Why do we pretend? (Wade)

[casmith07]

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[Doomsday101]

I just don't see the difference between Wade and say, Andy Reid.....or Tony Dungy (whose team had quite a few players with some off the field issues). I think the team genuinely likes him. Obviously, the defensive players like him because he's a great defensive coach. I think the offense likes him because he gives Garrett and the coaches a great deal of freedom. I like Parcells, but he didn't give the players a lot of freedom on either side of the ball as he always strived to minimize mistakes. Wade doesn't want a ton of mistakes, but if he can exchange a few more mistakes at the expense of making a lot more big plays, he'll likely do it. Players like that and they usually respond to that.

Last year Wade promised he would be tougher on the team. Even Bradie James doubted it. But in the end everybody said he was tougher on the team and it paid dividends, getting the team a playoff victory for the first time in a long, long time. Even the 'leader' and 'disciplinarian' Parcells couldn't do that.

I think he absolutely plays a role in the 53 man roster, if anything because he's the guy that runs the defense which effects the outlook of the special teams players and thus who we select on offense. Good leaders are good at delegating authority. Wade didn't make his bones in this league as an offensive minded coach, so he is smart enough not to try and take over the offense. Just like Andy Reid being smart enough to not try and take over the Eagles' defense.




YR

True but I will say he has an understanding of the offense as a DC you make your living off understanding of offense as it is up to you to be able to attack it. Hard to attack what you do not understand.

 

[elcowboi]

I honestly believe that if a person doesn't want to believe Phillips is the head coach then nothing anyone else says will make them think otherwise.

 

[baj1dallas]

Would he have the authority to do what Shanahan has done with a mega star player, Haynesworth? ...Not that he would have done it...would he have had the authority to do it?

No he wouldn't, but not coach here would, nor is any coach ever going to. Nor do most coaches in the league.

 

[jterrell]

good lord....

why pretend this thread is serious?

all owners have say over all their employees.
GMs have say on personnel over coaches unless they are one and the same.

real offensive coordinators always have offensive say because they set up gameplans and call plays. wade suggested dan reeves as offensive liaison and was close to getting him until jerry and dan couldn't agree on the commitment. ((no one else has gotten him committed to them either))

wade isn't the emotional leader but his guy Brooking is. thats eerily similar to the way BP did things....

 

[Hostile]

I honestly believe that if a person doesn't want to believe Phillips is the head coach then nothing anyone else says will make them think otherwise.

Hard to argue with you on this at all. It seems like some people are convinced in their own minds of some kind of puppet regime here. It's amazing we win any games and find any talent if we have one of those.

For some reason they can never explain that away.

 

[NextGenBoys]

OK...so what does partial control mean?

Do you think behind closed doors he's deciding whether Columbo plays or doesn't? Whether the team will try a flea-flicker to open the game? On the type of team discipline the Cowboys use when Bennett gets out of line?

Would he have the authority to do what Shanahan has done with a mega star player, Haynesworth? ...Not that he would have done it...would he have had the authority to do it?

Yes to all of that.

And if you think otherwise, I question your knowledge of sports in general.

He's the freaking head coach. You guys need to get out of this public perception mode and step back and realize he's the head coach.

 

[windjc]

Anybody who has been married...or single...can speak of BOTH the joys and torments of either state.

Some fans express themselves by ignoring or denying any criticism of their team. They focus almost exclusively on the happy or hopeful things.

About 50% of fans, however, are at times frustrated and utilize their freedom to express those frustrations.

I can't help how I feel. I was so hopeful 5 weeks ago, but I'll confess I'm not in good football spirits right now.

I think Jones has improved as a GM over the past ten years, but I sure wish he'd hand off his duties to a dedicated football guru.

Who cares what you "think"?
Who cares what you "feel"?

No one.

So you are insecure about Wade, this football team, and this season. So what? The rest of us could care less. Those are your insecurities, you should deal with them yourself. We aren't your therapist.

