Who would be your #1 RB?

if the organization believes that felix jones is a big play threat every time he touches the ball -- and that's what the organization has said from day one -- then you give him the ball early and often.
 
masomenos85;3137088 said:
Thomas Jones' first year as a starter was in 2004, he's had one 16 start season since then.

Steven Jackson has been injured every year but one since he's been drafted.

Turner is in only his second year as a starter and is already hurt.

Gore has had one 16 start season in his career.

Perhaps Barber isn't as good as those guys, but that's not why I brought their names up. You said that Barber got injured and that was evidence that he couldn't handle a full load, yet there are plenty of other successful full time RBs in the NFL who also have yearly injuries. I also wasn't aware that speed is what defined how good a RB was. Something tells me I may be able to think of an example of a RB who had great success without being blazingly fast...the name escapes me though.

I never said being fast defines how good a runningback is. I was just pointing out that mb3 is a snail compared to those guys and most rbs. I'm pretty sure everyone of those rbs has had a 1,000 yard season too. this team is just wasting choice with a snail in mb3 who doesn't run like he used to cause the amount of carries is wearing him down.
 
Choice starting, Felix lost of carries and receptions, Barber finishing games if we are ahead.
 
I still think Barber is a starter, but he has to go back to what made him a player. He needs to be agressive and attack the defence instead of trying to bounce everything.

if he does that, he will be back to the Barber we know. If not, give the role to Felix, who reminds me alot of Marshall Faulk.
 
Its uncanny how everyone always, i mean always loves the backup. Choice, Bennett, whatever.
 
I think we should run the wildcat with Choice every play. Choice is so good just snap it to him every play and bypass the middle man.
 
es22;3137124 said:
I still think Barber is a starter, but he has to go back to what made him a player. He needs to be agressive and attack the defence instead of trying to bounce everything.

if he does that, he will be back to the Barber we know. If not, give the role to Felix, who reminds me alot of Marshall Faulk.

Barber can't go back to being that back because he has already been worn out - look for his numbers to continue to slide. The Cowboys FO has finally noticed this year and will do something about it before the 2011 season.

We are always a season late to discover what everyone in the league has already figured out.

Just once, I'd like our FO to be ahead of the competition.
 
JPostSam;3137092 said:
if the organization believes that felix jones is a big play threat every time he touches the ball -- and that's what the organization has said from day one -- then you give him the ball early and often.

Which is why I don't understand why he doesn't get the ball more. If they REALLY believe that, then they aren't doing what they should be doing...which is getting the ball into your biggest threats more often.

I say go with the guy that is tearing it up and DON'T get away from the run if it is working. If the run is working, with WHOEVER it is, then SPRINKLE in the run.

I love it when the Time Of Possession is in our control....except for last week....man the defense stunk it up.
 
masomenos85;3137004 said:
Take the numbers down to 16 carries a game, 4 carries per quarter, and the stats stay almost the same...

22 carries, 95 yards
27 carries, 127 yards, 2 TD
19 carries, 96 yards, 1 TD
18 carries, 103 yards, 1 TD
22 carries, 110 yards, 1 TD
18 carries, 63 yards, 1 TD
28 carries, 142 yards, 1 TD
23 carries, 84 yards
18 carries, 100 yards, 1 TD
25 carries, 71 yards
19 carries, 54 yards
24 carries, 114 yards, 1 TD
19 carries, 59 yards
18 carries, 124 yards, 1 TD
20 carries, 99 yards
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16 carries, 83 yards
16 carries, 56 yards, 1 TD
17 carries, 81 yards
16 carries, 80 yards, 2 TD
17 carries, 45 yards

Total

402 carries, 1786 yards, 4.44 YPC, 13 TD


You'd have to be foolish to argue that anything less than 16 carries is still a "full load".

