Why are people bashing Romo for that loss?

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If you would have told me the Cowboys score 24 points on Saturday Night, I would have taken it ... no matter how "ugly" it came.

I don't think many people really follow the NFL much outside of the Cowboys, so they think teams should just be able to march right down the field and air out 30+ points Ravens defense.
 

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InmanRoshi;2518021 said:
If you would have told me the Cowboys score 24 points on Saturday Night, I would have taken it ... no matter how "ugly" it came.

I don't think many people really follow the NFL much outside of the Cowboys, so they think teams should just be able to march right down the field and air out 30+ points Ravens defense.

We scored 24 but the Ravens were not putting as much pressure on our offense.
 

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Star4Ever;2518019 said:
Romo is always thinking about the homerun play. That's his main weakness (in addition to fumbling far too much). He doesn't realize that an incomplete pass or a 3 yard gain is sometimes a very good thing. He's too consumed with the big play.

Notice how the only time we ever moved the ball is when we were in 2 minute/audible mode and the playcalling was taken out of Garrett's hands and into Romo's calls at the line ... only then did we see Patrick Crayton start to get the ball in the intermediate routes from the slot, like I've been waiting for for three weeks.
 

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aikemirv;2517843 said:
I think I know what Romos problem is and I am dead serious on this.

He is not having fun anymore. I don't know if it is the situation with TO orwhat but he does not look like it is fun for him like last year.

I love Romo as our QB, but I do think the pressure gets to him, and I don't necessarily mean pressure from pass rushers. It seems that he plays his worst games when the pressure is really on to win. Just an observation.
 

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Star4Ever;2518019 said:
Romo is always thinking about the homerun play. That's his main weakness (in addition to fumbling far too much). He doesn't realize that an incomplete pass or a 3 yard gain is sometimes a very good thing. He's too consumed with the big play.

He needs to realize that it's okay to throw the ball away or take the plays in small chunks. And he needs to be held accountable when he screws up on a big play and throws those bonehead passes, even the ones that are close interceptions.

He's a young QB and needs to be constantly harped on until it's second nature to him.
 

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Star4Ever;2518030 said:
I love Romo as our QB, but I do think the pressure gets to him, and I don't necessarily mean pressure from pass rushers. It seems that he plays his worst games when the pressure is really on to win. Just an observation.


Perhaps he needs a couple of shots of Patron to calm him down before the game. There are enough stars on this team to shoulder the pressure. He doesn't need to put it on himself.
 

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NickZepp;2518027 said:
We scored 24 but the Ravens were not putting as much pressure on our offense.

Are you serious? There were D-lineman breaking free on almost every play. Freaking Terrell Suggs was coming into the backfield unblocked (how does that happen?). The ILB shot the A gap untouched on back to back plays (again, how does that happen?) The only reason it didn't loook like there was much "pressure" is because Romo was eluding them time after time after time. Any other QB is sacked 6-8 times in that game just from the guys coming completely unblocked into the backfield.

And what's funny is that if Tashard Choice could catch an option pitch or the defense could stop an 80 yard runs from habitually happening against the slowest RB tandem in the NFL, when everyone in the stadium knows the Ravens are going to run, all these fans criticizing Romo are the same ones congratulating him for hanging in there and waxing poetic on how great QB's come back to find ways to get it done in the clutch against tough defenses when they don't have their best games. The same exact performance by Romo. The same exact posters. Come on, you've been around these messageboards long enough to know it's true.
 

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bysbox1;2518040 said:
He needs to realize that it's okay to throw the ball away or take the plays in small chunks. And he needs to be held accountable when he screws up on a big play and throws those bonehead passes, even the ones that are close interceptions.

He's a young QB and needs to be constantly harped on until it's second nature to him.

Well, he's actually not that young. He's been in the league six years now, and he's been the starter for over 2 1/2 years. Yea, I know that's not very long, but it's long enough to know you can't just wind up and throw the hell out of the ball and see who comes down with it. That's exactly what he did on those two interceptions Saturday night. He just threw it up as far as he could and waited to see what happened. Stupid plays like that are killing us. However, the entire team makes stupid plays, not just Romo.
 

