Why did we draft Marcus Spears

[Chocolate Lab]

That said when I'm comparing those numbers to other college defensive ends, they aren't especially great. So I still don't know if he warranted a first round grade, because some defensive ends in this upcoming draft have just as good numbers but seem like theyre projected for the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

Yes, at the time he absolutely did. I remember being incredibly worried that he wouldn't even make it to 20, because people thought he could go a lot higher than that. I was totally pumped when the teams before us passed on him.

 

[Galian Beast]

Man I would never draft a 3-4 DE in the 1st round...heck no! I know they are important in building a 3-4 defense but in the 1st round, you need to draft an impact maker who will either protect the QB or make their presence felt on the stat sheet. 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds are all prime to get a 3-4 DE...look at what we found with Jason Hatcher and Chris Canty (who was better than Spears)

THIS

 

[Galian Beast]

so you want poeple to go back and watch college film on a draft pick from years and years ago because you are too damned lazy and needed a reason to complain?

gotcha

Or maybe I was asking people who are more familiar with College Football, because I wanted to know if there was really any hype surrounding Marcus Spears...

or we can go with your theory...

 

[Four]

lets see, you start a negative thread about us giving up on amendola, you start a negative thread about how we never should have drafted spears.

And that is in one day.

I read enough of your dribble to know all your threads are like this.

Now, I would kindly ask you to add something about olives or you need to leave.

 

[Galian Beast]

Spears, like Bradie James in the past, is the dog that everyone loves to kick when they're mad, but he's been a Day 1 starter for going on 6 consecutive years for the Cowboys. Other players drafted in the first round that year who have either been busts or now working on their 2nd or 3rd teams are Alex Smith, Mike Williams, Matt Jones, Mark Clayton, Fabian Washington, Chris Spencer, Jason Campbell, Erasumus James, David Pollack, Troy Williamson, Alex Barron, Marlin Jackson, PacMan Jones, Cedric Benson, Braylon Edwards ... and that's not including players like Derrick Johnson, who are still with their teams, but only as backups. So yeah, I'll gladly take 6 consecutive years starting with the 20th pick in the draft.

The best 3-4 DE's of the decade, Aaron Smith and Richard Seymour, only average 4 sacks/year, so there's nothing outlandisly bad about Spears lack of sacks (especially since he's not even in nickel packages). Igor became the fan's darling last year and he provides even less pass rush than Spears and is a former 35th pick in the draft and was given $8 million guaranteed by the Cowboys. So if Spears is a huge underachiever, Igor is right behind (if not neck and neck).

Spears biggest problems have been mostly firvolous PR and perception ... mainly that he's always compared and overshadowed by draftmate DeMarcus Ware and the way he shot his mouth off about how Parcells was holding him back.

Im not really interested in signing him to a huge contract extension (unless Hatcher and Bowen don't step up this year), but to say the Cowboys could have done far worse with that pick is a huge understatement.

Igor Olshansky came in here and he was instantly much better than Marcus Spears.

Spears has also graded out as one of the worst starting 3-4 defensive ends through out his years as a starter.

Olshansky had 1 less sack than Spears, but still had more QB pressures. He was also MUCH better against the run.

I hope we draft Alualu or Ordick.

 

[Galian Beast]

lets see, you start a negative thread about us giving up on amendola, you start a negative thread about how we never should have drafted spears.

And that is in one day.

I read enough of your dribble to know all your threads are like this.

Now, I would kindly ask you to add something about olives or you need to leave.

I've seen you're post... all you do is troll. If you don't agree with someone why keep arguing with them that they're negative?

Stop drinking the cool aid. We've won 1 playoff game in 13 years...

 

[dbair1967]

Igor Olshansky came in here and he was instantly much better than Marcus Spears.

Spears has also graded out as one of the worst starting 3-4 defensive ends through out his years as a starter.

Olshansky had 1 less sack than Spears, but still had more QB pressures. He was also MUCH better against the run.

I hope we draft Alualu or Ordick.

Dude, just shut up. You are just spewing crap that you've made up.

 

[dbair1967]

Galian Beast;3340523 I've seen you're post... all you do is troll

Speaking of trolling.

 

[Galian Beast]

Dude, just shut up. You are just spewing crap that you've made up.

Check out pff for the last 3 years, although i think 2007 is incomplete. Even in his two best years that he has had (the last 2), he has still been bottom of the barrel.

 

[TNCowboy]

I don't think that Spears gets a lot of opportunities to make the kind of plays the average fan would notice. Strongside 3-4 DEs often don't, and I think the way Phillips plays him, even less so.

However, I think part of the reason Spears hasn't made a huge impact is his lack of conditioning. He always looks out of shape.

As for why he was a 1st rounder, he was a tremendous college football player. There aren't many 300lbers that are better athletes than Spears. He just has never taken that big leap forward.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Black olives are cooked. Green olives are raw.