Let's just looks at this year....by week

MBIII:
Carries Yards TD's YPC.
14 79 1 5.6
18 124 2 6.9
- - - -
11 41 1 3.7
15 53 0 3.5
- - - -
14 47 0 0
14 53 1 3.8
12 50 0 4.2
5 26 0 5.2
20 99 0 5.0
14 61 0 4.4
15 36 0 2.4

152 669 4 4.4

JF:
6 22 0 3.7
7 96 1 13.7
8 94 0 11.8
- - - -
- - - -
- - - -
8 37 0 4.6
8 39 0 4.9
4 10 0 2.5
3 6 0 2.0
10 49 0 4.9
7 68 1 9.7
6 6 0 1.0

67 427 2 6.4

TC
2 10 0 5.0
2 8 0 4.0
18 82 1 4.6
14 33 0 2.4
8 92 1 11.5
- - - -
- - - -
4 11 0 2.8
3 13 1 4.3
3 13 0 4.3
1 1 0 1.0
3 67 0 22.3
2 3 0 1.5

60 333 3 5.6


OK...at first glance, it would seem tht FJ and TC just aren't even getting at CHANCE to be the RB to see what they can do....I do however remember the thanksgiving game where FJ and TC just blew up the Raiders and MBIII just couldn't seem to do anything compared to the other two...if there were any game that could show the difference, that was it. FJ and TC had a total of 10 carries for 135 yards while MBIII had 14 carries for 61 yards....MBIII just has no speed.

Secondly, if FJ had as many carries as MBIII had, he would already be close to 1000 yards with 973. TC would have 852. Of course, this is just a stats exercise..........

Thirdly, if the brass really believe that JF is a weapon and they need to get the ball into his hands because he can take it to the house any time he touches the ball, then they are OBVIOUSLY failing in this regard. He has run the ball with 10 carries....NEVER any more.

Yes, there is more to being a RB than just running the ball such as blocking, going out for passes, etc.....but again, this is a stats exercise....

Finally, it is obvious to everybody and their mother that MBIII just is NOT the same type of guy that he was previously. I still believe that Bill Parcells had him pegged correctly in that he was a RB that was best served as a short yardage 3rd down, end of game type back.

To not see this is just beyond me.

Receiving:
TC 15 catches 132 yards 0TD's and an avg. of 8.8 per catch.
FJ 10 catches 77 yards 0TD's and an avg. of 7.7 per catch.
MBIII 18 catches 144 yards 0TD's and an avg. of 8.0 per catch.

In my mind, MBIII has a place on this team, but it isn't getting the bulk of the carries....it is being relegated back to what he used to be. He isn't even the best back in the receiving department either.

Sorry, but he's just been passed by when it comes to being a starter. JF and TC can get it done if they'd be given a CHANCE to do it. TC proved it last year going up against some of the best defenses in the league.

There is no shame in that. I hope that MBIII tears it up whenever he has the ball in his hand, but teams have already figured out that all you have to do is hit him low to avoid the stiff-arm and him lowering his head....take his legs out (duh!). No speed to evade anybody. I still like it when he shows he can run somebody over and keep going, but I'm NOT impressed as some are by seeing him try to run a guy over and get a two-yard run....it's no different that JJ running into the back of an o-lineman.....two yards is still two yards.

Having said that....whoever is the starter is the starter and I'll hope he tears it up.

But GET YOUR PLAYMAKERS ON THE FIELD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE JG!
 
I'm glad you brought receiving stats to the table because it's not just about running the ball. With that said Tchoice is the best Rb on the team barber is fumbling too much.
 
DFWJC;3136876 said:
Chris Johnson :)....oh, that's right, we passed on him.
Do you really think if we had drafted CJ he'd be the CJ we know in Tenn? Or like Felix he'd be limited by this coaching staff?
 
Blast From The Past;3137420 said:
Do you really think if we had drafted CJ he'd be the CJ we know in Tenn? Or like Felix he'd be limited by this coaching staff?

that's what cracks me up about speculation. if they do it in one place it's how they'll perform everywhere.

just amazing to me how short sighted many minds really are.
 
Austinrocks;3137096 said:
Choice starting, Felix lost of carries and receptions, Barber finishing games if we are ahead.

This is exactly how i would want it to be.
 

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