Why Dak Got Paid

cowboyec

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Okay.

But we are straying off topic. Your very first sentence was "we had no other option".

But of course we had other options. It was decided to not use them.
correct.
what option was there on the roster.
none.
dont give me rush.
dont give me lance.
because of this f/o's failure to draft qb's behind dak....they left themselves with no option but to extend dak.
they should have been building a competitive qb room like landry's...which was why i referenced that.
jerry doesn't.
never has.
dak got paid because there was no option behind him.
it was...and is...a derelection of duty by our gm.
 

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correct.
what option was there on the roster.
none.
dont give me rush.
dont give me lance.
because of this f/o's failure to draft qb's behind dak....they left themselves with no option but to extend dak.
they should have been building a competitive qb room like landry's...which was why i referenced that.
jerry doesn't.
never has.
dak got paid because there was no option behind him.
it was...and is...a derelection of duty by our gm.
Ok...next time be more specific.

It's is EXTREMELY stupid to say "Dak got paid because there was no option behind him".

So what? Every team has their next QB already on the roster? Of course not.

If you think Jerry is too stupid to find a QB not on the roster, it has nothing to do with "no other option".

And we found out we are almost the same team with Cooper. So...double wrong.
 

cowboyec

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Ok...next time be more specific.

It's is EXTREMELY stupid to say "Dak got paid because there was no option behind him".

So what? Every team has their next QB already on the roster? Of course not.

If you think Jerry is too stupid to find a QB not on the roster, it has nothing to do with "no other option".

And we found out we are almost the same team with Cooper. So...double wrong.
stupid?
if our gm had not been ignoring the most important position on the team...they would not have to do anything with dak.
but since 2016 they drafted...mike white and ben dinucci.
thats not meredith...morton...staubach.

green bay did it 3x...majkowski to favre...favre to rodgers...rodgers to love.
49ers did it 3x...montana to young...smith to kapernick...garappolo to purdy.
chiefs had smith and mahomes.

good teams build good qb rooms because they dont ignore the most important position on the team.

our gm does not know how to build a competitive roster.
and as long as he is the gm...none of this matters.
 

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stupid?
if our gm had not been ignoring the most important position on the team...they would not have to do anything with dak.
but since 2016 they drafted...mike white and ben dinucci.
thats not meredith...morton...staubach.

green bay did it 3x...majkowski to favre...favre to rodgers...rodgers to love.
49ers did it 3x...montana to young...smith to kapernick...garappolo to purdy.
chiefs had smith and mahomes.

good teams build good qb rooms because they dont ignore the most important position on the team.

our gm does not know how to build a competitive roster.
and as long as he is the gm...none of this matters.
Thats fine bro. We agree on that.

All i am saying is there were OF COURSE...other options. You said there werent any.

Have a good evening.
 

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As per EVERY Dak First fan, mention how fair they are about apportioning blame on Dak (usually within a sentence) and then deflect to EVERYTHING ELSE.

Stats, OK, just go to his Regular vrs Post Season stats MVP votes mean nothing, if you go into the play-offs throw 2 Ints and go straight to Deer in Headlight mode (that stat is easy to calculate, pretty much ever time he's behind and clock ticking) ....and make sure you go to his Splits when trailing with 3 mins left, they are the biggest differential between him and his contemporaries: Cousins, Goff and Stafford
Ok you said I apportion Dak from being blamed... when I stated that I've never apportioned Dak away from blame.... you say I'm a Dak fan??? Go take your medicine my guy. You're contradicting yourself.

Ok, and the dumbest thing I've ever heard anyone bring up is calling and Dallas Cowboys fan, a fan of a player on the Dallas Cowboys.... I'm a Cowboys fan first. Always have been and always will be.

I cheer for the players in the Dallas Cowboys uniform. So how can you say you're a fan of a team, but don't cheer for all of its players?? Thats dumb as **** to say.

Lastly.... did you seriously even bring up Matthew Stafford?? Isn't Stafford the same quarterback who's like 11-70 vs teams with winning records?

Oh wait, you're going to say he won a Superbowl. Yeah.... the year he won a Superbowl with the Rams, he led the league in interceptions. If he was that good, he would have won with the Lions.

Great quarterbacks elevate the teams around them, correct? So Stafford, Dak, or any other quarterback don't have any excuses. It's all on the quarterback according to you.
 

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That is insane. Mahomes does more with less than any QB in the NFL. He doesn't have a CD lamb and he's never had a pro bowl caliber rb. Mahomes has a 35 year old TE and a cast of average NFL wrs.
No, he only had Hill........ :rolleyes: And great offensive lines and great defenses. Not to great coach and a GM that doesn't meddle...Give Dak the same??? We'd of won 2 Super Bowls with him by now...But if it makes you feel better saying Dak..Dak...Dak... ask yourself..."What had occurred in Dallas before Dak got here?":facepalm::laugh:
 

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No, he only had Hill........ :rolleyes: And great offensive lines and great defenses. Not to great coach and a GM that doesn't meddle...Give Dak the same??? We'd of won 2 Super Bowls with him by now...But if it makes you feel better saying Dak..Dak...Dak... ask yourself..."What had occurred in Dallas before Dak got here?":facepalm::laugh:
He has won 2 Super Bowls without Hill.

What happened in Dallas before Dak arrived is the exact same thing. He's made no difference.
 

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Sure, I’ll be happy to do what you don’t feel like doing yourself. Probably take me about an hour. $100 sounds about right. Do you need my contact info?
I already know the answer. I made a post about it weeks ago. Feel free to search it.

