Who thinks we can have 3 1000 yard receivers this year?

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Wolverine said:
IMO I think we have the talent for 3 1000 yard WRs. Key Glenn and Witten.

I read your post here and had to do a double take. :eek:

It wasn't that long ago that a day didn't go by where you didn't rip our wide receiving corps to pieces. But now, I see you praise Keyshawn and Glenn along with Witten. Just wondering why the change of heart?

I posted a link to a thread you started in April for reference. ;)

http://new.cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25736
 

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I definitely thing it is a possibility.

We nearly had 3 1,000 yards receivers last year. And I think that Bledsoe is an upgrade over Vinny.

And hopefully out defense will be spending less time on the field.
 

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Don't think so but I'd be estatic if the trio all reached 800+. That would mean tremendous balance. If this were to happen we win 11-12 games.
 

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Keyshawn has only been over 1000 yards receiving 4 times in his 9 year career, and most of those were barely over. (8,917 total yards)

Glenn has only been over 1000 yards 2 times in 9 years. (6,640 total yards)

They are both entering their 10th season in the NFL, along with a QB entering his 14th season.

I'm hoping for a consistant offense, based on the running game and controlled passing that looks for a big play now and then...maybe a shot at a playoff spot.

IF Glenn and KEyshawn both get 1000 yards, it will mean 1)they maintained amazing health despite having to carry the offense; 2)that Bledsoe had to throw the ball a heck of a lot, especially if you are thinking Witten gets 1000 too; and 3)both the running game and the defense will have been disappointments for us to throw that much.

No way on earth we have 3 1000 yard receivers.
 

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Dont see it happening this year, for what will in all likelihood be a run-oriented team on offense. Two 1,000 yard receivers would be pretty special.
T Glenn absolutely has to stay healthy.
 

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Absolutely not. Not with the Cowboys playing Billy Ball this year.
 

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that's a lot of passing offense. sounds like a lot of playing from behind.

if glenn can stay healthy, and dallas can maintain a good running game, - i'd think we'd only have one 1000-yd guy (hopefully glenn) and a couple around 750 (key and witten).

i'm hoping dallas can work the backs into the passing game a little more effectively this season. if they can, and glenn stays healthy - big if)... witten could still have a great season even though his rec #'s would drop.
 

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We haven't had a 1,000 yard receiver since Rocket did it in 1999 with 1,097. BP said he doesn't expect Drew to win games, just manage them. He will get his opportunity to throw, but it won't be 300 yard games. I can see one 1,000 yard receiver...maybe two. But, I don't see three. KJ would've done it last year, but the injury kept him from it.

For that to happen, Drew would have to throw for about 4,000 yards to include other receivers. That definitely won't happen. Not this year, anyway.
 

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Doubt it will happen; Key and Witten caught a lot of passes that would likely have been attempts for Glenn. It is a possiblity, though.
 

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Patrick Crayton
Keyshawn Johnson
Terry Glenn could be our 1000 yard Wide Receivers ... but like my man said up there it's too early to tell... just wait until season starts to really evaluate...
 

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Nice research DLK, but your one error is in the fact that you forgot to include Antonio Bryant's numbers.

Witten became a primary receiver, not simply because Glenn went down, but also because Morgan was not the 3rd receiver (especially not 2nd receiver) that Bryant was.

He still isn't.

I see our offense being more productive than the Patriots.

Brady threw for 3,692 yards and Dillon ran for 1635 yards.

The Patriots ran for nearly 33 attempts per game (32.75). Corey Dillon alone had about 21 rushes per game.

The largest difference I see between our offenses is that we have much better wide receivers, and a better tight end. And that Bradys receptions are more spread out. Keyshawn, Glenn, and Witten are going to be the primary receivers next year. We're mainly going to be playing out of two tight end formations.
 

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The majority of last year was spent chucking the ball because A.) Eddie George/Richie Anderson was our running attack B.) We were behind, often. This year's Dallas team is going to pound the rock. Between JJ, Barber, and A-Train (if he makes the team), there's probably going to be upward of 35-40 rushes a game. Parcells like running the ball, and he finally has the weapons here to do it.

