Why Bellichecks Pats could beat 90's Pokes

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Because he beat them with the 1994 Browns!

If he can do that don't dismiss that he Can't do that with this Pats team? His schemes? It would be a game! And he went on to *** kick Parcells in Playoffs!

On his resume his D has beaten Gibbs Skins, 49ers in the 80's, routinely sent Eagles home, his 94 Browns were # 1 in points allowed. His past 4 year schoolings of Rams and Colts are legandary. If any 1 defense and coach could give that Dallas team a game. You are looking at it.

What is the Line? Dallas by 8?

Who you betting in this game?


1994 Cleveland Browns
Record: 11 - 5 - 0
Head Coach: Bill Belichick

Points scored: 340 (#12 of 28 in the NFL)
Points allowed: 204 (#1 of 28 in the NFL)


1994 standings | 1994 team stats | 1994 league leaders | 1994 Pro Bowl rosters

1993 Cleveland Browns | 1995 Cleveland Browns




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Game-by-game results
+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+
| Week | Opponent | Result | Score |
+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+
| 1 | at Cincinnati Bengals | W | 28-20 |
| 2 | Pittsburgh Steelers | L | 10-17 |
| 3 | Arizona Cardinals | W | 32- 0 |
| 4 | at Indianapolis Colts | W | 21-14 |
| 5 | New York Jets | W | 27- 7 |
| 6 | BYE WEEK |
| 7 | at Houston Oilers | W | 11- 8 |
| 8 | Cincinnati Bengals | W | 37-13 |
| 9 | at Denver Broncos | L | 14-26 |
| 10 | New England Patriots | W | 13- 6 |
| 11 | at Philadelphia Eagles | W | 26- 7 |
| 12 | at Kansas City Chiefs | L | 13-20 |
| 13 | Houston Oilers | W | 34-10 |
| 14 | New York Giants | L | 13-16 |
| 15 | at Dallas Cowboys | W | 19-14 ||
16 | at Pittsburgh Steelers | L | 7-17 |
| 17 | Seattle Seahawks | W | 35- 9 |
+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+


Postseason
AFC Wildcard Game: won 20 - 13 vs. New England Patriots
AFC Divisional Playoff: lost 9 - 29 at Pittsburgh Steelers



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Team Offense
|---------- PASSING -----------||----- RUSHING -----| TOTAL
CMP ATT YD YPA TD INT ATT YD YPA TD YD
266 507 3269 6.45 20 21 449 1657 3.69 12 4926
NFL rank ---> 24 19 21 23 14 25 13 14 16 13 20

Team Defense
|---------- PASSING -----------||----- RUSHING -----| TOTAL
CMP ATT YD YPA TD INT ATT YD YPA TD YD
325 587 3425 5.83 13 18 465 1669 3.59 9 5094
NFL rank ---> 18 25 8 1 2 11 21 13 11 5 8


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Pro Bowlers: Rob Burnett (dl), Leroy Hoard (rb), Pepper Johnson (lb), Eric Metcalf (wr), Michael Dean Perry (dl), Eric Turner (db).

Incomplete list of notable non-skill-position players:Carl Banks (lb), Rob Burnett (dl), Pepper Johnson (lb), Tony Jones (ol), Michael Dean Perry (dl), Bennie Thompson (db), Eric Turner (db).


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Player Stats
These stats are almost complete

Quarterbacks
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
| Name | G | CMP ATT PCT YARD Y/A TD IN | RSH YARD TD |
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
| Brad Goebel | 1 | 0 0 0.0 0 0.0 0 0 | 0 0 0 |
| Mark Rypien | 7 | 59 128 46.1 694 5.4 4 3 | 7 4 0 |
| Vinny Testaverde | 14 | 207 376 55.1 2575 6.8 16 18 | 21 37 2 |
 

irvin88

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It is not even close. Boys win by at least 14 points hands down. Who cares about a week 15 NFL game.
 

irvin88

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Now Nors,
Are you the "sportsguy" from espn.com trying to make us mad?? The only pl,ayers from the NE team that could for the Cowboys would maybe be Harrison and Seymour...maybe. Nobody on offense, and I mean nobody. Jimmy Johnson wasn't a bad coach-B.B. is just the "hot man" now, like Gruden was, Shanahan late 90's, etc.
 

