Who was the better QB: Romo vs Rivers

[OmerV]

Rivers....he's had nothing to work with his whole career. Tough SOB If they switched places Romo would have been broken in half by year 4.

Ladanian Tomlinson, Antonio Gates, Vincent Jackson, Keenan Allen, Malcolm Brown and Melvin Gordon were nothing to work with? Is that really notably worse than Romo had?

 

[maryquality]

Last week it was romo vs dak. This week romo vs rivers. Next week romo vs ??? Let the man enjoy his time in the booth and links.

Totally agree!! Do we really need more "who was better than Romo" threads?

 

[mrmojo]

Romo needs his own Zone.........

 

[CowboysRule]

Rivers body of work is just better. Part of what makes a player better is their availability.
It's not like Romo in his "short" career was a shooting start like Terrell Davis. To me even when Romo was playing he was at or below Rivers level, in terms of TD's completions, yards, etc
Rivers did make a championship game. He played on a torn Achilles back in 2007. He did beat Manning in a wild card game.
Going back to the 2004 Draft class I would take Rivers over Eli but not before Big Ben. The sad part is that Rivers/ Chargers ~ Romo/Cowboys. The Chargers are our AFC equivalent.
Injuries, bad luck, bad coaching, new and innovative ways to lose a big game in spectacular fashion. The irony is amazing yet comedic.

Ok, let me be a little more specific. Rivers, the 4th overall pick in the draft, is not more impressive than Romo. Romo has a better completion percentage, higher YPA, higher TD percentage, .1% higher INT percentage, higher QB rating, and I'm probably leaving some things out. Rivers has 3 more comebacks and game winning drives than Romo but has played in about 70 more games. Rivers also was playing with Tomlinson at the start of his career where Romo had stars like Felix Jones...Rivers played with a torn ACL and went on to go 19/37 for 211 yards, no TD's and 2 INT's. Really helped his team there. Romo finished a game with a punctured lung and won. He also played with a broken back.

Romo should've been MVP in 2014, he outplayed Rodgers completely.

So yeah, great post.

 

[kskboys]

Ladanian Tomlinson, Antonio Gates, Vincent Jackson, Keenan Allen, Malcolm Brown and Melvin Gordon were nothing to work with? Is that really notably worse than Romo had?

Chargers w/ Rivers have the distinction of having both the #1 O and the #1 D in the NFL and did not make the playoffs. That shows that at least some of this is on the org. I think a ton of it is.

Way back when, SD would most likely have made a super bowl w/ Rivers, but both Gates and LT were out, and they lost the battle of the FG's to NE.

 

[dckid]

Ok, let me be a little more specific. Rivers, the 4th overall pick in the draft, is not more impressive than Romo. Romo has a better completion percentage, higher YPA, higher TD percentage, .1% higher INT percentage, higher QB rating, and I'm probably leaving some things out. Rivers has 3 more comebacks and game winning drives than Romo but has played in about 70 more games. Rivers also was playing with Tomlinson at the start of his career where Romo had stars like Felix Jones...Rivers played with a torn ACL and went on to go 19/37 for 211 yards, no TD's and 2 INT's. Really helped his team there. Romo finished a game with a punctured lung and won. He also played with a broken back.

Romo should've been MVP in 2014, he outplayed Rodgers completely.

So yeah, great post.

If you go back to my original post, it all still holds up. Rivers has had a better career than Romo. Rivers is obviously diminished at this point in his career. I think you could go to all the GM's in the league and the majority of them would choose Rivers over Romo. First of all neither one of them have won squat so this is a meaningless discussion big picture wise.
Again, in the grad scheme of things I hate defending or supporting Romo. It's all a big waste of time. This organization that we love has been mediocre for the past 25 years. I don't want to fall into the Stockholm Romo syndrome. He was a good qb who put up good stats in a pass happy era. All Cowboy fans remember Romo for the spectacular misses vs the makes, and I am sure SD/LAL fans feel the same way about Rivers. The key difference being that Rivers is the best thing since Dan Fouts. They have also never won a SB. Cowboys fans i believe should not pine for the Romo days. I grew up on the 90's Cowboys and that was a team worth remembering.

 

[percyhoward]

Surprised this thread is still going.

all attempts
Romo 65% 7.9 ypa 97.0
Rivers 64% 7.8 ypa 94.6

late & close
Romo 65% 8.5 ypa 101.7
Rivers 58% 7.0 ypa 75.9

 

[Hadenough]

Talking out your ***

Romo has one of the highest 4th quarter ratings in the NFL

Rivers however



“Romo made too many mistakes....give me the most mistake prone franchise QB of all time”

I believe Rivers owned the NFC east. He is finally slipping though.

 

[Whyjerry]

Romo by a hair. Rivers is underestimated in my eyes. With better support he could have won.

 

[kskboys]

I agree w/ the poster who said they are basically the same QB. I'd give the nod to Rivers due to longevity, but honestly they're not all that different.

