Who ya gonna pick

I'm actually thinking Dallas is leaning towards Ginn Jr.

he can start off returning kicks and would be tutored by Glenn for a couple of years

normally I would say Meachem, but I think Tennessee grabs him before us
 
Silverstar;1459218 said:
Not desperate enough to draft in the 1st round Hostile.....sorry.
Sorry for what? It's opinions man, don't apologize, stand your ground.

I think WR is the clear cut #1 need on this team. There is a possiblity, though remote, that our top 3 WRs will NOT be on the team next year. If even 2 of them aren't it still is the biggest need.

By far...
 
Bob Sacamano;1459224 said:
I'm actually thinking Dallas is leaning towards Ginn Jr.

he can start off returning kicks and would be tutored by Glenn for a couple of years

normally I would say Meachem, but I think Tennessee grabs him before us
Pacman...gone...CB in round 1.
 
Hostile;1459228 said:
Sorry for what? It's opinions man, don't apologize, stand your ground.

I think WR is the clear cut #12 need on this team. There is a possiblity, though remote, that our top 3 WRs will NOT be on the team next year. If even 2 of them aren't it still is the biggest need.

By far...
Being in their 30s, there's a very real possibility both of them won't be on the team this year.

Heck, if someone wanted to bet, I'd put money on at least one of them succumbing to a major injury this year.
 
theogt;1459237 said:
Being in their 30s, there's a very real possibility both of them won't be on the team this year.

Heck, if someone wanted to bet, I'd put money on at least one of them succumbing to a major injury this year.
I like my money too much to be suckered into that.
 
Hostile;1459228 said:
Sorry for what? It's opinions man, don't apologize, stand your ground.

I think WR is the clear cut #12 need on this team. There is a possiblity, though remote, that our top 3 WRs will NOT be on the team next year. If even 2 of them aren't it still is the biggest need.

By far...


What in the world makes you think that?

Glenn may or may not be here in 2008, but I think Owens will finish his 3 year deal. Sounds like you might have other issues with Owens and that's fine, but as long as he does his job (catch TD's) he's gonna stay a Cowboy like it or not.

You claim WR is our biggest need and it is clearly not!

What happens if Ferguson goes down?
What happens if Newman or Henry goes down?

Do you trust Montavious Stanley to shut down the running game in the middle or a 35 year old Aaron Glenn covering a jump ball in the endzone?

I like Glenn and all, but he's no Darrell Green if you get my drift. If Owens or Glenn go down, at least we have a solid WR in Crayton.


BTW I am standing my ground....sorry we don't agree that's all.
 
i agree with silverstar
if our wr goes down... we have crayton... and even sam hurd had a cuple big catches last season.

i wouldn't want a db to go down... that would further make us vulnerable to the passing game.
 
Silverstar;1459261 said:
What in the world makes you think that?

Glenn may or may not be here in 2008, but I think Owens will finish his 3 year deal. Sounds like you might have other issues with Owens and that's fine, but as long as he does his job (catch TD's) he's gonna stay a Cowboy like it or not.

You claim WR is our biggest need and it is clearly not!

What happens if Ferguson goes down?
What happens if Newman or Henry goes down?

Do you trust Montavious Stanley to shut down the running game in the middle or a 35 year old Aaron Glenn covering a jump ball in the endzone?

I like Glenn and all, but he's no Darrell Green if you get my drift. If Owens or Glenn go down, at least we have a solid WR in Crayton.


BTW I am standing my ground....sorry we don't agree that's all.
Glenn is going to be 33 when the season starts.

Owens will be 34 by the end of the season.

Crayton signed a 1 year tender offer, meaning if a long term deal is not worked out he will be an unrestricted Free Agent.

Injuries could happen. Retirements could happen. Free agency could happen. Cap saving moves could happen. A meltdown could happen. If he keeps dropping the ball jerry could say enough.

It is silly to turn a blind eye to these possibilities. We need options at WR in the worst way.

I believe if you look closely at my Mock drafts you'll see where I've addressed CB and NT early, so Aaron Glenn and Mont Stanley are not fallbacks.

I simply say there is too much uncertainty about our top 3 WR positions not to address it right away.
 
Meachem (sp?), if he's there at 22 is who I think the Cowboys will pick.

But my feeling is the Cowboys will try to trade down.

(My personal choice at 22 would be Nelson followed by Spencer, however, though it may not be the most pressing need.)
 
I'd be happy with Meachem, Bowe, or Jarrett.

Meachem would be my first choice though.
 
Hostile;1459439 said:
Glenn is going to be 33 when the season starts.

Owens will be 34 by the end of the season.

Well, our CB's aren't exactly young pups anymore either.

