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I think had he kept running he would have blown his ACL for sure and been put on IR for the rest of the season.


Right Barb? :)
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
I think had he kept running he would have blown his ACL for sure and been put on IR for the rest of the season.


Right Barb? :)

:laugh2:

just for fun...here is Glenn right before he turns and suddenly stops.

http://img394.*************/img394/9167/glenn6pp.jpg

I still think he could have made it at least to the 5 considering the angle the second defender has. It doesn't matter much anyways, but a 73 yard TD would have looked real nice on Sportscenter.

:D
 

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jdub2k4 said:
:laugh2:

just for fun...here is Glenn right before he turns and suddenly stops.

http://img394.*************/img394/9167/glenn6pp.jpg

I still think he could have made it at least to the 5 considering the angle the second defender has. It doesn't matter much anyways, but a 73 yard TD would have looked real nice on Sportscenter.

:D

This is the post of the thread. I just watched it again, and TG would have scored with ease, I believe.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
I think had he kept running he would have blown his ACL for sure and been put on IR for the rest of the season.


Right Barb? :)
We were down 31 to 19 at the tail end of the third quarter, and he saw his only shot to make it all the way to the end zone was if he could cut inside. He was so close to the sideline that the angles of the two defenders could force him out of bounds with just tangential contact, so he tried to juke them both to a stop so he could cut inside.

Yah, he coulda gotten a few more yards had he kept running full speed, but I can't fault him for choosing the best potential route to six points. Not when we were down that much.

That's my take after watching the replay, which should hold at least as much water as the betting against his own team or the deliberately sabotaging fantasy footballer points or the he heard footsteps theories I've seen in the three threads that have discussed this since the game. :bang2:
 

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I think Glenn overestimated how close the defenders were. He should have gone full jet. But his move is instinctive and would have worked had defenders been on him. Terry is a tremendous receiver but he has a few odd traits. He does stuff like this and also jumps too much making catches sometimes.


All in all a great start to the season!
 

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I actually thought he pulled up lame at first. I about blew my lid when I seen him stop and try to keep running. We scored on that drive, so no big deal. He made, what he thought was the best decision......it all worked out in the end. Glenn was the reason we won this last weekend. No doubt about it. He's as much a playmaker as any WR in the NFL. I think he has a shot at going to the probowl actually, especially if Julius can get his wheels turning....this offense can do some damage once Julius shows up.

Not saying Julius has played poor...the big plays are no there for him yet. He's gaining the tough yards right now.
 

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Neither here nor there, but I think he had a great chance for a TD if he kept going. I remember watching the play and when he stopped I just started yelling "*** are you doing!!!" No big deal, it worked out at the end. I assume he just overestimated how close the defender was and was hoping to make the guy run right by him.
 

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We were down 31 to 19 at the tail end of the third quarter, and he saw his only shot to make it all the way to the end zone was if he could cut inside.
I agree about cutting inside, but he shoulda waited until the closest defender was right on top of him, then cut inside at the last possible moment. That would also have made the trailing defender have to adjust.

We all know Glenn also makes some strange unnecessary leaps at times, too.

It's kinda fun to second guess the league's 4th highest yardage receiver. :D


Edit: Also liked the way he took the helmet-to-helmet shot and held onto the ball on his second long catch.
 

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joseephuss said:
Fake out the guy or the shadow?


:D

I was yelling to my wife when he did that....If he just runs I think he scores or gets more yards than he did.

Oh well we scored so no biggie.
 

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percyhoward said:
I agree about cutting inside, but he shoulda waited until the closest defender was right on top of him, then cut inside at the last possible moment. That would also have made the trailing defender have to adjust.

We all know Glenn also makes some strange unnecessary leaps at times, too.

It's kinda fun to second guess the league's 4th highest yardage receiver. :D


Edit: Also liked the way he took the helmet-to-helmet shot and held onto the ball on his second long catch.

Yeah I noticed that too...If it would have been a quarterback they would have called it!
 

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jdub2k4 said:
:laugh2:

just for fun...here is Glenn right before he turns and suddenly stops.

http://img394.*************/img394/9167/glenn6pp.jpg

I still think he could have made it at least to the 5 considering the angle the second defender has. It doesn't matter much anyways, but a 73 yard TD would have looked real nice on Sportscenter.

:D

Nice post..Good pic....he would have scored!
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
We were down 31 to 19 at the tail end of the third quarter, and he saw his only shot to make it all the way to the end zone was if he could cut inside. He was so close to the sideline that the angles of the two defenders could force him out of bounds with just tangential contact, so he tried to juke them both to a stop so he could cut inside.