 

[CowboysRule]

If you go back to my original post, it all still holds up. Rivers has had a better career than Romo. Rivers is obviously diminished at this point in his career. I think you could go to all the GM's in the league and the majority of them would choose Rivers over Romo. First of all neither one of them have won squat so this is a meaningless discussion big picture wise.
Again, in the grad scheme of things I hate defending or supporting Romo. It's all a big waste of time. This organization that we love has been mediocre for the past 25 years. I don't want to fall into the Stockholm Romo syndrome. He was a good qb who put up good stats in a pass happy era. All Cowboy fans remember Romo for the spectacular misses vs the makes, and I am sure SD/LAL fans feel the same way about Rivers. The key difference being that Rivers is the best thing since Dan Fouts. They have also never won a SB. Cowboys fans i believe should not pine for the Romo days. I grew up on the 90's Cowboys and that was a team worth remembering.

Nothing you have said supports your original argument whereas I have posted stats showing that you are just wrong. You haven't asked the question to many GM's in the league so your statement holds no water. Also, you definitely do not speak for all Cowboy fans so please don't try. In the grand scheme of things, it's meaningless to discuss anything on this board. None of us have any input into what happens on the team, but it can be fun. Romo was a great QB for this franchise and if he had had better coaching and an actual defense, we'd be talking about if he gets in the HOF his first year of eligibility or not.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Both were tiered similarly throughout their career. Who would you say was the better QB

Very very similar careers and QB's. I know this is a biased Cowboys forum, but I take Romo over Rivers. Both guys are great.

 

[DFWJC]

Rivers was the better QB in the 1st quarter of a game. From the 2nd quarter on, and especially late in close games, it was definitely Romo.

So, Romo.

Late & Close 2004-18
4th qtr/OT, one-score game
1 Wilson 101.8
2 Romo 100.5
3 Rodgers 99.4
4 Manning 95.6
5 Luck 94.4

25 Rivers 78.2

 

[mattjames2010]

I believe Rivers owned the NFC east. He is finally slipping though.

That wasn’t your argument....

 

[KJJ]

It’s pretty clear who the majority are going to pick on this board. Rivers is a borderline Hall of Fame player based on his career numbers. He has a 5-6 playoff record compared to a 2-4 playoff record for Romo. Rivers has played in a championship game so he’s gotten his team farther. Rivers will go down as the better QB based on his career numbers and playoff record. Honestly I think Romo was a better overall QB but QBs are ultimately judged by their playoff record and performances which gives Rivers the edge.

 

[percyhoward]

If you just look at the overall numbers, there's no real difference.

But do understand that we're comparing one of the best clutch QB of his era with probably the worst clutch QB of note.

 

[starfan1]

One will end up in the ROH in Arlington the other in HOF in Canton but sadly the one that will get shorted was in my opinion better but they have similar stories

 

[KJJ]

If you just look at the overall numbers, there's no real difference.

But do understand that we're comparing one of the best clutch QB of his era with probably the worst clutch QB of note.

Only the Romo lovers will consider him clutch. He had far too many untimely turnovers. Neither Rivers or Romo will go down as clutch. You got to get it done in the critical games to be considered clutch.

 

[dckid]

Nothing you have said supports your original argument whereas I have posted stats showing that you are just wrong. You haven't asked the question to many GM's in the league so your statement holds no water. Also, you definitely do not speak for all Cowboy fans so please don't try. In the grand scheme of things, it's meaningless to discuss anything on this board. None of us have any input into what happens on the team, but it can be fun. Romo was a great QB for this franchise and if he had had better coaching and an actual defense, we'd be talking about if he gets in the HOF his first year of eligibility or not.

Nothing you have said supports your original argument whereas I have posted stats showing that you are just wrong. You haven't asked the question to many GM's in the league so your statement holds no water. Also, you definitely do not speak for all Cowboy fans so please don't try. In the grand scheme of things, it's meaningless to discuss anything on this board. None of us have any input into what happens on the team, but it can be fun. Romo was a great QB for this franchise and if he had had better coaching and an actual defense, we'd be talking about if he gets in the HOF his first year of eligibility or not.

You started this whole deep dive by saying my response was one of the worst posts ever. I believe I speak for more Cowboys fans than you do. Romo is not a HOF caliber QB. To me you lose a lot of credibility by making that statement.
Since you are such a numbers guy... Rivers has 122 career wins which is 9th all time and Romo has 78 which is tied for 47th. So where do that leave you now? Numbers don't tell the whole story.
This is a dumb discussion. Rivers was and is a better QB than Romo, and by me making that statement I am not knocking Romo. I loved Romo as the Cowboy QB. No one defended him more when he was playing.
I don't miss the Romo era, I don't want to go through revisionist history. I am also not saying Dak is better or Romo was better. Romo had his place in Cowboy history. Jerry loved him like a son, he kept this franchise at slightly above .500 which allowed Jerry to keep doing business as usual. Two playoff wins, four losses.

 

[percyhoward]

Only the Romo lovers will consider him clutch.

I didn't name any names though.