Newman turns 29 in September and is in the last year of his contract. Henry turns 31 in November and Glenn turns 35 in July. There's a better chance of Owens, T.Glenn and Crayton all sticking around on offense next year, than Newman, Henry and A.Glenn on defense IMO.

Crayton signed a 1 year tender offer, meaning if a long term deal is not worked out he will be an unrestricted Free Agent.

If is the key word and which player do you think will be cheaper to sign next year....Crayton or Newman?

Heck, even Romo might be cheaper to sign long term than Newman. :rolleyes:

Injuries could happen. Retirements could happen. Free agency could happen. Cap saving moves could happen. A meltdown could happen. If he keeps dropping the ball jerry could say enough.

It is silly to turn a blind eye to these possibilities. We need options at WR in the worst way.

Whose turning a blind eye here?

These same possibilities can happen at CB too ya know. The only difference is that we have better depth at WR than at CB right now.


I believe if you look closely at my Mock drafts you'll see where I've addressed CB and NT early, so Aaron Glenn and Mont Stanley are not fallbacks.

I simply say there is too much uncertainty about our top 3 WR positions not to address it right away.

Our secondary has just as much uncertainty and that's not even pointing out the obvious, like the December meltdown. Our defense (primarily secondary) got torched in December and ended up ranked 24th in the league.

However, the offense scored 425 points last year and Jerry just got done beefing up our OL. We have two 1,000 yard WR's, a 1,000 yard rusher, a Pro Bowl TE, LT and C. Yet, you think our offense is in dire straits and we need to draft a WR in the 1st round or we're doomed.

Well, I don't share this bleak outlook of our offense and WR corps.


BTW, have you even taken a look at the WR class of 2008....OMG!
The WR's next year are gonna be HUGE.

Here's a quick peek...

JR. James Hardy 6-7 215 - Indiana
SR. Marcus Monk 6-6 222 - Arkansas
JR. Mario Urrutia 6-6 220 - Lousville
SR. Limas Sweed 6-5 220 - Texas
SR. Todd Blythe 6-5 210 - Iowa St.
SR. Ernie Wheelwright 6-5 215 - Minnesota
JR. Greg Carr 6-5 205 - Florida St.
JR. Amarri Jackson 6-5 200 - South Florida
SR. Adarius Bowman 6-4 215 - Oklahoma St.
JR. Malcolm Kelly 6-4 215 - Oklahoma
JR. Jaison Williams 6-4 240 - Oregon
SR. Lance Leggett 6-3 184 - Miami
SR. D.J. Hall 6-3 190 - Alabama
SR. Adrian Arrington 6-3 190 - Michigan
JR. Patrick Carter 6-3 215 - Lousville
SR. Terrell Golden 6-3 215 - Penn St.
SR. Jordy Nelson 6-3 210 - Kansas St.
JR. Brian Robiskie 6-3 200 - Ohio St.
SR. A.J. Bryant 6-2 185 - Georgia
SR. Cameron Colvin 6-2 195 - Oregon
SR. Andre Caldwell 6-1 200 - Florida
SR. Early Doucet 6-0 205 - LSU
JR. DeSean Jackson 6-0 178 - California
JR. Mario Manningham 6-0 185 - Michigan
SR. Dorien Bryant 5-10 178 - Purdue
 
Meachem, Houston, Branch or Willis depending on who is there...tell me who is there and I can narrow it down further...

biggest needs on this team in no particular order are...WR/CB/NT/ILB
 
I tend to agree with the "defensive back crowd" on this one. I think - given current circumstances - that it's a higher priority.

Given Jones' own comments, the Cowboys feel they have potential starters in Hurd and Austin - I don't recall any similar comments regarding a young cornerback. And while the team may still have hope for Pat Watkins, I doubt they're completely comfortable at that position either.

And let's not forget than Ken Hamlin signed a one-year deal with the hopes of a big payday next year. There's a good chance he won't be around next year.

And given Henry's age, injury history and performance level, is it out of the question to think the team may be looking for a younger, cheaper, better alternative? Not in my opinion.

Put me down for a cornerback or free safety in the first round - if I had to pick one name - Florida Safety Reggie Nelson. If he's gone before then, make it Texas CB Aaron Ross.
 
Definitely one of the guys in my sig...not wearing a dark jersey.​
 
jackrussell;1459691 said:
I'm still on the fence about it...

Looking at the picture of Ginn I think you may have a clue to what side of the fence your leaning towards. :laugh2: Right now my gut feeling is Ginn but because of the moves made by Dallas and recent drafts I think the Cowboys are in a situations where they have many options in this draft.
 
Silverstar;1459626 said:
Well, our CB's aren't exactly young pups anymore either.

