Why does no one care more that Noah Brown is No. 2 WR

[conner01]

No way to know what?

That Gallup won’t be 100% all year
Players have came back sooner and done well
He may not be 100% to start and he needs to gain confidence in his knee but he can be the same player very soon. We just have to see

 

[Blast From The Past]

Going into the season already thin at wr and with injury issues doesn't build confidence. But even if gallup returns quickly and stays healthy that is only 2 experienced guys that Dak has a decent report with. Then you factor in the OL taking 1 step back....maybe more? Down the stretch last season the passing game struggled, i'm not seeing any corrections made to fix it this year. They had better solve that run game cause if zeke doesn't start like he did last year....there will be a lot of complaining from everyone.

Maybe this offense goes another way this season. With the run game being the main focus. If it works so be it but if not what is their backup plan? ^That's my problem with the Jerry and Stephen show is that they don't really seem to have a real planned out strategy going into this season.

 

[charron]

Maybe this offense goes another way this season. With the run game being the main focus. If it works so be it but if not what is their backup plan? ^That's my problem with the Jerry and Stephen show is that they don't really seem to have a real planned out strategy going into this season.

That is the hope and they hope the run game doesn't fade like it did last year. Maybe they will give Pollard more than 3 carries a game, contract year for him let him go earn big bucks in free agency or trade him before the deadline.

 

[xwalker]

I don’t feel there’s been enough attention to Noah Brown being the No. 2 WR to start the season. He averaged 25 snaps per game last year in 12 games and that was with 111 taking place between the Chiefs and Raider games when everyone was down (we saw how well those games went).

Of those snaps I’d bet half were on special teams.

Rolling out Brown and relying on Gallup to be the savior when healthy is the same thing they tried with Tyron. Gallup had injury issues everywhere last year which is why there was no competition to sign him.

To me this shows Jerry and Stephen are hedging their bets with McCarthy to justify bringing in Sean. If they win and have to keep McCarthy - great. If they go 9-8 and first round exit (or worse) - bring in Sean who will magically fix everything. Which is stupidity for so many reasons.

But back to the premise, Noah Brown is AWFUL as the No. 2 even if it’s just for the opener which 105.3 thinks it is. They feel Gallup is back for Cincy.

You started a thread with an emphasis on snaps/stats but you don't actually know the snaps/stats...

• Noah Brown in 2021:
  • Played 13 games.
  • Of those 13 games, he played 303 snaps which was 33% of the total offensive snaps for those 13 games.
  • He played 179 snaps on Special Teams which was 48%.

• Using Cooper only for reference. Obviously Cooper had far more targets.
  • Yards per Reception
    • Cooper: 12.7
    • Brown: 11.5
  • Catch Percentage
    • Cooper: 65.40%
    • Brown: 64.00%
  • Yards per Target
    • Cooper: 8.3
    • Brown: 7.4

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Oooo.....lots of smilie facepalms. You are very convincing! Here...have a internet smart guy cookie!

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

You started a thread with an emphasis on snaps/stats but you don't actually know the snaps/stats...

• Noah Brown in 2021:
  • Played 13 games.
  • Of those 13 games, he played 303 snaps which was 33% of the total offensive snaps for those 13 games.
  • He played 179 snaps on Special Teams which was 48%.

• Using Cooper only for reference. Obviously Cooper had far more targets.
  • Yards per Reception
    • Cooper: 12.7
    • Brown: 11.5
  • Catch Percentage
    • Cooper: 65.40%
    • Brown: 64.00%
  • Yards per Target
    • Cooper: 8.3
    • Brown: 7.4

Hmmm....

 

[Parcells4Life]

Apparently you missed him in the NE game. How he gave us 2 critical 1st downs. a 3rd and 18, he got us 20 yards, and another similar 3rd and long.
What does this have to do with MM vs. SP?

You have no idea how Brown will be.

He’s been in the league how many years? Guys don’t magically just appear on the scene for the first time in 5-6 years after being afterthoughts for the majority of their career.

 

[plasticman]

The #2, #3, and #4 receivers in the first quarter of this season won't be a WR. They will come from the RB's and TE's.

It's not unusual. During all three Super Bowl seasons in the 90's the WR with the 2nd most receptions was actually ranked 4th or 5th behind Irvin, Novacek, Emmitt, and/or Johnston.

What Brown brings is a superior run blocker at the WR position, something the Cowboys are definitely going to need in the 1st quarter of the season as the revamped O-line and rookie TE's find their way.

 

[plasticman]

He’s been in the league how many years? Guys don’t magically just appear on the scene for the first time in 5-6 years after being afterthoughts for the majority of their career.

It's not magic, it's experience and incremental improvement through studying and hard work. (see Dorance Armstrong and Dalton Schultz).

 

[Jumbo075]

Cowboys Zone needs to keep a tally of the Sean Payton next Dallas Cowboys HC crowd - so we others can "praise" their prophesy in January.

Sean Payton will NEVER be the Head Coach for the Dallas Cowboys. Get over it.

 

[Mannix]

Oooo.....lots of smilie facepalms. You are very convincing! Here...have a internet smart guy cookie!

