Who wants a running team NOW ??

[UnoDallas]

You sir are incorrect (IMO). The essence of "balance" is something Red needs to work harder on. We cannot be predictable. We have far too many weapons to be a predictable offense. If we're predictable it's on the OC... Period. How many times today did I say "here comes the delayed draw"? & there it was... If I can see it while sitting in a packed house of rabid fans, I am pretty sure the Skins DC was eating JG's plays for breakfast from across the field. Balance is the key... not slinging it all over the place and disregarding the strength that we do have in the run. I would also like to see Choice mixed in a little more but that's neither here nor there right now...

you sir are in correct IMO

Oh and these days, "balance" is a little overrated. Coming into today, Indy, NE, SD, AZ, and Dallas (among a few other playoff contenders) were among the least balanced teams in the league. So 5 out of 8 division leaders are arguably pass heavy.

what with the Choice love so he had three good games againest good Defensive teams late in the season

now they got Choice figured out

but he is MBIII with out Barbers speed - I know did I say speed MBII does not have any so there fore neither does Choice

 

[UnoDallas]

It's going to be hard to trade RW now that the deadline has passed...

I talking after this season

 

[alohawg]

IF Barber doesn't fumble then maybe that drive results in 6 and the whole complexion of the game is different. I think Garrett was being a smarta$$ and at times Romo was sulking and throwing balls high and/or behind receivers. Those two guys both had a very negative energy for a good 3 qtrs. and it seemed to rub off on the whole offense. The defense by and large played more than well enough to win. I don't know what Ware said to Romo but he snapped out of it long enough to lead the offense for a must score.
I think one thing is painfully obvious, Wade MUST go and in his place this team needs a coach that is no nonsense and 100% in charge that people are scared to death to p*ss off. My 2 cents.

 

[theebs]

I do.

I loved what I saw today. A little better execution from a handull of players and we would have had a big day.

All the running we did today, helped the team. It kept the defense off the field, it limited mistakes and it shortened the game.

Keep running it like that and improve the passing game and we will be rolling.

Barber's fumble kind of screwed things up early, but I am glad we still ran the ball after.

 

[T-RO]

We are 4-0 when Romo passes for 300 yards!!!

And our average per running attempt is higher when in the shotgun.

There is no debate unless you have a faith issue: clinging to outdated notions of running the ball--principles that are no longer valid in today's game.

 

[pjjrfan]

I'm an old school guy, and smash mouth football, run to daylight, and the run it down their throats has always been my philosophy. I realize that this is a new era, but while San Francisco was dominating with the west coast offense, a passing offense, it was the Cowboys with thier solid running game, Smith, and huge offensive line that brought all that to an end. Before that it was the Steelers with Franco and Blair, Staubach and Dorsett, and Lombardi's run to daylight schemes. I think Garrett is wrapped up with himself to call a solid diversifed game that features the running game. The Tools are there, he just doesn't utilize them. The Boy's have suffered from a "we don't know who we are " syndrome for the last 2 years and it all lies with Garrett, Phillips and JOnes. As long as they can't make up their minds as to what this teams is supposed to do to win we are going to be seeing a few good games followed by a few bad games and then a total collapse.

 

[Bleu Star]

you sir are in correct IMO

Oh and these days, "balance" is a little overrated. Coming into today, Indy, NE, SD, AZ, and Dallas (among a few other playoff contenders) were among the least balanced teams in the league. So 5 out of 8 division leaders are arguably pass heavy.

what with the Choice love so he had three good games againest good Defensive teams late in the season

now they got Choice figured out

but he is MBIII with out Barbers speed - I know did I say speed MBII does not have any so there fore neither does Choice

You can't be serious but I will just chalk this up to two differing opinions. Balance is exactly what this team needs to get through December and into the playoffs.

MB3 is faster than Choice? :laugh2: That right there tells me you're not watching closely enough. In the "quickness" and "burst" departments Choice owns Barber. They're both great backs though. (and both should be used in the offense)

 

[8FOR!3]

I talking after this season

u was talkin afta da saeason?

 

[UnoDallas]

Actually it's not the fault of the run game that we didn't win by more. The fact that Romo was off target on some passes, and his receivers were dropping passes, cost us taking advantage of some oppurtunities through out the game that were there because the running game was going so well.

We don't have to be heavy one way or the other. A nice, solid, effective balance will be just fine. And besides that your thought process can easily be trumped by last week. Last week we ran the ball 14 times, and threw it all over the place, and only scored 7 points as well and lost.

So the OP is totally wrong.

that because we only had a couple of minutes to throw the ball and not 60 minutes and if RW would catch the ball it would be a wonderfull start

so evidently you are wrong

 

[T-RO]

I'm an old school guy, ...Steelers with Franco and Blair, Staubach and Dorsett, and Lombardi's run to daylight schemes.

I have fond memories of the 70s, 80's and 90's too. But they are just memories. Champions now are the pass-centric teams like the Cardinals, Patriots, Colts, Saints Steelers, (they have been extremely pass heavy the past few years).

 

[UnoDallas]

You can't be serious but I will just chalk this up to two differing opinions. Balance is exactly what this team needs to get through December and into the playoffs.

MB3 is faster than Choice? :laugh2: That right there tells me you're not watching closely enough. In the "quickness" and "burst" departments Choice owns Barber. They're both great backs though. (and both should be used in the offense)

a read again

I said

Choice is MBIII with out Barbers speed - I know did I say speed MBII does not have any so there fore neither does Choice

 

[TellerMorrow34]

that because we only had a couple of minutes to throw the ball and not 60 minutes and if RW would catch the ball it would be a wonderfull start

so evidently you are wrong

What are you blabbering about? The fact is we had a handful of solid drives going that were killed by mistakes by this offense being things like some penalties and then bad passes, or dropped passes, in some key situations. The run game opened up some stuff for us and we didn't take advantage of it.