Keshawn - 1050 yards
Witten - 900 yards
Glenn - 750 yards
 

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Parcells said he wants to run the ball 35 times a game, that does not leave a bunch of pass plays.

We are looking for around a 55% rush/45% pass ratio. That breaks down to roughly 28 pass attempts per game. Given Bledsoe's normal comp. %, you are looking at 16 completions per game.

16 spread out among Witten, Key, Glenn, #3 WR, RBs, and other TEs.

I can see 4 or 5 players having 400-800 yards each, but if we have 3 1,000 yard receivers it means the running game tanked, the defense struggled, and we are playing from behind and losing games.
 

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If you think about it, the only way that any one goes over a thousand would mean that someone got hurt. Last year is a good example of this with Glenn went down and Key and Witten finished around 1000 yds. Their numbers were a little inflated due to not really having any other options. We will pass the ball quite a bit, but running will be our bread & butter.
 
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Love to see it happening but likely not...I will say that witten will have somewhere in the vicinity of 1000-1200 yards though....as for keyshawn and glenn if they both stay healthy i would be happy with @1700-1800 combined from them provide that crayton and/or morgan step up now that they have a legitimate QB to get them the ball....at this point I don't care who finishes with what as long as the line protects bledsoe and JJ runs wild then drew should be good for @3300-3600 passing yards to whoever.
 

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Galian Beast said:
Nice research DLK, but your one error is in the fact that you forgot to include Antonio Bryant's numbers.

Witten became a primary receiver, not simply because Glenn went down, but also because Morgan was not the 3rd receiver (especially not 2nd receiver) that Bryant was.

He still isn't.

I see our offense being more productive than the Patriots.

Brady threw for 3,692 yards and Dillon ran for 1635 yards.

The Patriots ran for nearly 33 attempts per game (32.75). Corey Dillon alone had about 21 rushes per game.

The largest difference I see between our offenses is that we have much better wide receivers, and a better tight end. And that Bradys receptions are more spread out. Keyshawn, Glenn, and Witten are going to be the primary receivers next year. We're mainly going to be playing out of two tight end formations.

Bryant, Morgan, Crayton, Copper and Ward are among the "other WR/TE" group. Bryant's numbers after 5 games projected to 51/851, and he was playing when our running game was basically pathetic. Regardless, the third WR will hardly ever get as many looks as the #1 and #2 guys and the TE, at least with Parcells style. You're more likely to see 2 and 3 TE sets than you are 3 and 4 WR sets with him.

In our offense, passing proficiency doesn't mean offensive efficiency. In the Minnesota game we had 2 100 yard receivers. Loss. Pittsburgh, TG for 140. Loss. Green Bay, Witten 112. Loss. Philly, Witten 133. Loss. Seattle with KJ over 100 was the only game we won with a 100 yard game by a receiver, and the main reason he had that total was we were playing catch up.

As far as the Patriots go, they operate on a similiar offensive philosophy of grind it out on the ground, spread the passes around. They also ran the ball more than they threw it, and Brady passed for over 3,600 yards without having one receiver go over 1,000 yards last year.

No one is saying it's impossible, but it's unlikely even with teams with very explosive offenses. Minnesota led the league in passing last year. 1 1,000 yard receiver. Indy was the second best, and they did do it, with arguably the best QB/WR combination in the league. KC had 2 receivers over 1,000. St. Louis, 2 receivers. Green bay, 2 receivers. Philly, 1 receiver. Denver, 2 receivers. Oakland, 0 receivers over 1,000. Anyway, you get the idea. Those were the most prolific passing attacks in the league last year all with more than 4,000 yards passing, and only one at 3 receivers over 1,000 yards.

Now if you changed it to two receivers over 1,000, I'd say that was possible. Three? Nope. Our receivers will be fine as long as they stay healthy, but that's not Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Brandon Stokely we're trotting out there to take throws from Peyton Manning.
 

