Why does no one care more that Noah Brown is No. 2 WR

[kskboys]

I don’t think JJ loves Big Mac. But I also don’t think he would sabotage him either.

What I think is even more far fetched is the pipe dream that Sean Payton is headed to Big D next year. He’s used to being a real NFL HC who has control of the locker room and a huge say in personnel. Unless JJ changes how he operates I can’t see Payton agreeing to come to the big top circus. Anyone think that’s going to happen?

I think Payton retired because he didn't want to coach anymore and has no intention of coming back.

 

[Runwildboys]

The real question is not whether the Cowboys have enough weapons to run a nice ball control offense. I think they easily do.

3 questions for me for the offense

1. can the line make holes with McG at G ?
2. Can the offense remain penalty free that is required for ball control drives?
3. Is Moore creative enough to use the short weapons he has?

I am not as worried about protection because I think they stick to a ton of short stuff.

I think they're better equipped for the run game than the passing game, and if they run first and run well, it'll help the passing game tremendously.

 

[blueblood70]

Turpin has never caught a pass in the NFL. He's not ahead of Brown at this point.

he actiually is

100%, no doubt in the plans for a much bigger role then you all think..dont care where he came from, hes bene in a pro and semi pro leagues year-round and is ahead of any rookies or a player like Brown. his speed alone makes him more important front the slot.

 

[kskboys]

I think they're better equipped for the run game than the passing game, and if they run first and run well, it'll help the passing game tremendously.

As it always does!!!!!!

I honestly don't believe most comprehend how much the running game helps the passing game. Basically, the pass rushers can't just go, they must hesitate to make sure the run doesn't go right by them. That gives the QB an extra second, which can be an eternity in the NFL.

 

[kskboys]

he actiually is

100%, no doubt in the plans for a much bigger role then you all think..dont care where he came from, hes bene in a pro and semi pro leagues year-round and is ahead of any rookies or a player like Brown. his speed alone makes him more important front the slot.

No, he's not. Brown is a #2WR, Turpin is a slot WR. They don't even play the same position.

 

[Runwildboys]

he actiually is

100%, no doubt in the plans for a much bigger role then you all think..dont care where he came from, hes bene in a pro and semi pro leagues year-round and is ahead of any rookies or a player like Brown. his speed alone makes him more important front the slot.

I like Turbo, but throwing to him is a very tight window compared to Brown. I wouldn't expect him to be used on offense all that much, though when he's on the field, I look for some end arounds, maybe double reverse, and screens.

 

[Kingofholland]

I don’t feel there’s been enough attention to Noah Brown being the No. 2 WR to start the season. He averaged 25 snaps per game last year in 12 games and that was with 111 taking place between the Chiefs and Raider games when everyone was down (we saw how well those games went).

Of those snaps I’d bet half were on special teams.

Rolling out Brown and relying on Gallup to be the savior when healthy is the same thing they tried with Tyron. Gallup had injury issues everywhere last year which is why there was no competition to sign him.

To me this shows Jerry and Stephen are hedging their bets with McCarthy to justify bringing in Sean. If they win and have to keep McCarthy - great. If they go 9-8 and first round exit (or worse) - bring in Sean who will magically fix everything. Which is stupidity for so many reasons.

But back to the premise, Noah Brown is AWFUL as the No. 2 even if it’s just for the opener which 105.3 thinks it is. They feel Gallup is back for Cincy.

I think there's been plenty of discussion regarding the state of the WR position. Any Cowboys fan would be lying if they told you they felt great about the position. However, I still feel better about the room than I did at the start of the 2018 season where we asked Beasley, a rookie Gallup, Allen Hurns, and Blake Jarwin/Swain to emerge as the number 1. Ceedee and Schultz are essentially our top 2 receivers and we're asking some combo of Brown, Fehoko, Tolbert, and Houston to play a role as a 3rd receiver through the first few weeks of the season. Not the most ideal, but the Cowboys aren't the first team to deal with injuries and have to plug in some unknowns.

In regards to Gallup, he was re-signed March 13th, while free agency started March 16th(March 14th tampering period) so the fact there was no competition had nothing to do with other teams lack of interest in him .

 

[bonafidebanter]

No way to know that

No way to know what?

 

[Mannix]

------I don’t feel there’s been enough attention to Noah Brown being the No. 2 WR to start the season.

Holy S man....I've been talking non stop about this fraud for 3 years....where u been son???

 

[blueblood70]

No, he's not. Brown is a #2WR, Turpin is a slot WR. They don't even play the same position.

right because you've seen the offense run, odd, i haven't as 2022 game 1 is aways away. we don't know the gameplans are any strategy, i just see speed and a guy who can be weapon.

both will be an option and I SAY Turpin will be much more targeted and a bigger producer.