Green olives and black olives start out as the same fruit, but they're processed differently. Black olive processing includes cooking. They save themselves time and effort by cooking them directly in the can, which is something you have to do anyway with canned objects, to kill all of the bacteria that might grow inside. In the process, it breaks up a lot of the bitter compounds, which is why black olives are so sweet.

Green olives are treated, but not cooked. There is a processing treatment that goes on in the jars to kill bacteria, but the temperature isn't as high or as long as for black olives. Glass wouldn't withstand the processing applied to black olives, so they use metal cans instead.

But jars are prettier, and they get to show off the olives inside. It's more effective marketing. Some green olive jars are "placed", which means the olives are neatly arranged. Others are "thrown", which is not as pretty, but less time consuming to make.

There are other ways to make black olives that don't involve cooking them. Kalamata olives and salt-cured olives are both black because of the way they're cured, but not cooked. They're generally sold in jars.

 

[hornitosmonster]

My understanding is that Parcells wanted Spears. In fact, he wanted to draft him over Ware. Jerry, based on the scouts' input, took Ware first. With the second first rounder, Dallas then took Spears, since Parcells' guy was still there.

That is my understanding as well. Yes, the all knowing Bill Parcells wanted to take Spears over Ware

 

[Hostile]

I've seen you're post... all you do is troll. If you don't agree with someone why keep arguing with them that they're negative?

Stop drinking the cool aid. We've won 1 playoff game in 13 years...

Actually we've won 1 playoff game in the last year, but it is irrelevant to the topic of olives.

 

[CowboyMike]

He was a great player at LSU. Played DE in a 4-3 at 300lbs, but still showed enough quickness that 4-3 teams did give him looks going into the draft.

46 tackles, 16 quarterback pressures, 3.5 tackles for losses and three sacks as a sophomore

49 tackles, 23 quarterback pressures, 13 tackles for losses, six sacks and six passes defensed as a junior

49 tackles, 21 quarterback pressures, 17 tackles for losses, and nine sacks as a senior

He had good measurables, but never was able to reach this level in the NFL

Put Spears in a 4-3, and he'll probably put up those numbers.

He plays 3-4 defensive end, people! Stop comparing him to a 4-3 end or a 3-4 OLB. He's not. The best comparison would probably be, say, another 3-4 end or a 4-3 defensive tackle.

Pass rushing is not in his job description. He is supposed to pave the way for Spencer to get to the quarterback, in other words, hold up blockers so Spence can get free. He does that job very very well. Any time you see a Spencer sack, give some credit to Spears, because he had a hand in it. Plus he's an excellent run stopper, which is the other part of his job description.

 

[zrinkill]

Stop drinking the cool aid. We've won 1 playoff game in 13 years...

And there it is.

 

[Hostile]

Black olives are cooked. Green olives are raw.

Green olives and black olives start out as the same fruit, but they're processed differently. Black olive processing includes cooking. They save themselves time and effort by cooking them directly in the can, which is something you have to do anyway with canned objects, to kill all of the bacteria that might grow inside. In the process, it breaks up a lot of the bitter compounds, which is why black olives are so sweet.

Green olives are treated, but not cooked. There is a processing treatment that goes on in the jars to kill bacteria, but the temperature isn't as high or as long as for black olives. Glass wouldn't withstand the processing applied to black olives, so they use metal cans instead.

But jars are prettier, and they get to show off the olives inside. It's more effective marketing. Some green olive jars are "placed", which means the olives are neatly arranged. Others are "thrown", which is not as pretty, but less time consuming to make.

There are other ways to make black olives that don't involve cooking them. Kalamata olives and salt-cured olives are both black because of the way they're cured, but not cooked. They're generally sold in jars.

I have read this 5 straight times just because it is so awesome.

 

[zrinkill]

Stop drinking the cool aid. We've won 1 playoff game in 13 years...

What happened to this guy?

This team has been productive since 2006.

Our team was destroyed in the salary cap era. We haven't won a playoff game in twelve years? Sure this is true, but that has no bearing on this years team, or even the teams in the last couple years.

Did you fall and hit your head?

 

[Biggems]

All i know is, if my house were on fire, the first thing I would save would be the bacon.....second would be my 20 or so cans of black olives. I love black olives, but hate green olives.

 

[Biggems]

I wonder if Marcus is related to Britney, they are both from Louisiana.....how many Spears can there be?

At any rate, Pickle Spears received a first round grade cause that little white stork said so.

 

[Biggems]

Movin to the country
gonna eat me some black olives
Movin to the country
gonna eat me some black olives
Olives come from a can
they were put there by a man
in a factory downtown
If I had my little way
Id eat black olives everyday


BTW, who else likes to by the jumbo olives and wear them on the tips of their fingers, dip em one by one into ranch dressing and eat them till all 10 are gone, then do it again? So what if I am in my 30s, I am still a kid at heart.