Who was the better QB: Romo vs Rivers

[gjkoeppen]

This should be a head to head comparison, not a team vs team record debate.

JMO

Since reading and/or understanding seems to not be a strong point for you I'll try explaining it another way and hopefully you'll get it. As I stated both QB's hold their teams passing records so I compared what the importance of holding those records by comparing what each team did. If one team (Cowboys) has a good record or history and a QB (Romo) holds the records of all the QB's that produced that history holding that team's records would mean more than if the other QB's (Rivers) team's history and the QB's that lead those teams is not anywhere as good that would mean holding that teams records wouldn't be as impressive.

I only compared teams to validate each QB's holding his team's passing records.
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[mattjames2010]

Not true. For QB pro bowls actual mean alot since only 1 QB makes first team all-pro per year which is insane since it has the highest longevity of any position but it has way less all-pro then other positions (you can have 3 quarterbacks hog all the all-pro selections for a near 2 decade span, there's way more than 3 hall worthy QBs in 2 decades). Hell just look at his draft class alone, it produced 4 franchise QBs with over 50 years of combined starts and not a single one of them made a single all-pro

I'm not saying I agree or it's fair but reality is Canton will NOT keep an 8x pro bowler at one of the 3 tier 1 positions (Left Tackle, Defensive End, and QB) out of Canton.

Rivers has absolutely no accolades that matter in the modern NFL. Passing numbers are inflated, has very little success in the post-season despite the longevity, has no all-pro, no MVPs...

He’s not getting in on pro bowls. He has done nothing of significance without getting a ring to enter the HOF.

The only argument for him will be longevity - and that’s going to be a long shot

 

[gjkoeppen]

1. Romo never made first team all-pro. He made 2nd team behind a career journeyman in Carson Palmer...... (yeah all-pro is a great measuring stick).

2. Uh what ? Rivers made the NFL top 100 list 8 times (No 26 in 2011, No. 61 in 2012, No. 34 in 2014, No. 43 in 2015, No. 46 in 2016, No. 73 in 2017 and No. 56 in 2018). That's twice as many selections as Romo's

Agreed that there's a cutoff but Rivers surpasses the cutoff where Romo doesn't. Having 4 more pro bowls (Rivers 8 versus Tonys 4) and 2x the amount of top 100s is gigantic

Personal thoughts aside Rivers is 100% going to Canton, this isn't an opinion is a fact

I plead guilty for the error on Rivers and Top 100. The website i was looking at for both, it only mentioned Romo's Top 100 and not Rivers.

I'm not sure what you're referring to with cutoff but again Rivers will here the same thing Romo has heard from the talking heads on TV that with no Super Bowl wins or even appearances which most or all of them say seems to be the measuring stick of QB's now a days, to say Rivers is a lock for Canton is guess work at best now. Lastly even if it was 2nd team All Pro it's still one more time than Rivers.
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[ABQCOWBOY]

Since reading and/or understanding seems to not be a strong point for you I'll try explaining it another way and hopefully you'll get it. As I stated both QB's hold their teams passing records so I compared what the importance of holding those records by comparing what each team did. If one team (Cowboys) has a good record or history and a QB (Romo) holds the records of all the QB's that produced that history holding that team's records would mean more than if the other QB's (Rivers) team's history and the QB's that lead those teams is not anywhere as good that would mean holding that teams records wouldn't be as impressive.

I only compared teams to validate each QB's holding his team's passing records.
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Save it. If you can't be respectful in your posting, you are not worth my time, nor any response. Feel free to ignore me, I will do my best not to involve myself with you.

 

[Tussinman]

He has done nothing of significance without getting a ring to enter the HOF.

I personally agree with you but i'm also a realist and can put my own personal beliefs aside.

There is literally no way in hell Canton isn't going to enshrine an 8 time pro bowler and 8 time nfl top 100 player at a tier 1 position. I mean hell there's already committee voters NOW that address him as future hall of famer.....

I personally think he's in the Romo/McNabb hall of very good but I'm not looking at it from what I think. I would literally bet my entire savings account that he makes Canton within a decade.

He's basically the frank gore of Quarterbacks (was very good for a long enough time to where they are basically forced to put him him).

 

[Runwildboys]

This should be a head to head comparison, not a team vs team record debate.

JMO

The quality of the other players on the teams must be factored in, otherwise it's not apples to apples.

You could say ABQ can't jump over the stream in his back yard, but RWB can jump over the one in his yard, so RWB must be a better jumper. Without knowing ABQ's stream is twice as wide, it's not a true comparison.

 

[Runwildboys]

Since reading and/or understanding seems to not be a strong point for you I'll try explaining it another way and hopefully you'll get it. As I stated both QB's hold their teams passing records so I compared what the importance of holding those records by comparing what each team did. If one team (Cowboys) has a good record or history and a QB (Romo) holds the records of all the QB's that produced that history holding that team's records would mean more than if the other QB's (Rivers) team's history and the QB's that lead those teams is not anywhere as good that would mean holding that teams records wouldn't be as impressive.

