Who's better, Dak or Wentz?

[GimmeTheBall!]

Better yet, who's had better coaching? No question Wentz, but his stats are still trailing Daks'

Wentz has more promise but Dak has been durable and stats (for now) dont lie.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I was more in the mood for a thread comparing Garrett to Belichick. But this is good too.

Garrett vs. Belichick?
Are you some kind of comedian, old boy?

 

[tyke1doe]

Talent? Wentz
Availability? Dak

 

[sunalsorises]

The difference is Philly is paying Wentz based on what he can still become and Dallas will have to pay Dak based on what he has already done. The answer to this question won’t be answered until a few seasons into their contracts.

 

[America's Cowboy]

LAST TWO SEASONS
First 3 Quarters
Prescott
504 of 770 65.5% 5213 yd 6.8 ypa 31 td 13 int 91.2
Wentz
415 of 644 64.4% 5018 yd 7.8 ypa 42 td 10 int 103.5

Late & Close
Prescott
105 of 159 66.0% 1536 yd 9.7 ypa 11 td 3 int 112.6
Wentz
77 of 114 67.5% 804 yd 7.1 ypa 7 td 1 int 104.6

15+yard targets
as a percentage of all passes
First 3 Quarters
Prescott 13.5% (86.4)
Wentz 19.7% (105.3)

Late & Close
Prescott 21.4% (125.6)
Wentz 14.9% (88.5)


LAST SEASON
First 3 Quarters
Prescott (7 games w/o Cooper)
83 of 132 62.9% 913 yd 6.9 ypa 7 td 3 int 91.5
Prescott (11 games w/Cooper)
202 of 286 70.6% 2115 yd 7.4 ypa 11 td 3 int 100.2
Wentz (all 11 games)
202 of 290 69.7% 2327 yd 8.0 ypa 14 td 5 int 102.5

Late & Close
Prescott (7 games w/o Cooper)
21 of 36 58.3% 288 yd 8.0 ypa 0 td 0 int 84.0
Prescott (11 games w/Cooper)
47 of 65 72.3% 646 yd 9.9 ypa 5 td 1 int 123.0
Wentz (all 11 games)
52 of 72 72.2% 544 yd 7.6 ypa 5 td 0 int 116.9

15+yard targets
as a percentage of all passes
First 3 Quarters
Prescott (7 games w/o Cooper) 16.7% (99.6)
Prescott (11 games w/Cooper) 10.1% (96.6)
Wentz (all 11 games) 17.2% (92.5)

Late & Close
Prescott (7 games w/o Cooper) 27.8% (95.8)
Prescott (11 games w/Cooper) 24.6% (104.2)
Wentz (all 11 games) 13.9% (87.5)

• Wentz has been the better QB over the first 3 quarters of the game, although Dak closed almost all of this gap since the arrival of Cooper.
  
• Wentz is much more aggressive than Dak in the first 3 quarters of games, and Cooper has had no effect on this at all.
  
• Wentz becomes more conservative late in close games, while Dak turns it loose and has had great success with or without Cooper.

All of these stats are fine... except for 1 thing...

Wentz has had a SB proven team around him all of this time.

Dak hasn't.

Cowboys are still rebuilding.

But even last year with no more Dez, no Witten, no TWill, half of the Oline either injured/ill or rebuilt, the rest of the WR crew full of JAGS except for a talented but very green rookie, and a crew full of inexperienced TEs, along with a team where the Oline Coach was replaced halfway through the season for a big reason, and Linehan holding the Offense back with his antiquated playcalling..., Dak was able to lead the team to a sweep of Wentz and his eagles, win the NFC East Division and win 1 game in the playoffs while coming 1 possession short of potentially winning a divisional 2nd round playoff game with the opportunity to make it to the NFC Conference Championship Game.

This year, with so many key additions and the Oline fully stocked, plus very good backups backing up our starters and a new & very creative O-Coordinator, Dak and this Offense is going to light it up and go much further in the playoffs this year. Just wait and watch...

All of these Wentz stats are going to be meaningless. Dak is going to tear it up.

 

[Birdgang]

Most people have pointed out the truth. As it stands now Dak has been the better QB. Screw the stats .... as its a team game and the team plays a huge roll in just about everything. But Dak staying healthy and available is THE MOST important thing. Even Ray Charles can see that Wentz has all the talent in the world .....But its no good if you never get to use it. Daks proven he can win games, even when the games are going bad ... he has show to stick them out and come back in the 4th. The grass is always greener on the other side. If its not obvious Im a diehard Birds fan born and raised in Philly.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Most people have pointed out the truth. As it stands now Dak has been the better QB. Screw the stats .... as its a team game and the team plays a huge roll in just about everything. But Dak staying healthy and available is THE MOST important thing. Even Ray Charles can see that Wentz has all the talent in the world .....But its no good if you never get to use it. Daks proven he can win games, even when the games are going bad ... he has show to stick them out and come back in the 4th. The grass is always greener on the other side. If its not obvious Im a diehard Birds fan born and raised in Philly.

