Why are we running the ball effectively with Rush but not with Dak?

[MountaineerCowboy]

Because Dak can't read a defense and will audible out of them.

 

[Haimerej]

Did you think the Joneses would pony up that kind of money and not demand he be made a star to justify it? Booger cannot stand any form of criticism so Moore got his marching orders that Prescott has to be a top tier for the old fool's ego.

No way can Prescott be thought of as a bus driver or a Cousins comparison.

The idiot son went as far as to say Prescott is a top 3 QB and nobody has him close to that level. And that puts additional pressure on Prescott.

I find it interesting that Orlovsky and Young both think they should run the O they're running with Rush for Prescott when he comes back, it is so evident there are two different offenses.

Booger must have stars to market. Did you hear what he said about Parsons? "We've got big plans for Micah Parsons". What a completely ridiculous statement to make, players make their own plans through their play. He's so arrogant, he wants to take some of the shine from Parsons' natural talent. Without our plan, he's just a player.

That's just silly.

Dak has final authority before the ball is snapped, just like nearly every QB in the league.

 

[Awakened]

This could easily turn into a 10 page thread as the answer really isnt super simple.

1) Zeke being injured last year really hurt our ability to run
2) So far this year Tampa Bay was by far the best run defense we have faced
3) Dak has a tendency to check out of runs more often than Cooper Rush has shown so far
4) Very possible KM took more of a "back to basics" approach once Rush became the starter
5) Fewer penalties the last couple weeks - fewer situations of 10+ yards to go means more ability to run the football
6) We are seeing more downfield attempts right now than we have in recent Dak history. - This one may be incorrect as I didnt look up the data, but it certainly feels like Rush is taking more shots down field, and even those mid range throws.

and the list can go on and on. I have a ton of ideas as to why, but I struggle to pin point just once answer.

 

[CouchCoach]

That's just silly.

Dak has final authority before the ball is snapped, just like nearly every QB in the league.

And you think he doesn't want to be a star like Allen, Mahomes and Rodgers? He sees and hears all the negative chatter. What was that he said? Oh yeah, he wants to be the best Cowboys QB in history.

 

[Haimerej]

And you think he doesn't want to be a star like Allen, Mahomes and Rodgers? He sees and hears all the negative chatter. What was that he said? Oh yeah, he wants to be the best Cowboys QB in history.

Well yeah. Most QBs when given an option like to throw the ball. But you're acting like Jerry's sitting on his shoulder saying, "Pass! Pass! Pass!"

 

[gimmesix]

Why are we running the ball effectively w/ Rush, but mostly could not do so w/ Dak? I absolutely cannot wrap my head around this one. What's the big difference? Does Dak have a tell? I mean, we're just not seeing defenders meeting RB's in the backfield as we did before.

Any ideas?

Because we're not facing the Tampa Bay defense, and Elliott was running effectively in that game.

We were effective running with Dak in there last year, too, until Elliott got hurt.

 

[CTcowboy203]

You mean the 1 game dak played this year? The bucs linebackers and defense may have something to do with that

 

[Meat-O-Rama]

Because Dak was facing a Defense that was Top 3 against the run for all of 2021 and in the top 5 against the run so far this season. Cincinnati and NY are not as good against the run.

It's not the QB that's affecting the run game, it's the opponent.

 

[Ranched]

Because Moore's new coach is helping him out withe his playbook & thus, the Cowboys’ run game has returned. Pollard rushed for 105 yards on 13 carries. Elliott had 73 yards on 15 carries with a touchdown. It was a physical running attack as Moore showed confidence in his running backs to take charge of the offense when needed, especially in the fourth quarter.

IMO, Moore has finally found his MOJO, hopefully I'm not speaking prematurely. Wish he found it against Tampa, but, at least he found it!

 

[RonnieT24]

Because Moore's new coach is helping him out withe his playbook & thus, the Cowboys’ run game has returned. Pollard rushed for 105 yards on 13 carries. Elliott had 73 yards on 15 carries with a touchdown. It was a physical running attack as Moore showed confidence in his running backs to take charge of the offense when needed, especially in the fourth quarter.

IMO, Moore has finally found his MOJO, hopefully I'm not speaking prematurely. Wish he found it against Tampa, but, at least he found it!