Just because you got demons in your head about how Jerry and Wade "appear" isn't important to anyone except you. Be a man and deal with it privately.

Although it seems like reality to you, it isn't reality outside your mind. Once you realize this and quit trying to validate it from outside sources by starting threads like this, the better it will be for you.

 

[Mash]

I just don't see the difference between Wade and say, Andy Reid.....or Tony Dungy (whose team had quite a few players with some off the field issues). I think the team genuinely likes him. Obviously, the defensive players like him because he's a great defensive coach. I think the offense likes him because he gives Garrett and the coaches a great deal of freedom. I like Parcells, but he didn't give the players a lot of freedom on either side of the ball as he always strived to minimize mistakes. Wade doesn't want a ton of mistakes, but if he can exchange a few more mistakes at the expense of making a lot more big plays, he'll likely do it. Players like that and they usually respond to that.

Last year Wade promised he would be tougher on the team. Even Bradie James doubted it. But in the end everybody said he was tougher on the team and it paid dividends, getting the team a playoff victory for the first time in a long, long time. Even the 'leader' and 'disciplinarian' Parcells couldn't do that.

I think he absolutely plays a role in the 53 man roster, if anything because he's the guy that runs the defense which effects the outlook of the special teams players and thus who we select on offense. Good leaders are good at delegating authority. Wade didn't make his bones in this league as an offensive minded coach, so he is smart enough not to try and take over the offense. Just like Andy Reid being smart enough to not try and take over the Eagles' defense.




YR

Nice post......

It was Johnson's defence.....Reid had no part of it and Reid is considered a great HC....even tho he has never won a SB and has had one of the most talented teams every year for the last decade.

But Wade isnt a HC....because he is just a DC

Weird....

Great HC have very good Assistants.....Big Bill won nothing without Bellicheat......Jimmy won nothing without Norv....

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I knew at least oone moron would lack the ability to engage in an honest discussion of the topic w/out this mindless crap.

Get over it. There is a cadre of Church ladys here at the Zone that does not want to discuss certain things.
Anything they differ against is verboten here. Things we dare not speak of.
The Church Ladies are intent of stifling dissent and creating a Zone that is lemming-like, marching to the cadence of, heh-heh, of vanilla views and mundane ideology. How many times can you say Go Cowboys! How many times can you kneel at the shrine of Brooking and how many times can you say Wade is a defensive genius even after the Vikes put 34 points into our scheme to end our season?

Get used to it. These Church Ladies will want to stifle any comment that is not bland, staid or vanilla bean extract.

 

[Anjinsan]

First of all let me say that none of what I'm about to mention is a criticism of Coach Phillips, nor is it an implied argument that he should lose his job... (I think he should keep it.)

Indeed, my question is centrally about the true nature of the job Mr. Phillips currently has with the Cowboys.

I guess I have a thing about being....honest....authentic. So on to my question...



Why do we pretend that Wade is the head coach of the Cowboys?

Does anyone honestly think Wade has any tangible say regarding the personnel, philosophy or play calling of the offense?

Doesn't DeCamillis have full reign of special teams?

Does Wade's voice have any pull when it comes to personnel decisions outside of his defense?

Is Phillips the team disciplinarian? Emotional leader? Fulcrum?

Is he the ultimate guy who determines game-day rosters?

Functionally, how is Wade anything more than an [edit] defensive coordinator?

Why are you asking such garbage during Washington week 1?

 

[DallasEast]

Get over it. There is a cadre of Church ladys here at the Zone that does not want to discuss certain things.
Anything they differ against is verboten here. Things we dare not speak of.
The Church Ladies are intent of stifling dissent and creating a Zone that is lemming-like, marching to the cadence of, heh-heh, of vanilla views and mundane ideology. How many times can you say Go Cowboys! How many times can you kneel at the shrine of Brooking and how many times can you say Wade is a defensive genius even after the Vikes put 34 points into our scheme to end our season?