*Salute* *Respect*

 

[Crazed Liotta Eyes]

Most people have pointed out the truth. As it stands now Dak has been the better QB. Screw the stats .... as its a team game and the team plays a huge roll in just about everything. But Dak staying healthy and available is THE MOST important thing. Even Ray Charles can see that Wentz has all the talent in the world .....But its no good if you never get to use it. Daks proven he can win games, even when the games are going bad ... he has show to stick them out and come back in the 4th. The grass is always greener on the other side. If its not obvious Im a diehard Birds fan born and raised in Philly.

It pains me to give an Eagles fan a like but you have shown an abnormal rational for a fan of that scumbag franchise. No offense but yeah.

 

[Birdgang]

It pains me to give an Eagles fan a like but you have shown an abnormal rational for a fan of that scumbag franchise. No offense but yeah.

Believe it or not ... but there are plenty of us. The problem is that its always the nail that sticks out to be noticed and gets hammered.

 

[Big D]

Most people have pointed out the truth. As it stands now Dak has been the better QB. Screw the stats .... as its a team game and the team plays a huge roll in just about everything. But Dak staying healthy and available is THE MOST important thing. Even Ray Charles can see that Wentz has all the talent in the world .....But its no good if you never get to use it. Daks proven he can win games, even when the games are going bad ... he has show to stick them out and come back in the 4th. The grass is always greener on the other side. If its not obvious Im a diehard Birds fan born and raised in Philly.

Welcome! we have a few philly fans here in @Risen Star and @PAPPYDOG that should make you feel right at home!

 

[Walker]

Dak and its not even close.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

Believe it or not ... but there are plenty of us. The problem is that its always the nail that sticks out to be noticed and gets hammered.

Lol every fanbase has their nuts.
We got our own nuts on this site (won't name names).
Please stick around. Hopefully our two teams have two exciting slugfests like last year again.
I really want to see both teams face off as close to full strength as possible, y'alls great defense and our great offensive line included, as I personally see two fairly evenly matched teams talent-wise.

 

[supermanonsteroids]

Paxton Lynch is better than both of them. And Conner Cook is better than Paxton Lynch. That's the truth or my name ain't BullsEye Back.

i see what you did there.

 

[Jeffkills]

Those two NFC crowns were $$$....

Still Dak’s more durable, and I think he’s gonna take the next step with Kellen at the helm...

They’re saying he’s throwing better than he has in OTA’s..

 

[DHCBF66]

Garrett vs. Belichick?
Are you some kind of comedian, old boy?

Everyone knows Belechick is a putz.....Garrett hands down.....

 

[supermanonsteroids]

Best indicator is recent play

See Dak's 1st 8 games of the season compared to his last 11 including playoffs:

QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/A TD Int Att Yds Y/A Long TD Sacks YdsL Fumb FumL
89.9 18.6 29.6 63.0 207.5 7.0 1.3 0.6 5.3 30.9 5.7 12.0 0.3 3.5 19.1 0.9 0.5
95.3 23.0 33.2 67.6 251.1 7.3 1.4 0.5 4.6 10.0 1.9 7.4 0.7 2.9 20.5 0.5 0.2

This is with Linehan.

Compare that to Wentz's 11 games last season:

QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/A TD Int Att Yds Y/A Long TD Sacks YdsL Fumb FumL
95.3 23.0 33.2 67.6 251.1 7.3 1.4 0.5 4.6 10.0 1.9 7.4 0.7 2.9 20.5 0.5 0.2 Dak
102.1 25.4 36.5 69.6 279.5 7.7 1.9 0.6 3.1 8.5 2.9 5.2 0.0 2.8 18.4 0.8 0.5 Wentz


Wentz is clearly the better qb. but can he stay healthy like dak and help the team in the playoffs?

 

[jay94]

Wentz it's not close at this point.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Everyone knows Belechick is a putz.....Garrett hands down.....

You are the devil, yes? You bring us false tiddings and heralds.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Welcome! we have a few philly fans here in @Risen Star and @PAPPYDOG that should make you feel right at home!

As its evident your a Dak fan first and foremost and couldn't care less about Team Cowboy what will you do when Dak ends up on some other teams bench....go Bucs-Bengals baby right?

P.S. How much is Dak's PR dept paying you man ....common the truth will set you free bud!

 

[supermanonsteroids]

Accidently factored in the probowl. Here are the correct stats. Can't find the edit button.

See Dak's 1st 8 games of the season compared to his last 11 including playoffs:

QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/A TD Int Att Yds Y/A Long TD Sacks YdsL Fumb FumL
100.6 24.9 35.4 70.8 271.7 7.6 1.4 0.4 4.6 10.0 1.9 7.4 0.7 3.0 21.2 0.5 0.2
89.9 18.6 29.6 63.0 207.5 7.0 1.3 0.6 5.3 30.9 5.7 12.0 0.3 3.5 19.1 0.9 0.5

This is with Linehan.

Compare that to Wentz's 11 games last season:

QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/A TD Int Att Yds Y/A Long TD Sacks YdsL Fumb FumL
100.6 24.9 35.4 70.8 271.7 7.6 1.4 0.4 4.6 10.0 1.9 7.4 0.7 3.0 21.2 0.5 0.2 Dak
102.1 25.4 36.5 69.6 279.5 7.7 1.9 0.6 3.1 8.5 2.9 5.2 0.0 2.8 18.4 0.8 0.5 Wentz

Now thats much better.

Wentz is SLIGHTLY the better qb. but can he stay healthy like dak and help the team in the playoffs?