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Bruzabone21;2517795 said:
This board is crazy....i see people saying get rid of romo and oh he played terrible...and I know he had those 2 horrible interceptions in the first half but we were only down by 2 going in to half....Romo then in the 4th quarter brought us back with a touchdown...seconds later OUR DEFENSE(who should get the bashing) gives up a 70 yard run...Romo gets back on the field and throws another touchdown....and the defense still cant hold the ravens giving up another big touchdown....for people to be bashing romo is dumb!! we would be nowhere without this guy!!!!


Cause that's the agenda for the Monday Morning QBs here. It's always the QBs fault. He gets zero credit for winning big games (Last week the Giants game was a big game, until he played well and they won and then it wasn't that big a game anymore) so now this week they can bag on him again.

It's the nature of those who really don't have a clue about anything.
 

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I'm certainly not putting all the blame on Romo, but he has to shoulder his share. Our defense collapsed on those two long runs, but they had been on the damn field all game long because our offense couldn't sustain any drives at all. He has to quit throwing the ball up for grabs too. Our defense played extremely well until the 4th quarter, but they were tired after being on the field the entire game. Not giving them a pass by any means. There's a lot of blame to go around and a good portion has to be put on the offense in this game, especially in regards to the play-calling.
 

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The time of possession was 32.5 Baltimore vs. 27.5 Dallas .. it wasn't inordinately long for the defense to be out on field. And a large part of the blame for that has to do with the defense's nasty habit of jumping offsides on third downs and other boneheaded mistakes that hand the opponent extended drives on a silver platter. Those big runs didn't have anything to do with them being 'too tired', they just mentally collapsed at the worst time.

Romo has spoiled Cowboy fans to the point where if he's not putting up 30 points every week then he's not pulling his weight and putting too much unfair pressure on the defense to hold the opponent to under 20 points .. even though that's how the Titans, Ravens, Pittsburgh, Vikings and Dolphins go into every week expecting to win.

After perennially leading the NFL in penalties, worst special teams in the league and the innumerable other unchartable mistakes, Romo has bailed out the team from themselves so many times in the last 3 years it's unbelievable. The one time he's unable bail them out from themselves, and actually needs their help, they choke ..... and it's time to run Romo out of town? Fine. Go ahead. Let's go with a journeyman QB who throws for 175 yards a game and the 75 QB rating and just tell him to not make a mistake and we'll lean on this defense to win the game for us in crunch time and see where we go ... we got a preview of it Saturday Night (and three other games this season Romo was out).
 

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Those times of possession are a bit skewed though. The last couple of times Baltimore had the ball their possessions only lasted one play each, being both of the long runs that killed us. Our defense was on the field far too long in the first half because our offense did absolutely NOTHING.
 

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aikemirv;2517843 said:
I think I know what Romos problem is and I am dead serious on this.

He is not having fun anymore. I don't know if it is the situation with TO orwhat but he does not look like it is fun for him like last year.

Let me take a stab at this one.............

He was knee'd in the back and had a major spasm 5 days before this game. He was in bed for 2 of them and couldn't walk. That gave him 3 days to "get better". Have you ever had back spasms? For you or me to be ok to function normally in 5 days is possible. However for a guy to throw deep passes and take the hits he had to against the Ravens is something else.

I would love to see the people who are all over him deal with that injury and see how many of them would complete the Giants game, much less be back to play the Ravens in 5 days.
 

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Bruzabone21;2517795 said:
This board is crazy....i see people saying get rid of romo and oh he played terrible...and I know he had those 2 horrible interceptions in the first half but we were only down by 2 going in to half....Romo then in the 4th quarter brought us back with a touchdown...seconds later OUR DEFENSE(who should get the bashing) gives up a 70 yard run...Romo gets back on the field and throws another touchdown....and the defense still cant hold the ravens giving up another big touchdown....for people to be bashing romo is dumb!! we would be nowhere without this guy!!!!
Because our team is absolutely dependent on Tony Romo to make plays, in order to win a football game. Nate Newton even said so. I quote "This team relies on Tony Romo, to make plays, WAY too much. He needs a good O line to help him out. The man is running for his life every other play."

And Everybody know that's true. Look what happened, when he was out. We got creamed.

So when he can't put on his superman show, and win the game for us, even when everyone else sucks around him, and he's not getting much help, he gets bashed.

And that's fine. That's just part of being the QB of the Dallas Cowboys.

