondary now that appears to be fixed this team is loaded and primed for a HUGE season IMO.

 

[EndGame]

Hines Ward??

Antwan Randel El??

Not saying Randel El is an all star, but to be honest I'd be thrilled if Stanbeck turned out to be a high quality punt returner/3rd WR like him. El's only problem is that he was miscast as a #2 guy in Washington.

 

[SuspectCorner]

I'm in agreement. I think JJ is leaning more toward developing from within the organization than buying another high priced player.

And if nobody steps up big-time this season - Jerry'll bust a move next year.

 

[FolsomCowboy]

Have you been talking with Mr. Jones?

I dont think Gimmuh would ever be graced by Jerry Jone's presence