I only compared teams to validate each QB's holding his team's passing records.
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For someone who gets so easily offended when someone insults him, you sure are quick to do it to others without provocation.

 

[75boyz]

Both were tiered similarly throughout their career. Who would you say was the better QB

I know Romo had Glenn, TO and Witten on his ‘07 offensive team and Murray, Witten and Dez on his 14 team.

But Rivers at one time if I’m not mistaken for a couple years even...(Somebody can correct me if I’m wrong)
Had Tomlinson, Michael Burner Turner,Darren Sproles as runners and Vincent Jackson and Antonio Gates as pass catchers(I forget the other WR, not as highly acclaimed but an excellent complimentary piece as well)all together in their prime for at least a couple years.
I think Romo could have done something in the NFC with a group like this. To counter, I guess you could say Rivers, at the time was competing against the likes of Ben and his crew in Pitt, Brady of course and Manning as well, all in their primes with excellent players/teams of that era.
I’ll always take Romo, but I’m biased. Admittedly so.

 

[Melonfeud]

B-4 I hit the " submit vote" clicker, I changed it to #9,,,

 

[Blue&Silver]

No, we wouldn’t have. Rivers is awful in the clutch and would crap the bed in the Super Bowl worse than Manning. He would need an amazing defense to win a Super Bowl....like Manning. And Rivers is no Peyton Manning.

Dude is overrated. Availability =\= greatness

He's close to being top 5 all time in touchdowns. That's an incredible achievement. He's earned his stripes throwing nearly 400 touchdowns and 57,000 yards of passing. That's hardly overrated. If he ever had a good team around him it's my belief he would've had a lot of Super Bowls. Normally first ballot Hall of Famer's are not usually considered overrated.

 

[mattjames2010]

He's close to being top 5 all time in touchdowns. That's an incredible achievement. He's earned his stripes throwing nearly 400 touchdowns and 57,000 yards of passing. That's hardly overrated. If he ever had a good team around him it's my belief he would've had a lot of Super Bowls.normally first ballot Hall of Famer's are usually considered overrated.

It is 100% overrated. TDs is a longevity stat in a passing era, same as yards

He has no all-pros, no MVP, no ring, has 61 losses when trailing by 7 or less in 4th quarter...

Marino and Brees are impressive based on TDs + passing - for their era, they dominated these categories and broke records

Rivers hasn’t done crap. He is a ring of honor candidate.

 

[JIMMYBUFFETT]

Antonio is better than Phillip.

 

[dragon_mikal]

He's close to being top 5 all time in touchdowns. That's an incredible achievement. He's earned his stripes throwing nearly 400 touchdowns and 57,000 yards of passing. That's hardly overrated. If he ever had a good team around him it's my belief he would've had a lot of Super Bowls. Normally first ballot Hall of Famer's are not usually considered overrated.

Rivers had plenty of good teams around him.

 

[cowboy_ron]

Rivers didn't have to deal with Garrett.

 

[mattjames2010]

Rivers didn't have to deal with Garrett.

Norm Turner was basically the Garrett of the AFC.

He had a revolving door of coaches after that.

 

[csirl]

Tough choice between the two. Surprised that Rivers is getting so few votes.

 

[DC4L_0420]

Easy call.

LOL Legendary.

 

[Hadenough]

Super Bowl MVP

Philip Rivers 0
Tony Romo 0
Pro Bowl

Philip Rivers 6 (2006, 2009-2011, 2013, 2018)

Tony Romo 4 (2006-2007, 2009, 2014)

First Team All-Pro

Philip Rivers 0
Tony Romo 0
Second Team All-Pro

Philip Rivers 0
Tony Romo 1 (2014)

NFL Passing Touchdown Leader

Philip Rivers 1 (2008)

Tony Romo 0
NFL Passing Yards Leader

Philip Rivers 1 (2010)

Tony Romo 0
Completion Percentage Leader

Philip Rivers 1 (2013)

Tony Romo 0
QB Rating Leader

Philip Rivers 1 (2008)

Tony Romo 1 (2014)

NFL Rookie of the Year

Philip Rivers No
Tony Romo No
Comeback Player of the Year

Philip Rivers 1 (2013)

Tony Romo 0

 

[mattjames2010]

Also, can we talk about Rivers’ garbage throwing mechanics?

 

[Whirlwin]

Whirlwind this doesn't sound like you to guess on a person and his personal life and friends that you've never talk to ever.
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It's common knowledge. Everyone knows Whitten was his BFF and he definitely became a better quarterback after he was married. It just seemed to calm him down the testosterone LOL