Get used to it. These Church Ladies will want to stifle any comment that is not bland, staid or vanilla bean extract.

I am not certain what the Guinness world record is, but Edward R. Murrow has been spinning in his grave nonstop since October 2006.

"Church Ladies". Dana Carvey should sue.

 

[ZeroClub]

First of all let me say that none of what I'm about to mention is a criticism of Coach Phillips, nor is it an implied argument that he should lose his job... (I think he should keep it.)

Indeed, my question is centrally about the true nature of the job Mr. Phillips currently has with the Cowboys.

I guess I have a thing about being....honest....authentic. So on to my question...



Why do we pretend that Wade is the head coach of the Cowboys?

Does anyone honestly think Wade has any tangible say regarding the personnel, philosophy or play calling of the offense?

Doesn't DeCamillis have full reign of special teams?

Does Wade's voice have any pull when it comes to personnel decisions outside of his defense?

Is Phillips the team disciplinarian? Emotional leader? Fulcrum?

Is he the ultimate guy who determines game-day rosters?

Functionally, how is Wade anything more than an [edit] defensive coordinator?

You are late by at least a year with this post.

What you are saying is no longer so applicable. With time, Wade has won Jerry's trust and respect. As a result Wade has more power than he used to.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I am not certain what the Guinness world record is, but Edward R. Murrow has been spinning in his grave nonstop since October 2006.

"Church Ladies". Dana Carvey should sue.

Murrow lives!

And the Church Lady/Ladies is under public domain, thank you.

 

[zrinkill]

I am not certain what the Guinness world record is, but Edward R. Murrow has been spinning in his grave nonstop since October 2006.

"Church Ladies". Dana Carvey should sue.

Stop quoting trolls ......

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

And, like magic, the head Church Lady (scarf boy) shows up.

Interesting how he trolls the threads to show up with his sunny-side up disposition.

If the Head Church Lady's opinion differs, he will do anything he can to stifle dissent. Well, Church Lady/Scarf Boy, aint one one gonna put the muzzle on ol' gimmetheball. If I give you a feeling of insecurity or anger or Chuch Lady
angst, TOUGH SCHLITZ!!!!!!!

Deal with it. Put on your little red had and your little red scarf and go off somewhere until you feel better. Or at least capable of discussing instead of just dissing.

You really are a work of art, Church Lady/Scarf Boy.

 

[DallasEast]

Murrow lives!

Not through you he ain't.

And the Church Lady/Ladies is under public domain, thank you.

Dang. You are right.

Can he come sit down beside you and just stare at you instead?

 

[NextGenBoys]

Get over it. There is a cadre of Church ladys here at the Zone that does not want to discuss certain things.
Anything they differ against is verboten here. Things we dare not speak of.
The Church Ladies are intent of stifling dissent and creating a Zone that is lemming-like, marching to the cadence of, heh-heh, of vanilla views and mundane ideology. How many times can you say Go Cowboys! How many times can you kneel at the shrine of Brooking and how many times can you say Wade is a defensive genius even after the Vikes put 34 points into our scheme to end our season?

Get used to it. These Church Ladies will want to stifle any comment that is not bland, staid or vanilla bean extract.

I suggest you watch that game again, and you might realize the opinion you're implying might be a little out of whack.

Our defense played very well despite what the scoreboard says.

 

[sonnyboy]

I honestly believe that if a person doesn't want to believe Phillips is the head coach then nothing anyone else says will make them think otherwise.

No but we can let him know we don't agree.

I honestly don't believe the OP believes his own BS. It's just a troll **** stirring thread. And by every single poster letting him know what an *** he is, the thread becomes one big fail.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I suggest you watch that game again, and you might realize the opinion you're implying might be a little out of whack.

Our defense played very well despite what the scoreboard says.

Yes, 34 points against your defense is acceptable. In some worlds.