Why Dak Got Paid

[CowboyoWales]

Nice response.....It's called the Law of Supply and Demand.....Or in America....a Capitalist- system.... Reason I say Jerry suck??? He could of had Dak for 15 to 20 million cheaper. Wanna blame somebody for his money??? Blame Jerry.....

Yea, because 4 year (contract) Dak always asks/gets a 4 year year deal because he's willing to give up money....there was I thinking it was to hit FA again and reset the market. If your hero had given a longer contract maybe that fool of an owner would of done something, restructured into infinity and gone for it.

 

[noshame]

Well, see, there's my problem with stats.

I have watched Patrick Mahomes play football, and I have watched Dak Prescott play football.

period

 

[BoysForLife]

Also the "He's a real leader" has faded out as well.

That was never true.

His leadership cred has always been grossly overhyped

The guy tried to claim a Louis Vuitton man purse was personal motivation for getting to the Super Bowl

He has zero locker room presence or credibility. Nobody believes in him in that locker room. Objectively that team competed harder this season after he got hurt.

 

[GINeric]

So that means out of those four, Dak comes fifth. No Superbowl and induction into the HoF

Yep, you're absolutely right! Dak comes in fifth!!

Now that we got that out the way, according to your logic, Dilfer and Foles were better quarterbacks than Marino and Kelly because they won Superbowls, correct?

Are you going to respectfully answer the question this time or are you going to deflect once again?

 

[GINeric]

Leave his teammates out of this.

This thread is about Dak

Leave his teammates out of a conversation about a team game? That doesn't make sense. This isn't boxing, golf or tennis.

 

[LovinItAll]

Now break out the stats and compare his stats against sub 500 teams vs over 500 teams.

Sure, I’ll be happy to do what you don’t feel like doing yourself. Probably take me about an hour. $100 sounds about right. Do you need my contact info?

 

[LovinItAll]

Oh you're basing everything on the sole season he had no running game, a bad offensive line and one receiver? That's fair I guess.

But I'm talking about a body of work.

You're real good with stats. Now post his career winning percentage, his career interception to touchdown ratio, and his career ranking average since he's been in the league.

I bet you won't do that.....

Sure I’ll do it if you don’t want to. Do you need my CashApp? It’ll take me a bit. Call it $100 and I’ll whip those up for you.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Yep, you're absolutely right! Dak comes in fifth!!

Now that we got that out the way, according to your logic, Dilfer and Foles were better quarterbacks than Marino and Kelly because they won Superbowls, correct?

Are you going to respectfully answer the question this time or are you going to deflect once again?

No, i'm picking Dilfer and Foles for winning Superbowls. Two back-up QB's, on teams that werent paying their QB room and were therefore able to build strong rosters. Dilfer epitomizes the opinion that if you dont have an 'elite QB', then go cheap and build a roster that can win. Foles has the added advantage that he attained a Rating over 100 in every game in the SB run...... and the big one....in the SB he orchestrated a comeback TD with less than 3 mins. WHICH IS THE REASON WHY SO MANY FANS HAVE A LOW OPINION OF DAK.....because that's his Kryptonite.

You're going to prefer Dak because of some meaningless stats, that arent even going to get him into the HoF. It's akin to the Dak v Romo debate, it's inane, neither won, therefore neither were good enough. But you'll complain about not getting to a Championship Game, whilst lauding Dak and vilifying and deflecting the whole blame onto Jerry (Defense, O-line, receivers, OC, HC). Even in the season that we had a stacked roster and Dak got MVP votes, as soon as it got difficult and we struggle (Miami, Buffalo and Detroit, where he struggled to see out the game and then GB and is natural Deer-in -headlights routine) you then apportion blame away from Dak.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Sure I’ll do it if you don’t want to. Do you need my CashApp? It’ll take me a bit. Call it $100 and I’ll whip those up for you.