Newman turns 29 in September and is in the last year of his contract. Henry turns 31 in November and Glenn turns 35 in July. There's a better chance of Owens, T.Glenn and Crayton all sticking around on offense next year, than Newman, Henry and A.Glenn on defense IMO.
Our CBs are still younger than our WRs and Newman isn't going to be going anywhere yet. We're talking 3 positions versus two. On top of this I haven't said ignore CB, I've simply said WR is a greater need. There is a difference. You've said nothing to disprove this.

If is the key word and which player do you think will be cheaper to sign next year....Crayton or Newman?
Crayton, but what does that have to do with anything. His talent level isn't anywhere near on par with Newman's. Hell his potential doesn't even come close to what Newman is already worth.

Heck, even Romo might be cheaper to sign long term than Newman. :rolleyes:
Are you saying we need to let Newman leave when his contract is up? I have no idea where you are going with this.

Whose turning a blind eye here?
You were.

These same possibilities can happen at CB too ya know. The only difference is that we have better depth at WR than at CB right now.
I don't agree. I think they are equal. That makes age of starters and potential of backups a higher consideration.

Our secondary has just as much uncertainty and that's not even pointing out the obvious, like the December meltdown. Our defense (primarily secondary) got torched in December and ended up ranked 24th in the league.
A stronger pass rush can help the coverage. Nothing can create better pass catching than to have better WRs. You could have the most accurate QB in history and if the WR can't catch, can't separate, or can't absorb contact you won't move the chains.

However, the offense scored 425 points last year and Jerry just got done beefing up our OL. We have two 1,000 yard WR's, a 1,000 yard rusher, a Pro Bowl TE, LT and C. Yet, you think our offense is in dire straits and we need to draft a WR in the 1st round or we're doomed.
I never said the offense is in dire straits. I said that given the age of our starting WRs it is an area to address. I'm not under any delusions that we're set at this position for years to come. At CB with Newman I believe we are. I believe Henry can have a bounce back year.

Well, I don't share this bleak outlook of our offense and WR corps.
What bleak outlook? I don't see where I'm bleak.

BTW, have you even taken a look at the WR class of 2008....OMG!
The WR's next year are gonna be HUGE.

Here's a quick peek...

JR. James Hardy 6-7 215 - Indiana
SR. Marcus Monk 6-6 222 - Arkansas
JR. Mario Urrutia 6-6 220 - Lousville
SR. Limas Sweed 6-5 220 - Texas
SR. Todd Blythe 6-5 210 - Iowa St.
SR. Ernie Wheelwright 6-5 215 - Minnesota
JR. Greg Carr 6-5 205 - Florida St.
JR. Amarri Jackson 6-5 200 - South Florida
SR. Adarius Bowman 6-4 215 - Oklahoma St.
JR. Malcolm Kelly 6-4 215 - Oklahoma
JR. Jaison Williams 6-4 240 - Oregon
SR. Lance Leggett 6-3 184 - Miami
SR. D.J. Hall 6-3 190 - Alabama
SR. Adrian Arrington 6-3 190 - Michigan
JR. Patrick Carter 6-3 215 - Lousville
SR. Terrell Golden 6-3 215 - Penn St.
SR. Jordy Nelson 6-3 210 - Kansas St.
JR. Brian Robiskie 6-3 200 - Ohio St.
SR. A.J. Bryant 6-2 185 - Georgia
SR. Cameron Colvin 6-2 195 - Oregon
SR. Andre Caldwell 6-1 200 - Florida
SR. Early Doucet 6-0 205 - LSU
JR. DeSean Jackson 6-0 178 - California
JR. Mario Manningham 6-0 185 - Michigan
SR. Dorien Bryant 5-10 178 - Purdue
Great, all that and a sandwich means at least I won't go hungry for one meal. I'll refrain from telling you about the great CBs available next year. That is irrelevant, as is this.
 
Doomsday101;1459695 said:
Looking at the picture of Ginn I think you may have a clue to what side of the fence your leaning towards. :laugh2: Right now my gut feeling is Ginn but because of the moves made by Dallas and recent drafts I think the Cowboys are in a situations where they have many options in this draft.

Agreed. I'm kind of taking a shine to Revis....don't know if it's the player...or cushioning the blow of yet another defensive pick.
 
I really like the potential of Ginn= what he can do right away at KR and PR is something to think about. If he is available then grab him. If he is gone, then one of these CBs: Revis, Houston, Ross, McCauley. If all of them are gone then Bowe, Meacham. I think we have FS covered for this year with Hamlin and it gives Watkins another year to figure it all out. I don't want Nelson due to serious questions about his smarts(or lack thereof).
 

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