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LOL!! !!!!Nors......wash your face with cold water...........now do 10 side straddle hops...........Wash your face again............Take a cold shower......now go to bed, put one foot on the floor to keep the ceiling from spinning.....You will be just fine in the morning. Pleasant dreams Nors. :D
 

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irvin88 said:
Let's look it up. Wouldn't be shocked if it was Garrett.

It was Browns 14th game of season. There are bye weeks.


"He returned to the lineup against Cleveland (12/20) and, after guiding Dallas to one fourth quarter touchdown, had the Cowboys on the Browns' one-yard line when time ran out in a 19-14 loss. After completing 75% of his passes (21 of 28) at New Orleans in a Monday night victory (12/19), Aikman saw limited first half action in the cold and rain against the Giants (12/24) in the season finale."
 

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Cbz40 said:
LOL!! !!!!Nors......wash your face with cold water...........now do 10 side straddle hops...........Wash your face again............Take a cold shower......now go to bed, put one foot on the floor to keep the ceiling from spinning.....You will be just fine in the morning. Pleasant dreams Nors. :D

:lmao:
 

Nors

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Cbz40 said:
LOL!! !!!!Nors......wash your face with cold water...........now do 10 side straddle hops...........Wash your face again............Take a cold shower......now go to bed, put one foot on the floor to keep the ceiling from spinning.....You will be just fine in the morning. Pleasant dreams Nors. :D


All I'm stating is BB and this Patriot teams would give that Dallas team a game. He beat them with the Browns in the day..............
 

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Nors said:
All I'm stating is BB and this Patriot teams would give that Dallas team a game. He beat them with the Browns in the day..............

It was a Sturday game after the Cowboys just wrapped up the division vs. the Eagles at the Vet. It was a "letdown game" folks. We lost 15-10 2 weeks later at the Giants. It means NOTHING. Cowboys 31, Pats 14 !! Book it.
 

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Schemes and gimmicks tend to work better in the regular season, but regular season games don't determine the Championship in the NFL. The Dolphins, Bills, and Rams among other teams beat us in the Regular season. When that team was focused and cared it killed everyone they played.

With your line of reasoning why don't we just cherry pick games from each season and have our favorite team come out on top every time, no need for nasty playoffs or Super Bowls.

Of course we will never know for sure, but there is no question that the talent and depth on those Cowboy teams was far superior to the talent and depth of these Patriots - which by the way is the hall mark of this team.

I'm sure you must agree that the Pats have no chance this week because the Steelers beat them already this year IN THE REGULAR SEASON by quite a margin.
 

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Nors said:
All I'm stating is BB and this Patriot teams would give that Dallas team a game. He beat them with the Browns in the day..............

Every Dog has it's day, which can be said for every team Dallas lost to in the early 90's.

They were different era's, but the main difference is Dallas did not need all the schemes New England does. They just lined up and took it to you because they were by far better than you in every position.

Our Offensive Line would have destroyed their Front 7, yes Destroyed. Game, set, match!
 

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No way this is close Nors. We line right up and run over them all game. How would they stop Tui, LA, Step, Nate, Williams and DJ blocking? No freaking way they can.

When they try and stop the run with eight or nine in the Box Troy hits either Mike, Alvin or Jay in single coverage.
 

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No way this is close Nors. We line right up and run over them all game. How would they stop Tui, LA, Step, Nate, Williams and DJ blocking? No freaking way they can.

When they try and stop the run with eight or nine in the Box Troy hits either Mike, Alvin or Jay in single coverage.

Not even a contest. Now maybe the 85 Bears, but these Patriots are a joke. Don't rule out Pitt this weekend.
 

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Would they even be able to stop the early nineties Bills??
 

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Nors
If I remember correctly Dallas had that game but Aikman threw and interception in the end zone. You must remember Switzer was the coach. Emmitt and Irvinwent over a 100 yards. Aikman didn't play that well, It may have been raining. I am not saying that the Patriots would not have given them a game.I just think the Cowboys would have beat them.