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DLK150 said:
Minnesota led the league in passing last year. 1 1,000 yard receiver. Indy was the second best, and they did do it, with arguably the best QB/WR combination in the league. KC had 2 receivers over 1,000. St. Louis, 2 receivers. Green bay, 2 receivers. Philly, 1 receiver. Denver, 2 receivers. Oakland, 0 receivers over 1,000. Anyway, you get the idea. Those were the most prolific passing attacks in the league last year all with more than 4,000 yards passing, and only one at 3 receivers over 1,000 yards.

TN also had 2 1,000 wr's, just to throw that in there. That was with the 2nd most attempts in the league, and a 60% completion ratio that Bledsoe has matched only 3 times in his career. TN's 3rd leading receiver had 329 yards.

But with all this spiffy data, who knows the last time a team had 3 1,000 yard receivers (other than the Colts last year)?
 

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Wayne and he has had over 950 yards 6 times in his 9 year career.

1996 was his rookie year, 97 was his sophomore year (still posted 963 yards).

2000 was his first year in Tampa Bay. Blame Shaun King.

In 2003 he sat 6 games.

In 2004 he had Vinny T, throwing to him. No running game, and no 2nd receiver to play off of him. Still was shy 19 yards, which he probably would have gotten had he not been injured in the 2nd period against NYG in the final game.

As for Terry Glenn...
in 97 he only played 9 games, in 98 only 10 games (792 yards), had 963 yards in 2000. Injured in 01, played in a west coast offense in 02, with quincy carter in 03...

If Terry stays healthy, has good support around him, and is in a system that works he has posted up numbers. He has the support, and the system. He just needs to stay healthy.

Wayne Motley, if think you think we're going to run every play. That is not the case. Look at Parcells statistical success. Keyshawn, Bledsoe, and Glenn are respectively the best players at their positions that Parcells has ever had. He is going to pass the ball, that is the reason why they are here. Bledsoe is the best quaterback either has had (brett favre doesn't count for terry, because as I said thats a west coast offense). Terry and Keyshawn are also the best receivers Bledsoe has ever had. And yes they are better than Moulds and Price.

Also look at the years in which Parcells ran more than 30 times per year with a 1000 yard rusher on the team. He still passed A LOT too.
 

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Every year Parcells had a 1000 yard rusher:

1985 New York Giants
Joe Morris rushes for 1336 yards.

The Giants ran 36 times per game. Phil Simms threw for 3829 yards.

1986 New York Giants
Joe Morris rushes for 1516 yards.

The Giants ran 36 times per game. Phil Simms threw for 3487 yards.

1988 New York Giants
Joe Morris rushes for 1083 yards.

The Giants ran 30 times per game. Giants threw for 3716 yards.

1989 New York Giants
Otis Anderson rushes for 1023 yards.

The Giants ran 34 times per game. Giants threw for 3355 yards.

1993 New England Patriots
Leonard Russell rushes for 1088 yards.

Patriots ran 31 times per game. Patriots threw for 3412 yards.

1995 New England Patriots
Curtis Martin rushes for 1487 yards.

Patriots ran 29 times per game. Patriots threw for 3789 yards.

1996 New England Patriots
Curtis Martin rushes for 1152 yards.

Patriots ran 26 times per game. Patriots threw for 4091 yards.

1997 New York Jets
Adrian Murrell rushes for 1086 yards.

Jets ran 27 times per game. Jets threw for 3555 yards.

1998 New York Jets
Curtis Martin rushes for 1287 yards.

Jets ran 31 times per game. Jets threw for 4032 yards.

1999 New York Jets
Curtis Martin rushes for 1464 yards.

Jets ran 30 times per game. Jets threw for 3001 yards.

And that is it.

Yeah we are going to run a lot this year, don't expect us not to pass a lot though. We got Bledsoe for a reason. We got Keyshawn and Glenn for a reason too.
 
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