You are.. Moore did this exact same thing in games 2-5 last year.. ironically after Jerry called him out for not running it against Tampa.. just like McCarthy did this year.. Moore is going to revert to his usual 70% play self at the first opportunity. He can't help himself.. Book it.

 

[Zman5]

It's the offensive scheme. This has been part of the Cowboys since Romo days. People used to say the same thing back then to bash Romo. Because our offense is based on presnap looks, the defenses can dictate what plays we'll run. Good defenses would fool us into a play presnap, and then get out of the look once the ball is snapped.

It used to drive me nuts when we would checkout of the run and go empty to pass when the run was working. Especially near the goal line. I said it back then and I'll say it now, the coaches need to force the QB to run the play that's called in certain situations.

 

[JayFord]

No, we do not. Huge difference in the effectiveness of the running game.

yes we do

if your RB has 10 carries for 50+ yards and you stop running him that doesnt mean it wasnt effective it means your OC had a brain fart and decided to stop running it

 

[Thomas82]

Exactly right.

Man I wish they would figure this out and do what’s best for the team instead of trying to justify a contract.

I’m completely convinced Jerry has Moore in pad stat mode when it comes to Prescott.

It's been this way since 2019.

 

[nightrain]

Why are we running the ball effectively w/ Rush, but mostly could not do so w/ Dak? I absolutely cannot wrap my head around this one. What's the big difference? Does Dak have a tell? I mean, we're just not seeing defenders meeting RB's in the backfield as we did before.

Any ideas?

The run was hitting against the Bucs but either the play caller or the QB seemed to want air it out and they never stuck with it. Rush holds true to his surname.

 

[HonoluluCowboy]

Don't.. the simple fact of the matter is we run a very different offense when the two are in. One guy leads the offense to 400+ yards and 30+ points with regularity while the other guy is fortunate to get to 20. If we used this game plan with Dak at QB (like we saw in weeks 2-5 last year) we get the best of both worlds.. An offense that can grind the opposition to paste but a QB who can light them up for 400 yards and 4 TDs at a moment's notice. The biggest problem is getting Moore to recognize that we don't need to play every game like we need 400 yards and 4 TDs out of Dak.. because we don't. We have two very good running backs and an offensive line that appears to be much improved at least in run blocking.. and I think having a couple of tight ends who don't whiff on the backside end regularly is making all the difference. The younguns are already better blockers than Schultz.. and neither appears to be a liability catching the ball either.. Hope Schultz invests his 11 million well.. He will not be getting another contract for that kind of money..

This post is crap . Show Dak's stats against winning teams . And leave the garbage padded stats off, as thats what has bolstered his stats past year . He is awful against winning teams . How many times were we down 20+ last year and he threw for 200+ yards in the 4th, but only had less than 100 thru 3 quarters . T

DAK BLOWS

 

[Dre11]

you played Tampa, who's probably the best run stopping team.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Why are we running the ball effectively w/ Rush, but mostly could not do so w/ Dak? I absolutely cannot wrap my head around this one. What's the big difference? Does Dak have a tell? I mean, we're just not seeing defenders meeting RB's in the backfield as we did before.

Any ideas?

1. We ran it well against the Bucs, but Moore went away from it. Bucs are a much better run defense
2. Moore has a more conservative game plan with Rush knowing he has to run the ball to be win.
3. Oline is playing better even then they did in the Bucs game.

 

[CowboyRoy]

It absolutely makes a difference.. as I have been clamoring for for three years, quit giving Zeke the damn standstill handoff. Having that beast attack the line of scrimmage with a head of steam is always going to yield better results. We have seen a lot more plays run under center with Rush in the lineup and the impact in the running game has been obvious. Even Pollard has been more effective between the tackles from the deep set.

LOL.........there you go calling Zeke a beast again.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Dak is more physically talented, but I'm starting to question mightily whether he's a better player.

You shouldnt admit that on an open forum like that. I know some on here have no shame at all, but your different.

 

[Cowboyny]

Why are we running the ball effectively w/ Rush, but mostly could not do so w/ Dak? I absolutely cannot wrap my head around this one. What's the big difference? Does Dak have a tell? I mean, we're just not seeing defenders meeting RB's in the backfield as we did before.

Any ideas?

A) the only game Dak played this yr was against one of the best run defenses in the entire league.
B) run game was working against the tough TB defense, but Moore went away from it.