Dak gets the majority of his stats against awful teams.
 

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Straight from Cam Newton's 4th and 1.....

Before the season started and QB evals were being done Dak v. other players, notably this one.

We're comparing Dak to another QB with similar stats over their last 50 starts. That's over 3 years' worth of stats. Remember, this was before the season started. Here we go:

Dak Other QB
W/L 33-17 36-14 practically a wash
Pass TDs 105 105
INTs 38 39
Pass Rtg 101.3 98.9
Yds/Att 7.6 7.5
Comp % 68.4 66.8


Many of you know where this is going, though some may not. The other quarterback's stats are those of Patrick Mahomes.

A QB's legacy is built in the post-season, and I won't argue with that. I will argue that PM had better offenses every year, while we were supposed to have a better defense than KC.

Point the finger wherever you want, but the stats don't lie. Football is a 22 man game, and I'd argue that Dak was doing his job. Like him, don't like him, I don't care. Just remember that there are very few QBs that match up to him that also happen to be available.

Somehow Mahomes has always had a running game. Going into this season, it was obvious that we had problems at the RB position, and that was a killer.

Food for thought as we head into the off-season and begin building our team for next year.

Until next year......

(formatted this right before I posted. It's whack once I hit post)
Pile of hogwash.

If you think Dak is anywhere near the player Mahomes is, you need to take up a different sport!!!

Jerry paid Dak because Jerry is a complete moron and a fool.
 

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The problem is people hate Prescott. And it has nothing to do with him being a Dallas cowboy quarterback. They just don’t like him. He could win a Super Bowl and they would hate him.
Hogwash.

Honestly how do you come up w/ this tripe? The feelings toward Dak are strictly based on him as the starting QB of the Cowboys. Nothing else.
 

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Hogwash.

Honestly how do you come up w/ this tripe? The feelings toward Dak are strictly based on him as the starting QB of the Cowboys. Nothing else.
You read don’t you. I’m 100% correct and people have been telling me so that actually do hate him here.
 

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Great quarterbacks elevate the teams around them, correct? So Stafford, Dak, or any other quarterback don't have any excuses. It's all on the quarterback according to you.
When his biggest weakness is the inability to raise his game whenever he's chasing a deficit, then, yes, it is on him, as he's the only player to have the ball in his hands on every offensive play. His whole body language screams defeat- not leadership.

Ok, going back to your other point.....as you say you're fair in your criticism of him, WHAT are you actually critical of, because it comes across as subtle deflection upon some other factor of the roster or FO.
 

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The problem is people hate Prescott. And it has nothing to do with him being a Dallas cowboy quarterback. They just don’t like him. He could win a Super Bowl and they would hate him.
Wrong. Fans can see that his weaknesses are pretty insurmountable and inconsistent in us winning through the play-offs. Better teams, with better defenses can play to the Dak Blueprint as they know he cant function in chasing a game, composure will go and he'll lose out.

Prime example....how well he played vrs Buccs play-off.....143 Rtg when we never went behind. Following week, vrs 49ers .....63 Rtg (and had two late drives to level).
 

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You read don’t you. I’m 100% correct and people have been telling me so that actually do hate him here.
You mean like the 6 haters who run around yanking the homers' chains? You're speaking of the tiny minority. Only a very very few fans care about Dak except as it relates to his QBing.

Maybe stay out of the horrific Dak spew a little more and you'll get the true picture.
 

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Despite posting his shortest Time to Throw (TTT) since 2020, Prescott saw an increase of pressures per game with a significant portion of that coming from the edge. Prescott played like he was on a clock and that was likely by design. Dallas’ struggles at OT were rather predictable and Mike McCarthy’s gameplans generally reflected that.

McCarthy routinely used running backs and tight ends to assist his two OTs in pass protection, but that unavoidably removed an extra target downfield. With more defenders in coverage than receiving targets running routes, separation was hard to come by and windows were as narrow as they’ve ever been. It added up to a very stressful situation that not only impacted Prescott’s play in 2024 but may trickle into 2025 as well.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...teele-tyler-guyton-dak-prescott-mike-mccarthy

Would the remedy at offensive tackles put Prescott back in a dominant role? If solved, he well could be worth the contract.
 

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You mean like the 6 haters who run around yanking the homers' chains? You're speaking of the tiny minority. Only a very very few fans care about Dak except as it relates to his QBing.

Maybe stay out of the horrific Dak spew a little more and you'll get the true picture.
I know the picture. But what I said was accurate to the person I said it too. He was part of that clan.
 

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Despite posting his shortest Time to Throw (TTT) since 2020, Prescott saw an increase of pressures per game with a significant portion of that coming from the edge. Prescott played like he was on a clock and that was likely by design. Dallas’ struggles at OT were rather predictable and Mike McCarthy’s gameplans generally reflected that.

McCarthy routinely used running backs and tight ends to assist his two OTs in pass protection, but that unavoidably removed an extra target downfield. With more defenders in coverage than receiving targets running routes, separation was hard to come by and windows were as narrow as they’ve ever been. It added up to a very stressful situation that not only impacted Prescott’s play in 2024 but may trickle into 2025 as well.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...teele-tyler-guyton-dak-prescott-mike-mccarthy

Would the remedy at offensive tackles put Prescott back in a dominant role? If solved, he well could be worth the contract.
And suddenly when Rush took over WR's were open. And the OL suddenly held long enough. Just think about those two things and work on evaluating why.
 
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