Who thinks that the NFL is becoming too weak?

[ABQCOWBOY]

Have you ever played football in your life?

Your statements are crazy. People could die with ST21 and RW31 headhunting for people.

They're players with families, not gladiators.

Obviously, I played in a time before your time. Thanks for the input. I'll give it it's just due and file it appropriatly.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

nothing to see here, keep moving...

OK, it's settled then. Drop by anytime.

 

[cowboys#1]

Obviously, I played in a time before your time. Thanks for the input. I'll give it it's just due and file it appropriatly.

what i think he was saying is that back in the day they had weak equipment so people think they were tougher but you need to realize that in todays nfl the players are bigger and stronger. they would kill the oldtimers. back in the day the olines only averaged around 270 LBS!!!!! nowadays they are clearly over 300lbs. the old tymers were beer drinking cigar smoking tough guys.i give them respect but i think if you put todays players in a fight with the old school guys , i think it would be no match.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

what i think he was saying is that back in the day they had weak equipment so people think they were tougher but you need to realize that in todays nfl the players are bigger and stronger. they would kill the oldtimers. back in the day the olines only averaged around 270 LBS!!!!! nowadays they are clearly over 300lbs. the old tymers were beer drinking cigar smoking tough guys.i give them respect but i think if you put todays players in a fight with the old school guys , i think it would be no match.

Your talking as if I am not aware of how the game has evolved. I imagine your young so I will not read anything into this other then the fact that you are young.

The game was different then as opposed to now. The players are bigger and stronger now but there bigger and stronger on both sides of the ball. The OLS may have been 270 then but the RBs were smaller as well. The DLs and the LBs are bigger today but so are all the other players. This is not about size of players as much as it is about limiting defenses. All is relative here. Players are better suited to take punishment today because the medical technoligy, the equipment and the training/diet is superior. This is not about who is better. This is about how the game is played. The rest is just clutter.

 

[cowboys#1]

Your talking as if I am not aware of how the game has evolved. I imagine your young so I will not read anything into this other then the fact that you are young.

The game was different then as opposed to now. The players are bigger and stronger now but there bigger and stronger on both sides of the ball. The OLS may have been 270 then but the RBs were smaller as well. The DLs and the LBs are bigger today but so are all the other players. This is not about size of players as much as it is about limiting defenses. All is relative here. Players are better suited to take punishment today because the medical technoligy, the equipment and the training/diet is superior. This is not about who is better. This is about how the game is played. The rest is just clutter.

hmmm thats my whole point....thanks for summing it up for me

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

hmmm thats my whole point....thanks for summing it up for me

Anytime. Just let me know when you need assistance saying whatever it is you think you might want to say.

 

[cowboys#1]

Anytime. Just let me know when you need assistance saying whatever it is you think you might want to say.

hey were still cowboy fans right?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

hey were still cowboy fans right?

Without a doubt. Tomorrow, there will be another thread that comes out and you will be at your keyboard thinking, damn this guys is over the damn hill and I will be thinking, young whippersnapper don't know #$%*.

I have faith in us CB1.

 

[DallasKnight]

I think the NFL is too watered down, and is more of a panty-waist league now due to so many rules favoring the Offense. Can't touch the recievers, can't touch the QB, blah blah blah. Let them play the game as it was played in the '70's.

Oh, BTW, Parity blows.

 

[juck]

They're fearless, toothless, and for the most part brainless.

Umm ,in case u havent noticed NFL players are not the sharpest tools in the shed either.

 

[jman]

I understand that they are the highest paid what does that have to do with playing the game of football? Don't touch the richest guy out there? These QB's for the most part are not little guys. Guys like McNabb and Culpepper are not brought down easy and if you don't go after them like any other player with the ball your going to get burned and defensive players who ease up find themselfs out of a job because they allowed it to happen. You put a uniform on your a football player your paid to play football and if they don't want to get hit then play another sport

You are still missing the point. It has nothing to do with playing the game or how tough a QB is ar whether they can take a hit or how big they are.

It's M-O-N-E-Y...get it? Look, Aikman got pounded...and pounded hard. He was as tough as they get. But what do you think Jerry Jones thought every time Aikman got laid out and had to come off the field with a concussion?

That's an investment about to lose it's worth.

I agree, McNabb and Culpepper are big guys...and they play like it. Not afraid. But that ain't the point.

I'll tell you what. You are the owner of an NFL franchise. And your brand new just drafted franchise QB is starting his first game. He goes back to pass and WHAM!...there goes his knees.

Now what? Hmmmm? What just happened to the $25 million you just paid him in signing bonus? Can you say "flush"? Whether he comes back...he may never be the same.

That's why the rules are there. Can't make it any clearer. You get it or you don't. The player, the game ain't got squat to do with the rules.

It's M-O-N-E-Y! Period.

 

[PacoReloaded]

I agree. I think they have gone overboard on the protection of the QB and Pass Interference calls

I couldn't have said it any better myself.

The next thing you know and they'll start banning pass rushes due to wanting to further protect the Qb.

 

[Doomsday101]

You are still missing the point. It has nothing to do with playing the game or how tough a QB is ar whether they can take a hit or how big they are.

It's M-O-N-E-Y...get it? Look, Aikman got pounded...and pounded hard. He was as tough as they get. But what do you think Jerry Jones thought every time Aikman got laid out and had to come off the field with a concussion?

That's an investment about to lose it's worth.

I agree, McNabb and Culpepper are big guys...and they play like it. Not afraid. But that ain't the point.

I'll tell you what. You are the owner of an NFL franchise. And your brand new just drafted franchise QB is starting his first game. He goes back to pass and WHAM!...there goes his knees.

Now what? Hmmmm? What just happened to the $25 million you just paid him in signing bonus? Can you say "flush"? Whether he comes back...he may never be the same.

That's why the rules are there. Can't make it any clearer. You get it or you don't. The player, the game ain't got squat to do with the rules.

It's M-O-N-E-Y! Period.

I got it I understand it is about money but I don't watch football because of the money I watch it to see a Football game and as long as the QB is on the field playing the game he should be treated like a football player. I'm not talking about having open season on QB, I think roughing the passer should be called but many of the rules changes go overboard and if your going to have QB's with great athletic ability out there who are very dangerouse running and throwing the ball then I expect Defensive players to plant these guys in the dirt that is their job and the rules are turning this into a complete Joke even many former QB's have said the same thing about the league going overboard regarding protecting the QB