Who thinks we can have 3 1000 yard receivers this year?

[Bungarian]

no you would be wrong

 

[Chuck 54]

Wayne and he has had over 950 yards 6 times in his 9 year career.

1996 was his rookie year, 97 was his sophomore year (still posted 963 yards).

2000 was his first year in Tampa Bay. Blame Shaun King.

In 2003 he sat 6 games.

In 2004 he had Vinny T, throwing to him. No running game, and no 2nd receiver to play off of him. Still was shy 19 yards, which he probably would have gotten had he not been injured in the 2nd period against NYG in the final game.

As for Terry Glenn...
in 97 he only played 9 games, in 98 only 10 games (792 yards), had 963 yards in 2000. Injured in 01, played in a west coast offense in 02, with quincy carter in 03...

If Terry stays healthy, has good support around him, and is in a system that works he has posted up numbers. He has the support, and the system. He just needs to stay healthy.

Wayne Motley, if think you think we're going to run every play. That is not the case. Look at Parcells statistical success. Keyshawn, Bledsoe, and Glenn are respectively the best players at their positions that Parcells has ever had. He is going to pass the ball, that is the reason why they are here. Bledsoe is the best quaterback either has had (brett favre doesn't count for terry, because as I said thats a west coast offense). Terry and Keyshawn are also the best receivers Bledsoe has ever had. And yes they are better than Moulds and Price.

Also look at the years in which Parcells ran more than 30 times per year with a 1000 yard rusher on the team. He still passed A LOT too.

I hope you're correct, but "hope" and "if" don't count for much. Glenn has played 9 years with a total of less than 7000 yards...he hasn't had a 1000 yard receiving year since 6 years ago. Say what you will, the odds having 3 1000 yard receivers with the guys we have is a real stretch...difference of opinion is all...I just don't see it happening.

 

[Doomsday101]

I hope you're correct, but "hope" and "if" don't count for much. Glenn has played 9 years with a total of less than 7000 yards...he hasn't had a 1000 yard receiving year since 6 years ago. Say what you will, the odds having 3 1000 yard receivers with the guys we have is a real stretch...difference of opinion is all...I just don't see it happening.

I agree and also do not see a scenario where we have 3 1,000 rec and a winning season. Yards don't mean much and frankly I don't see us running a colts or rams style offense. For Dallas to be successful I think we have to be balanced

 

[Galian Beast]

I see the fact that our players have been less than fortunante. Terry Glenn hasn't had much support in his career. Either from a number two receiver, or in terms of run support. He had Curtis Martin for a while, and had success when healthy, but even then no #2 receiver. In Green Bay it was simply a wrong match. Terry Glenn isn't right for the west coast offense, he still did decently.

Keyshawn too has not had support. Look who Keyshawn has had passing to him. Look at the receivers he has played with, and the running backs. He had great success in New York, because they had curtis martin, and decent qb play.

Bledsoe too has been a victom of bad support. He had a running game and two good receivers in 2002, and had a great year. That all kind of fell apart. I see us as being a better offense than the 2002 bills, but with a defense.

 

[Doomsday101]

I see the fact that our players have been less than fortunante. Terry Glenn hasn't had much support in his career. Either from a number two receiver, or in terms of run support. He had Curtis Martin for a while, and had success when healthy, but even then no #2 receiver. In Green Bay it was simply a wrong match. Terry Glenn isn't right for the west coast offense, he still did decently.

Keyshawn too has not had support. Look who Keyshawn has had passing to him. Look at the receivers he has played with, and the running backs. He had great success in New York, because they had curtis martin, and decent qb play.

Bledsoe too has been a victom of bad support. He had a running game and two good receivers in 2002, and had a great year. That all kind of fell apart. I see us as being a better offense than the 2002 bills, but with a defense.

I think each one (Glenn,Key and Witten) are capable of have a 1,000 yard season I just don't see Dallas turning into a pass happy offense unless we are constantly trailing in games

 

[Galian Beast]

Peyton Manning is the key in Indianapolis. His receiving corp isn't that great. Keyshawn and Glenn get it done without a manning type player. Look at brandon stokely in Baltimore.

Marvin Harrison BEFORE Peyton Manning.

And Reggie Wayne has blown up in the last couple years as Manning's play has improved. He has been getting quite a bit of Harrison's receptions.

Peyton Manning was 300 yards away from 5000, I'm not saying Bledsoe is going to throw for that many yards. But 3,500-4,000 I don't think is unrealistic.

The lowest Bledsoe threw with Parcells as head coach was 2494 in his rookie year, and then 95 when he threw 3,500 yards.

In 94 and 96 Parcells had him throwing for over 4000 yards. 4555 yards in 94.

