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Coast2Coast27;3149593 said:Im going with Peyton Manning, Kobi Bryant and Lance armstrong .
whos that?
Coast2Coast27;3149593 said:Im going with Peyton Manning, Kobi Bryant and Lance armstrong .
Coast2Coast27;3149931 said:No I wouldnt say it takes much hand eye cordination to hit a ball that doesnt move.
Danny White;3150553 said:Tiger
Roger Federer
Michael Phelps
Lance Armstrong
MC KAos;3151253 said:I think u add bolt to this list and pick any three, u can't go wrong
Temo;3151491 said:I don't see how no one includes Bolt on any of these lists. I mean, he's only the fastest human being ever.
Coast2Coast27;3149652 said:Well then bottom line is we have a disagreement in what makes an athlete and athlete. To me it's not all about how fast you can run, or how high you can jump . It's alot about hand eye cordination, awareness, precision, balance, mental toughness as well . Now to say it takes great athletic ability to hit a stationary white ball into a hole is insane, it doesnt ... but to say to throw a 45 yard pass on the money, while avoiding 300 lb lineman , and 240 lb line backers coming after you does.
My point is... that playing NFL QB takes way more athletic skill then it does for A Golfer to hit a white ball on a beautiful california day.
There is no comparsion of the two.
CATCH17;3150512 said:Emmitt Smith, Shawn Michaels, Ken Griffey Jr.
Danny White;3151751 said:The reason I didn't (and wouldn't) add Bolt is that he hasn't had the longevity that the others have.
Those four have done amazing things for a prolonged period of time. And if you're talking "all decade" you need to be talking about people who have put up great performances for more than just one year.
Heck, next year we could see someone faster than Bolt and he'd be yesterday's news.
Those four have been at the top of their games for a ridiculously long period of time.
Temo;3152748 said:For one, sprinters have a naturally quick ascent and a shorter stay at the top than the other guys. Seems ridiculous to penalize him for that. And you included Phelps, who hasn't been around that long either, only a couple years longer than Bolt.
Temo;3152748 said:For one, sprinters have a naturally quick ascent and a shorter stay at the top than the other guys. Seems ridiculous to penalize him for that. And you included Phelps, who hasn't been around that long either, only a couple years longer than Bolt.
For two, It took about a decade for someone to break Michael Johnson's records in the 100m and 200m, and Bolt OBLITERATED them.
Bolt revolutionized a sport that no one thought COULD be revolutionized. It's the oldest sport in existence yet he showed a different way to excel at it. He broke the old prototype of what a sprinter had to be and set a altogether new standard for speed.
I don't know, I just don't understand it personally. To me at least he had the most amazing athletic achievement that I've ever seen-- though maybe if I was around when Roger Bannister broke the 4:00 minute mile barrier I'd say differently.
Temo;3164037 said:And Bolt is 23, ABQ.
You guys remember Phelps because he's American. The first time I saw Bolt and remember him was when in 2002, when he was 15 and competing in the world junior championships. I just remember him towering over everyone else (he was already like 6'6" at that time) and I remember thinking "that guy should go play basketball or something, he'll never make it as a sprinter with that body". Well, he proved me and everyone else wrong.
He didn't do the 100m at that time because everyone thought he had the wrong physiology for it, and he disappointed in 2004 because of a leg injury, which is no new thing for sprinters. If healthy, he was a lock for the 200m gold. Swimmers have it much easier on their bodies in terms of hard impact and can stave off injury.
Finally, the number of Gold things is irrellevant. It's far more impressive to win the 3x golds that Bolt won in 2008 than Phelp's 8, IMO. I mean, if runners were silly enough to do a "backwards 100m and 200m", then sure Bolt could have won a few more gold.
ABQCOWBOY;3164866 said:It has nothing at all to do with Phelps being American. At 15 years of age, Phelps was not competing in the Jr. Games. He was competing in the Olympic games. At 15, he was setting world records. Not Jr. world records. Your opinion of how silly swimming events are is irrelevant. To people, who hit tennis balls or catch fly outs, or strike golf balls, they may feel as if running around a track for various different distances is silly. You can't diminish Phelps' accomplishments because you like Bolt better. Bolt has not accomplished nearly the same, reached the same heights as has Phelps. Injuries or whatever the excuse, Phelps has done more. Really can't argue that IMO.
Temo;3166277 said:I'm not arguing that SWIMMING is silly, just the fact that you can get a gold for Free Style 100m, 200m, 400m, and then turn around and the same thing for backstroke. I just don't think you can compare those golds with, say, a basketball gold medal. Or a triathlon gold medal. Even the best triathlete in the world can't win more than one gold per Olympics.
Doomsday101;3166679 said:You can win more than 1 medal in track if you have the talent to run in the different track events. Many of Phelps competitors did not swim in all the events he did, many only specialized in their own particular event be it the 100, 200 or 400.