Yah, he coulda gotten a few more yards had he kept running full speed, but I can't fault him for choosing the best potential route to six points. Not when we were down that much.

That's my take after watching the replay, which should hold at least as much water as the betting against his own team or the deliberately sabotaging fantasy footballer points or the he heard footsteps theories I've seen in the three threads that have discussed this since the game. :bang2:

No, way. We all know you have a biased opinion with respect to Glenn. :p:
 

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Based on instantaneous velocities I calculated from the time that Glenn caught the ball to the time he planted his left foot to slow down, Parrish would not have caught Glenn if we assume that both are at top speed. In fact, Glenn, who was redirecting his momentum from the sidelines towards the endzone had more potential than Parrish to speed up given that Parrish was basically in a dead sprint trying to prevent the completion.

Rumph was already 4 yards behind Glenn when Glenn planted to stop, plus Rumph was about 20 yards towards the center of the field. If we assume that Rumph takes the angle to the 5 yard line, then by the Pythagorean theorem, we conclude that Rumph would have had to run about 40 yards in the same time that Glenn ran 31 yards. If we assume Glenn runs a 4.5 40, this means Rumph would have to run a 3.5 40 to catch Glenn. Angles only work when you are either upfield of or much faster than the guy you are trying to catch.

In short, it should have been a TD.
 

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kmd24 said:
Based on instantaneous velocities I calculated from the time that Glenn caught the ball to the time he planted his left foot to slow down, Parrish would not have caught Glenn if we assume that both are at top speed. In fact, Glenn, who was redirecting his momentum from the sidelines towards the endzone had more potential than Parrish to speed up given that Parrish was basically in a dead sprint trying to prevent the completion.

Rumph was already 4 yards behind Glenn when Glenn planted to stop, plus Rumph was about 20 yards towards the center of the field. If we assume that Rumph takes the angle to the 5 yard line, then by the Pythagorean theorem, we conclude that Rumph would have had to run about 40 yards in the same time that Glenn ran 31 yards. If we assume Glenn runs a 4.5 40, this means Rumph would have to run a 3.5 40 to catch Glenn. Angles only work when you are either upfield of or much faster than the guy you are trying to catch.

In short, it should have been a TD.

That's exactly how I had it calculated!



:D
 

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kmd24 said:
Based on instantaneous velocities I calculated from the time that Glenn caught the ball to the time he planted his left foot to slow down, Parrish would not have caught Glenn if we assume that both are at top speed. In fact, Glenn, who was redirecting his momentum from the sidelines towards the endzone had more potential than Parrish to speed up given that Parrish was basically in a dead sprint trying to prevent the completion.

Rumph was already 4 yards behind Glenn when Glenn planted to stop, plus Rumph was about 20 yards towards the center of the field. If we assume that Rumph takes the angle to the 5 yard line, then by the Pythagorean theorem, we conclude that Rumph would have had to run about 40 yards in the same time that Glenn ran 31 yards. If we assume Glenn runs a 4.5 40, this means Rumph would have to run a 3.5 40 to catch Glenn. Angles only work when you are either upfield of or much faster than the guy you are trying to catch.

In short, it should have been a TD.

LOL!!!!!!

You guys must have posters of Slide-rules pined up in your bedrooms.

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jay cee said:
Isn't it funny how people can look at the same thing and come to such different conclusions.

I didn't think there was any way that he could have scored by trying to outrun the defenders to the endzone.

I agree.

I and another Dallas fan in the sports bar got in a similar debate. The guy had the angle on Glenn, that's why Glenn pulled up. I think the runner is in a better position than the camera angle to determine whether he can outrun someone.

I trust Glenn knows whether he can outrun someone.
 

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I don't know how fast the CB SF has is but I don't consider Glenn to be slow. As BP put it, Glenn may have lost a step but he had a step to lose so.........
 

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joseephuss said:
No, way. We all know you have a biased opinion with respect to Glenn. :p:
No, I think I am fair assessing the performance of my favorite players. And I think the regulars here will back me up on that.

In fact, I go harder on them then on others, as I was after the Skins game by maintaining T did not have a very good game, as too many plays featuring him came to naught.

Bias, imo, is maintaining a player "actually" is trying to throw a game by not getting all the yards he can.

Outrageous bias, as a matter of fact.
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
No, I think I am fair assessing the performance of my favorite players. And I think the regulars here will back me up on that.

In fact, I go harder on them then on others, as I was after the Skins game by maintaining T did not have a very good game, as too many plays featuring him came to naught.

Bias, imo, is maintaining a player "actually" is trying to throw a game by not getting all the yards he can.

Outrageous bias, as a matter of fact.

LOL. Outrageous goes right along with being a fan-atic. :)
 
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