It was a much better chance then last weeks stupid game plan of "Throw, throw, throw, throw" all day long that did us nothing until in garbage time when we FINALLY got some throwing going in succession and they let us score a meaningless TD.

We have to have balance, not a heavy dose every week, from one way or another.

 

[pjjrfan]

I have fond memories of the 70s, 80's and 90's too. But they are just memories. Champions now are the pass-centric teams like the Cardinals, Patriots, Colts, Saints Steelers, (they have been extremely pass heavy the past few years).

The Patriots won their first few super bowls with a strong defense that relied on an offense that didn't make misakes. The colts for all of their pass happy offense won when they played a very inept offensive team in the Bears, and the Steelers Super Bowl win a couple of years back was won more by the running game. Last years Super bowl did involve two pass happy teams but the year before it was the Giants running game and defensive line that killed the Pats chances at a perfect season and the title.

 

[Bleu Star]

a read again

I said

Choice is MBIII with out Barbers speed - I know did I say speed MBII does not have any so there fore neither does Choice

Read my response again. Choice is quicker than Barber through the hole and has the burst to take it a long way once he sees daylight. Barber gets caught up running in traction once he sees the hole. He's great for 8-10 yard scampers. Choice will take it 50. MB3 is a great back... but we need to mix in some Choice. I'm not lobbying for one versus the other.. just saying that a mixture will keep defenses off balance and our RBs fresh from start to finish.

 

[UnoDallas]

What are you blabbering about? The fact is we had a handful of solid drives going that were killed by mistakes by this offense being things like some penalties and then bad passes, or dropped passes, in some key situations. The run game opened up some stuff for us and we didn't take advantage of it.

It was a much better chance then last weeks stupid game plan of "Throw, throw, throw, throw" all day long that did us nothing until in garbage time when we FINALLY got some throwing going in succession and they let us score a meaningless TD.

We have to have balance, not a heavy dose every week, from one way or another.

what are you babblking about

The run game opened up some stuff for us and we didn't take advantage of it

Amazing like what ?

Throw, throw, throw, throw" all day long that did us nothing until in garbage time when we FINALLY got some throwing going in succession and they let us score a meaningless TD.


like Romo forcing the ball to RW to make him happy


We have to have balance, not a heavy dose every week, from one way or another.

I believe I stated that much

 

[UnoDallas]

Read my response again. Choice is quicker than Barber through the hole and has the burst to take it a long way once he sees daylight. Barber gets caught up running in traction once he sees the hole. He's great for 8-10 yard scampers. Choice will take it 50. MB3 is a great back... but we need to mix in some Choice. I'm not lobbying for one versus the other.. just saying that a mixture will keep defenses off balance and our RBs fresh from start to finish.

You can't be serious but I will just chalk this up to two differing opinions. Balance is exactly what this team needs to get through December and into the playoffs

exaclty

true enuf on the part about Choice

 

[tyke1doe]

The offense was efficient and productive when they ran the ball. If not for the fumble and missed FG, we have probably 10 points at the half, and can dictate play in the second half with a lead.

There are times when the offense is more explosive when passing, but it's not more productive and leads to mistakes. Running the ball minimizes those and keeps the other team's offense off the field and it wears on a defense so that in the 4th quarter you can put the game away.

I think a lot of posters don't realize the value of running the ball, even if it isn't very effective (which it was today).

Good post.

Running the ball is an attitude also. Don't think we're going to do it just one time and develop a season rhyme. We need to consistently run the ball and establish an identity as a smash-mouth football team. We can still pass, but our identity needs to change, especially since we have the backs to run the ball.

 

[Vintage]

Its about efficiency per possession.

The more points per possession you as an offense earn (as in, the more efficient you are), the more possessions you want in a given game, to create greater difference in score between you and your opponent.

If the team you are going against is a more efficient offense, it makes sense to run the ball more, control the clock, and try to steal a victory.

 

[Biggems]

I want a running game. The fact is, we were moving the ball down the field with the running game, aside from the fumble. It was only when we would go to the pass that we started to struggle. Romo was high or behind most of the game.

I am not saying we should run it the whole game. But, also, dont pass it the whole game either. We are not the Pats. We do not have that type of OL.

We need to be more balanced. If we run 60 plays.....somewhere between 25-35 and 30-30 is where we need to be. This way the opposing defenses cant simply key on one aspect of our offense.

Also, when we establish the run, then we should utilize play action better.....as well as misdirection, reverses, and flea flickers. Also, do some roll outs with Romo, as it seems to help him a lot.

 

[UnoDallas]

I want a running game. The fact is, we were moving the ball down the field with the running game, aside from the fumble. It was only when we would go to the pass that we started to struggle. Romo was high or behind most of the game.

I am not saying we should run it the whole game. But, also, dont pass it the whole game either. We are not the Pats. We do not have that type of OL.

We need to be more balanced. If we run 60 plays.....somewhere between 25-35 and 30-30 is where we need to be. This way the opposing defenses cant simply key on one aspect of our offense.

Also, when we establish the run, then we should utilize play action better.....as well as misdirection, reverses, and flea flickers. Also, do some roll outs with Romo, as it seems to help him a lot.

yea but please score some points with the runninh game