The first time Bledsoe threw from under 3,500 yards after Parcells... was when Belicheck took over. He gets traded to Buffalo and has another 4000+ passing season.

He had 610 passing attempts. the next two years he had 471 and 450 attempts. Parcells always had Bledsoe throwing over 600 times after his rookie year. Which is 37-38 times per game.

He let both Vinny and Quincy throw for over 500 attempts...

I think you guys are a little confused when you see Parcells bring in a lot of running backs. That's because our running game has sucked the last two years, and it has limited our passing game.

I think you'll see us run for 30-35 carries per game.

 

[Doomsday101]

Peyton Manning is the key in Indianapolis. His receiving corp isn't that great. Keyshawn and Glenn get it done without a manning type player. Look at brandon stokely in Baltimore.

Marvin Harrison BEFORE Peyton Manning.

And Reggie Wayne has blown up in the last couple years as Manning's play has improved. He has been getting quite a bit of Harrison's receptions.

Peyton Manning was 300 yards away from 5000, I'm not saying Bledsoe is going to throw for that many yards. But 3,500-4,000 I don't think is unrealistic.

The lowest Bledsoe threw with Parcells as head coach was 2494 in his rookie year, and then 95 when he threw 3,500 yards.

In 94 and 96 Parcells had him throwing for over 4000 yards. 4555 yards in 94.

The first time Bledsoe threw from under 3,500 yards after Parcells... was when Belicheck took over. He gets traded to Buffalo and has another 4000+ passing season.

He had 610 passing attempts. the next two years he had 471 and 450 attempts. Parcells always had Bledsoe throwing over 600 times after his rookie year. Which is 37-38 times per game.

He let both Vinny and Quincy throw for over 500 attempts...

I think you guys are a little confused when you see Parcells bring in a lot of running backs. That's because our running game has sucked the last two years, and it has limited our passing game.

I think you'll see us run for 30-35 carries per game.

Vinny did throw that much but Bill had no intention of Dallas throwing as much as we did, we did it because we trailed most of the time last year and had no one at RB during Jones injury. I think Parcells would love to be able to do what Pitt did last year with their QB only throwing the ball only 295 times.

 

[Gordon]

Vinny and Quincy threw over 500 attempts because we had no running game, and we were playing from behind. I think we lost 7 games last year by 14+ points. When you're losing by 2-3 scores, you're not gonna run the ball. This year we should be competitive in pretty much every game (barring major injuries).

 

[Galian Beast]

The increased running game will result in more total plays per game, and so will the improved defense as long as it gets more turnovers.

 

[Galian Beast]

ummm in 2003 we were ranked 4th in overall rushing attempts.

Look at Parcells stats throughout his coaching career, and you'll realize were going to pass more than you think.

 

[Doomsday101]

ummm in 2003 we were ranked 4th in overall rushing attempts.

Look at Parcells stats throughout his coaching career, and you'll realize were going to pass more than you think.

I have watched Bill since he became a HC and yes we will pass but he will look for a balanced attack. Sorry we are not the Colts and we are not going to be throwing 400 some odd times unless we absolutly have to, we are not setup talent wise to run that style of offense.

 

[Gordon]

ummm in 2003 we were ranked 4th in overall rushing attempts.

That's completely irrelevant. I never said we didn't run the ball alot, I said we didn't run the ball well.

 

[blindzebra]

In 2 seasons we have ran 2066 offenensive plays.

Parcells said he wants to run the ball 35 times a game.

1033 plays - 560 rushes = 473 pass attempts.

Bledsoe completes 57%, thats 270 completions or 17 completions a game.

Bledsoe averages 11.5 yards per completion, that is 196 yards per game or 3136 for the season.

3100 yards does not make it likely to have 3 receivers get 1,000 each.

Jones will have more passes thrown his way this season, we like Barber as a receiver too.

We will run enough 2 TE to have Campbell getting some catches too.

There are too many options in a ball control balanced offense to have that kind of production from 3 receivers.

About the only way it could happen is if they all average around 18-20 yards per catch, because 270 catches does not split up among 6 or 7 players.

 

[Bobo]

Peyton Manning is the key in Indianapolis. His receiving corp isn't that great. Keyshawn and Glenn get it done without a manning type player.

No doubt Peyton is a big key to that O, but I'd say that's a great receiving core, and ours is just not as good. And our QB is definitely not as good. That group in Indy did something I think is pretty rare last year with 3 1,000 yard receivres (anyone know the last time it was done?....anyone?).

This group isn't as good as the Indy group, and we most likely won't throw as much as Indy, and most likely won't complete for as high a % as Indy does, and we most likely won't get as many yards per catch as those guys, and to continue my run on sentence, we most likely won't have 3 1,000 yard receivers