He's trying to support your position. There's a rift in the Dak Love Camp. As was mentioned in #2 of your thread.....

Sometimes people just try and start arguments.

It's thread's like these that try to elevate Dak to this successful win/leader/QB (whilst deflecting blame to pretty much EVERYONE), rather than letting his performance on the field dictate the opinion.

Dak got paid, because Jerry's a fool, who pays on the past and commercial basis and Dak preferred the money (AS IDENTIFIED IN THE LENGTH OF CONTRACT) and his ability to hit FA again......ironically both are going to be disappointed, especially if Dak's cut in 2026 (post June), where he loses $140m in the non-guaranteed part of the contract.

 

[JoeKing]

Straight from Cam Newton's 4th and 1.....

Before the season started and QB evals were being done Dak v. other players, notably this one.

We're comparing Dak to another QB with similar stats over their last 50 starts. That's over 3 years' worth of stats. Remember, this was before the season started. Here we go:

Dak Other QB
W/L 33-17 36-14 practically a wash
Pass TDs 105 105
INTs 38 39
Pass Rtg 101.3 98.9
Yds/Att 7.6 7.5
Comp % 68.4 66.8


Many of you know where this is going, though some may not. The other quarterback's stats are those of Patrick Mahomes.

A QB's legacy is built in the post-season, and I won't argue with that. I will argue that PM had better offenses every year, while we were supposed to have a better defense than KC.

Point the finger wherever you want, but the stats don't lie. Football is a 22 man game, and I'd argue that Dak was doing his job. Like him, don't like him, I don't care. Just remember that there are very few QBs that match up to him that also happen to be available.

Somehow Mahomes has always had a running game. Going into this season, it was obvious that we had problems at the RB position, and that was a killer.

Food for thought as we head into the off-season and begin building our team for next year.

Until next year......

(formatted this right before I posted. It's whack once I hit post)

IMO... Dak getting paid had nothing to do with his stats compared to Mahome's. Dak has been a solid QB.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Stats are used to draft players, stats are used to negotiate contracts, stats are used for incentives, stats are to create roster positioning, and most of all.... stats are used to induct players into the NFL Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Now for all those who continue to lie and act like stats don't matter.... tell me which one of those statistical categories I've listed above doesn't matter?

Apparently they matter to the Hall of Fame committee, coaching staff, scouts, GMs and owners.

Let's just say math education is not strong in US primary schools. A lot of kids go into middle school algebra and geometry not understanding fractions or similar underpins from 4th grade. It ends up in a lifelong hatred for the subject of math as they struggle and are humiliated for 7 years.

You are not dealing with anything rational.

 

[Dutton]

After this year’s injury combined with his previous ankle injury he’s going to be a one dimensional pocket passer. Jerry better put a stellar line together for any hope of success. He’s going to be scared to run it

 

[Mr_Slicky]

The problem is people hate Prescott. And it has nothing to do with him being a Dallas cowboy quarterback. They just don’t like him. He could win a Super Bowl and they would hate him.

No. I loved Dak his first few years. Then I saw how he played in the playoffs. He doesn't play his best. He constantly makes bad decisions and poor throws in almost all his playoff games. He has alteady peaked and is in yhe declinging stage of his career. Jerry was dumb to make him the highest paid QB in the league when he won't get any better. He could've found a FA quarterback for half the price and use the rest of the money to build the team around him. Just look at Dak's success his first year in the league. He was surrounded by great players.

 

[5Stars]

Yep, you're absolutely right! Dak comes in fifth!!

Now that we got that out the way, according to your logic, Dilfer and Foles were better quarterbacks than Marino and Kelly because they won Superbowls, correct?

Are you going to respectfully answer the question this time or are you going to deflect once again?