Um....ok.....thanks

 

[Parcells4Life]

It's not magic, it's experience and incremental improvement through studying and hard work. (see Dorance Armstrong and Dalton Schultz).

They both made an impact in year 3 which coaches always say is the year you need to make the jump. Not year 5-6. He’s not going to magically put up 600-750 yards when he has 425 total yards for the first 5 years combined.

He’s been an afterthought for 2 coaching staffs. He’s a little more than the Luke Gifford of offense. Great on special teams. Can play in spots if needed. Nowhere near deserving of being a starter to open the season.

 

[Parcells4Life]

The #2, #3, and #4 receivers in the first quarter of this season won't be a WR. They will come from the RB's and TE's.

It's not unusual. During all three Super Bowl seasons in the 90's the WR with the 2nd most receptions was actually ranked 4th or 5th behind Irvin, Novacek, Emmitt, and/or Johnston.

What Brown brings is a superior run blocker at the WR position, something the Cowboys are definitely going to need in the 1st quarter of the season as the revamped O-line and rookie TE's find their way.

Noah Brown is no Alvin Harper.

 

[kskboys]

If adequate is zero TD's in 50 games played, then you are dead on correct.

If you judge a player only on TD's scored, then your analyses will be flawed.

 

[ChronicCowboy]

This theme of xxx player is horrible and Jerry is playing him to make sure McCarthy fails so they can bring in Peyton is ludicrous and not sure why it keeps popping up.

It’s not that Jerry wants to lose but he is setting the roster up for major turnover. Rather than using our available resources to shore up positions, he’s clearly prioritizing flexibility. It’s easy to speculate that he’s ready to move on from MM, given the team doesn’t meet unrealistic expectations.

 

[Motorola]

Sean Payton will NEVER be the Head Coach for the Dallas Cowboys. Get over it.

Noting to "get over it" for me , Jumbo075 - I'm not with that crowd.
But others here at CZ feel it will happen.

 

[Pass2Run]

Noah Brown has done a lot of the “dirty work” (blocking, special teams…), and to my knowledge has improved every year he’s been in the league. I’ve never heard a negative word from a coach or another player regarding his contributions. I’m happy for the guy and hope he gets a chance to receive some targets and show what he can do. This is his opportunity while Gallup recovers and Tolbert continues to grow. If you have ever played the game, you understand the importance of guys like this. Brown is 100% part of this team and to my knowledge has earned every opportunity he’s been given. I’m rooting for him.

I'm rooting for him too.

Wanna see him get 600 yards this year.

 

[quickccc]

Until we are able to bring (at ease) Gallup back into the fold, it looks like we'll do the No.2 WR role by committee.

Mostly Brown (sigh) .. then maybe some Simi, .then a handful of rookie Tolbert
I expect
.
- Noah is only gonna give us that usual 6-7 yard hitch pass catch, provided he can hold onto to the catches.
For all the rah rah in camp, we've seen what limits he has and all he has to offer .

- Defenses and CBs are not gonna have to be worried and pre-occupied with a Noah Brown, that's just a body for the sake of having a body.
And of course we're not near as frightening loaded at WR this point last year, when we had Cooper, Lamb, and Gallup.

- And who saw Cedrick Wilson really emerging while filling in for an injured Gallup ?
Who can be that Cedrick Wilson this very year ?

 

[pansophy]

You started a thread with an emphasis on snaps/stats but you don't actually know the snaps/stats...

• Noah Brown in 2021:
  • Played 13 games.
  • Of those 13 games, he played 303 snaps which was 33% of the total offensive snaps for those 13 games.
  • He played 179 snaps on Special Teams which was 48%.

• Using Cooper only for reference. Obviously Cooper had far more targets.
  • Yards per Reception
    • Cooper: 12.7
    • Brown: 11.5
  • Catch Percentage
    • Cooper: 65.40%
    • Brown: 64.00%
  • Yards per Target
    • Cooper: 8.3
    • Brown: 7.4

This and we are committed to Gallup long term whether he is 100% this year or not. The front office had all of this information when they let Cooper go so if they were concerned about this scenario they would have held onto him. I just feel like we have enough weapons -- I'm way more worried about whether Dak will have time to throw to them.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I don’t feel there’s been enough attention to Noah Brown being the No. 2 WR to start the season. He averaged 25 snaps per game last year in 12 games and that was with 111 taking place between the Chiefs and Raider games when everyone was down (we saw how well those games went).

Of those snaps I’d bet half were on special teams.

Rolling out Brown and relying on Gallup to be the savior when healthy is the same thing they tried with Tyron. Gallup had injury issues everywhere last year which is why there was no competition to sign him.

To me this shows Jerry and Stephen are hedging their bets with McCarthy to justify bringing in Sean. If they win and have to keep McCarthy - great. If they go 9-8 and first round exit (or worse) - bring in Sean who will magically fix everything. Which is stupidity for so many reasons.

But back to the premise, Noah Brown is AWFUL as the No. 2 even if it’s just for the opener which 105.3 thinks it is. They feel Gallup is back for Cincy.

because he isn’t.