 

[RonnieT24]

???
Newton was starting by his 2nd year
Tuinei in his 2nd year after being swung to OL or his 4th year in
Bates was starting by his 4th. Wasnt Bates in almost every game. He wasnt starting after 3 years of being a starter but still in almost every game. If he wasnt nickel he was backing up safties

I'll bet u a $1.
Noah Brown doesnt finish as our #2 receiver or start more than 6 games. As a receiver he's JAG, a roster spot waste

No one is touting that Brown will finish as the #2 receiver.. In fact I doubt he finishes in the top 5. That's not the point. The point is that the sky isn't falling if he has to start a couple of games. He can play his role and that will work for us. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[charron]

It is a new year, new season but we saw this script one time before and it was ugly. Trade for Cooper bailed out the Cowboys. Do we have the horsepower to overcome the deficit this season or do we trade our next seasons one for another rental? I for one hope we overcome and don't have to go that route again. But interesting to watch indeed.

Going into the season already thin at wr and with injury issues doesn't build confidence. But even if gallup returns quickly and stays healthy that is only 2 experienced guys that Dak has a decent report with. Then you factor in the OL taking 1 step back....maybe more? Down the stretch last season the passing game struggled, i'm not seeing any corrections made to fix it this year. They had better solve that run game cause if zeke doesn't start like he did last year....there will be a lot of complaining from everyone.

 

[kskboys]

No one is touting that Brown will finish as the #2 receiver.. In fact I doubt he finishes in the top 5. That's not the point. The point is that the sky isn't falling if he has to start a couple of games. He can play his role and that will work for us. Nothing more, nothing less.

Well said. He's adequate as a 2.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

sometimes you have to move on. Landry use to cut players like this that couldnt make it after 3 years. There wasnt one player he regretting cutting after 3 years.
Bet you were saying the same thing with Garrett.
Why will Brown get any better this year when hes done nothing for 3 years. We're wasting our time with him. Making him the #2 is comical. I'd rather pick up someone with talent that another team dropped yesterday or move another receiver up than give the position to a player that has proved for 3 years he cant do it.
sorry-just not into this giving 4th, 5th, 6th chances. We did it with Garret 9 times. it doesnt work

I bet I said nothing about Garrett.....nice try.

It's my opinion that we haven;t used him right.

It's likely one of us will be right and one of us will be wrong. When I am unsre...I;d prefer to be postive and cheer the guy one. It seems it's finally his time to prove himself.

I don't think being negative, claiming failure... in an uncertain issue makes you cool or smart. You do. Cool.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

No one is touting that Brown will finish as the #2 receiver.. In fact I doubt he finishes in the top 5. That's not the point. The point is that the sky isn't falling if he has to start a couple of games. He can play his role and that will work for us. Nothing more, nothing less.

There you go.

He's a backup/ST...forced into a role because of roster change and injuries. Here we sit arguing about like idiots.

 

[Mannix]

Lots of guys take 6 years to develop…..

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Post of the day

 

[Mannix]

Dallas has yet to feature Noah and his skill set. I am not convinced they are capable. Give him those "possession" plays...and find him in the endzone. I'm telling ya...if they can do that Noah will perform well in #2.

 

[Rockport]

I don’t feel there’s been enough attention to Noah Brown being the No. 2 WR to start the season. He averaged 25 snaps per game last year in 12 games and that was with 111 taking place between the Chiefs and Raider games when everyone was down (we saw how well those games went).

Of those snaps I’d bet half were on special teams.

Rolling out Brown and relying on Gallup to be the savior when healthy is the same thing they tried with Tyron. Gallup had injury issues everywhere last year which is why there was no competition to sign him.

To me this shows Jerry and Stephen are hedging their bets with McCarthy to justify bringing in Sean. If they win and have to keep McCarthy - great. If they go 9-8 and first round exit (or worse) - bring in Sean who will magically fix everything. Which is stupidity for so many reasons.

But back to the premise, Noah Brown is AWFUL as the No. 2 even if it’s just for the opener which 105.3 thinks it is. They feel Gallup is back for Cincy.

Here we go again with the nonsense. Jerry’s not a great GM but if you think he’s intentionally tanking to get Payton you’re cuckoo.

 

[Mannix]

Well said. He's adequate as a 2.

If adequate is zero TD's in 50 games played, then you are dead on correct.

 

[CouchCoach]

Brown is considered the best blocking WR on the team.

Do you really think the Joneses give this that much thought? Do they need to try and run a set up to fire McC?

If they did, what kind of HC do you think you are going to get then? One dumb enough not to see they set up their own HC to fail?

I think some look a little too deep for explanation for management other than just flat inadequate for the job.