Peace
 

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This might be the wost friggin argument I've ever seen here. There's really no way to ever know who beats who, although I would favor Dallas (as most would), but the reasoning is about the most backassward bunch of nonsense a person could come up with.

Nors' book of shock value adds yet another chapter. Not really a good read.
 

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Nors said:
Because he beat them with the 1994 Browns!

If he can do that don't dismiss that he Can't do that with this Pats team? His schemes? It would be a game! And he went on to *** kick Parcells in Playoffs!

On his resume his D has beaten Gibbs Skins, 49ers in the 80's, routinely sent Eagles home, his 94 Browns were # 1 in points allowed. His past 4 year schoolings of Rams and Colts are legandary. If any 1 defense and coach could give that Dallas team a game. You are looking at it.

What is the Line? Dallas by 8?

Who you betting in this game?


1994 Cleveland Browns
Record: 11 - 5 - 0
Head Coach: Bill Belichick

Points scored: 340 (#12 of 28 in the NFL)
Points allowed: 204 (#1 of 28 in the NFL)


1994 standings | 1994 team stats | 1994 league leaders | 1994 Pro Bowl rosters

1993 Cleveland Browns | 1995 Cleveland Browns




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Game-by-game results
+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+
| Week | Opponent | Result | Score |
+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+
| 1 | at Cincinnati Bengals | W | 28-20 |
| 2 | Pittsburgh Steelers | L | 10-17 |
| 3 | Arizona Cardinals | W | 32- 0 |
| 4 | at Indianapolis Colts | W | 21-14 |
| 5 | New York Jets | W | 27- 7 |
| 6 | BYE WEEK |
| 7 | at Houston Oilers | W | 11- 8 |
| 8 | Cincinnati Bengals | W | 37-13 |
| 9 | at Denver Broncos | L | 14-26 |
| 10 | New England Patriots | W | 13- 6 |
| 11 | at Philadelphia Eagles | W | 26- 7 |
| 12 | at Kansas City Chiefs | L | 13-20 |
| 13 | Houston Oilers | W | 34-10 |
| 14 | New York Giants | L | 13-16 |
| 15 | at Dallas Cowboys | W | 19-14 ||
16 | at Pittsburgh Steelers | L | 7-17 |
| 17 | Seattle Seahawks | W | 35- 9 |
+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+


Postseason
AFC Wildcard Game: won 20 - 13 vs. New England Patriots
AFC Divisional Playoff: lost 9 - 29 at Pittsburgh Steelers



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Team Offense
|---------- PASSING -----------||----- RUSHING -----| TOTAL
CMP ATT YD YPA TD INT ATT YD YPA TD YD
266 507 3269 6.45 20 21 449 1657 3.69 12 4926
NFL rank ---> 24 19 21 23 14 25 13 14 16 13 20

Team Defense
|---------- PASSING -----------||----- RUSHING -----| TOTAL
CMP ATT YD YPA TD INT ATT YD YPA TD YD
325 587 3425 5.83 13 18 465 1669 3.59 9 5094
NFL rank ---> 18 25 8 1 2 11 21 13 11 5 8


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Pro Bowlers: Rob Burnett (dl), Leroy Hoard (rb), Pepper Johnson (lb), Eric Metcalf (wr), Michael Dean Perry (dl), Eric Turner (db).

Incomplete list of notable non-skill-position players:Carl Banks (lb), Rob Burnett (dl), Pepper Johnson (lb), Tony Jones (ol), Michael Dean Perry (dl), Bennie Thompson (db), Eric Turner (db).


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Player Stats
These stats are almost complete

Quarterbacks
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
| Name | G | CMP ATT PCT YARD Y/A TD IN | RSH YARD TD |
+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+
| Brad Goebel | 1 | 0 0 0.0 0 0.0 0 0 | 0 0 0 |
| Mark Rypien | 7 | 59 128 46.1 694 5.4 4 3 | 7 4 0 |
| Vinny Testaverde | 14 | 207 376 55.1 2575 6.8 16 18 | 21 37 2 |

this is your brain on drugs

:rolleyes:

David
 
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