When people are angry, they need someone to vent on. And HE gets the heat. No matter what.

It just is what it is.

Look. Not to be condescending or anything because I'm certainly no expert. But, most folks watch a football game, and really don't have a solid understanding of what they are really looking at. As far as why this play worked, or why another one, did not. Was it Romo's fault, or not? Its like, "Oh, he overthrew him." No. The WR gave up on the route. Or executed a curl route, when he should have run a skinny post. That kind of thing.

So, we see. But we don't REALLY see. At least some of the time.

The bottom line is, the QB always gets more credit and blame than he should. Its just worse here in Dallas than just about anywhere else.

Go Cowboys!!!!
 

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FLCowboyFan;2518228 said:
Let me take a stab at this one.............

He was knee'd in the back and had a major spasm 5 days before this game. He was in bed for 2 of them and couldn't walk. That gave him 3 days to "get better". Have you ever had back spasms? For you or me to be ok to function normally in 5 days is possible. However for a guy to throw deep passes and take the hits he had to against the Ravens is something else.

I would love to see the people who are all over him deal with that injury and see how many of them would complete the Giants game, much less be back to play the Ravens in 5 days.
Great Post. Love it.

Go Cowboys!!!
 

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Bruzabone21;2517795 said:
This board is crazy....i see people saying get rid of romo and oh he played terrible...and I know he had those 2 horrible interceptions in the first half but we were only down by 2 going in to half....Romo then in the 4th quarter brought us back with a touchdown...seconds later OUR DEFENSE(who should get the bashing) gives up a 70 yard run...Romo gets back on the field and throws another touchdown....and the defense still cant hold the ravens giving up another big touchdown....for people to be bashing romo is dumb!! we would be nowhere without this guy!!!!
They want steve pelluer back:laugh2:
 

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aikemirv;2517843 said:
I think I know what Romos problem is and I am dead serious on this.

He is not having fun anymore. I don't know if it is the situation with TO orwhat but he does not look like it is fun for him like last year.


I agree.

I'll take it one step further and say that he feeling the real pressure of being QB for the Cowboys.

His first year as a starter he had little expectations on him and he exceeded those.

Year 2 just about EVERYTHING went his and the Cowboy's way so he didn't have to deal the the pressure brought on by adversity.

Then came the playoff loss and a season which came with the expectations of the football world to win a championship. Throw in some injury and some "luck" going against the team and Romo is dealing with the whole package of being the chosen one for really the first time in his career.

I hope he can figure out how to deal with it but i have my doubts.
 

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InmanRoshi;2518054 said:
Are you serious? There were D-lineman breaking free on almost every play. Freaking Terrell Suggs was coming into the backfield unblocked (how does that happen?). The ILB shot the A gap untouched on back to back plays (again, how does that happen?) The only reason it didn't loook like there was much "pressure" is because Romo was eluding them time after time after time. Any other QB is sacked 6-8 times in that game just from the guys coming completely unblocked into the backfield.

And what's funny is that if Tashard Choice could catch an option pitch or the defense could stop an 80 yard runs from habitually happening against the slowest RB tandem in the NFL, when everyone in the stadium knows the Ravens are going to run, all these fans criticizing Romo are the same ones congratulating him for hanging in there and waxing poetic on how great QB's come back to find ways to get it done in the clutch against tough defenses when they don't have their best games. The same exact performance by Romo. The same exact posters. Come on, you've been around these messageboards long enough to know it's true.

You are exactly right about this. It is funny that is the way the NFL is. But since we did not win everyone wants to focus on how bad he was for the first 3 qtrs.

If Crayton does not stop his route in the playoffs last year Romo puts together the game winning drive.

If Manning is picked by Asante in the Super Bowl he is the goat instead of this hero they make him out to be. Did Miles let up a bit on the deep in that Romo overthrew? I think he might have a bit.
 

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To answer the question in the thread: When we have no turnovers, we win the game.
 

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Don't forget the pressure TO heaps on. If something isn't going right, he is the first one with the pitch fork throwing manure on Romo and then wondering why he smells.

How would you like to have your co-workers point out every flaw you make and take ZERO responsibility for their mistakes. TO is a good player but he is a really tough team mate. Makes you wonder why Romo wouldn't feel comfortable with him or why he might not being having fun.
 
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