You really need to stop all the deflection. You're really trying to hard to convince yourself that Dak is a good QB.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

 

[GINeric]

No, i'm picking Dilfer and Foles for winning Superbowls. Two back-up QB's, on teams that werent paying their QB room and were therefore able to build strong rosters. Dilfer epitomizes the opinion that if you dont have an 'elite QB', then go cheap and build a roster that can win. Foles has the added advantage that he attained a Rating over 100 in every game in the SB run...... and the big one....in the SB he orchestrated a comeback TD with less than 3 mins. WHICH IS THE REASON WHY SO MANY FANS HAVE A LOW OPINION OF DAK.....because that's his Kryptonite.

You're going to prefer Dak because of some meaningless stats, that arent even going to get him into the HoF. It's akin to the Dak v Romo debate, it's inane, neither won, therefore neither were good enough. But you'll complain about not getting to a Championship Game, whilst lauding Dak and vilifying and deflecting the whole blame onto Jerry (Defense, O-line, receivers, OC, HC). Even in the season that we had a stacked roster and Dak got MVP votes, as soon as it got difficult and we struggle (Miami, Buffalo and Detroit, where he struggled to see out the game and then GB and is natural Deer-in -headlights routine) you then apportion blame away from Dak.

Well you've never seen me "apportion" any blame away from Dak. What you HAVE seen me do, is blame Dak as well as the rest of the team.

Our team has led the league in penalties three straight years. How many of those penalties were on Dak? We can say he contributed to SOME penalties but definitely not all of them.

How many times did our defense make bone headed plays or get gashed on the ground for between 150 and 200 yards? Last time I checked, Dak doesn't play defense.

With all of that said, YES Dak does deserve his fair share of blame. But it you just started following football this season and came to this forum, you would believe all the team's failures are solely because of Dak, based on what is posted here.

That's not the truth at all.

Now as far as stats. We're going to either count them or not count them. All that cherry picking stats for this or that person is nonsense. Stats either matter or they don't. Last time I've checked, stats matter very much and I've posted many reasons why.

 

[GINeric]

You really need to stop all the deflection. You're really trying to hard to convince yourself that Dak is a good QB.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

I'm not trying hard to do anything. I've never said Dak is elite. But yes he is a good quarterback.

If he's not a good quarterback then please feel free to post the names of other bad quarterbacks who are top ten most of their careers, became All Pro and an MVP candidate like Dak did??

How do bad quarterbacks do those things? What other bad quarterbacks did those things? What are their names?

 

[atlantacowboy]

Great response. Mahomes couldn't of done much better with what Jerry gave Dak to work with this season. As with companies that fail. The failure usually starts at the top. No difference in Dallas. 30 years guys!!!!!!! Dak been here for 10.....Yep. Dak's fault

That is insane. Mahomes does more with less than any QB in the NFL. He doesn't have a CD lamb and he's never had a pro bowl caliber rb. Mahomes has a 35 year old TE and a cast of average NFL wrs.

 

[GINeric]

Sure I’ll do it if you don’t want to. Do you need my CashApp? It’ll take me a bit. Call it $100 and I’ll whip those up for you.

Oh you want to get paid to tell the truth.... but put out a small sample cherry picked bad season out of a whole career for free.....

Typical.

I guess if I'm going to crush your agenda and false narratives, you should be paid huh.... i respect your hustle.

 

[5Stars]

I'm not trying hard to do anything. I've never said Dak is elite. But yes he is a good quarterback.

If he's not a good quarterback then please feel free to post the names of other bad quarterbacks who are top ten most of their careers, became All Pro and an MVP candidate like Dak did??

How do bad quarterbacks do those things? What other bad quarterbacks did those things? What are their names?

See what I mean, deflection. Screw the other QB's, this is about Dak.

Carry on...keep convincing yourself that Dak will actually help this team, The Dallas Cowboys. Not other teams.

 

[Dutton]

Dak cannot handle high pressure situations. It’s as simple as that. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt but after Green Bay playoff game that was it. You can go on about the defense but that doesn’t change his total melt down that game. And signing McMike again expect more of the same crap.