Why Does Tony Romo Have Leverage Over Anyone?

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DFWJC;5028720 said:
In all of my years watching sports, this really has been one of the oddest perception vs reality things I've ever seen.

I've said it before; his screwup plays count 10x his good plays to some.

The Washington game is a great for his detractors to use of him making some bad plays, but even it can be comical how extreme some get.
I mean it reminds me of the old Monty Python scene where the guy is protecting the bridge and the keep taking stuff away (bodyparts in this case) but expecting the same results.

In Washington--especially on that last drive--you've already taken away:
the running game
any remote abiltiy to protect the QB
then Miles Austin
then Dez Bryant
then Dwayne Harris

LOL...you can't make this stuff up! It's like he was alone vs Washington..like some cartoon or something.

But they still think he should just drive them down the field (like, by the way, he had done the last 5 straight games either to win the game or tie it in the 4th quarter).
They fail. He fails. They do get a TD pass and 2 pt conversion right before then. Then next drive he hits Witten for 1st down. But next play he makes a bad play. Int.
The defense gives up a long scoring to drive to seal it.
But no...this game is all on Romo..HE blew the whole game.
Dumbfounding

You're acting like that was the first time he'd been in situations like that.
He was clearly outplayed by Griffin that day simply by the fact that Griffin made less mistakes.
 

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Romo has leverage because he is leaps and bounds better than anyone else we could acquire any time soon. If you don't understand this concept then you are a lost cause.
 

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I think that one of Romo's shortcomings is he doesn't give up on a play. You rarely see him just throw the ball away. He is great at extending plays with his feet but at the same time I can remember several balls that were dropped by defenders that should have been picked.........
 

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dstone2962;5028742 said:
You're acting like that was the first time he'd been in situations like that.
He was clearly outplayed by Griffin that day simply by the fact that Griffin made less mistakes.

:lmao2:

Are you serious? Griffin was 9/18 for 100 yards and had a running back who ran for 200 yards. Just because Griffin didn't make any mistakes doesn't mean he outplayed Romo. Hell, if Murray would've ran for 200 yards we would've won the game most likely.
 

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Arkyvarminter;5028747 said:
I think that one of Romo's shortcomings is he doesn't give up on a play. You rarely see him just throw the ball away. He is great at extending plays with his feet but at the same time I can remember several balls that were dropped by defenders that should have been picked.........


Exactly. Thats just a part of his personality as a player. He's not going to make the smart decision. He has to play hero ball a little too much.

Bottom line, if Jones lets himself get pushed around by Tony Romo, he's truly lost it.
 

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weaver21;5028750 said:
:lmao2:

Are you serious? Griffin was 9/18 for 100 yards and had a running back who ran for 200 yards. Just because Griffin didn't make any mistakes doesn't mean he outplayed Romo. Hell, if Murray would've ran for 200 yards we would've won the game most likely.

How many INT's? He didn't force anything; as we saw a week later he was clearly playing hurt. I'm not defending a rival quarterback I'm just saying that Romo at 32 doesn't have the sense that someone ten years younger than him does.
 

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dstone2962;5028753 said:
How many INT's? He didn't force anything; as we saw a week later he was clearly playing hurt. I'm not defending a rival quarterback I'm just saying that Romo at 32 doesn't have the sense that someone ten years younger than him does.

He didn't make any mistakes or force anything because he didn't have to throw the ball. Morris was dominating that game by himself and if the defense could've contained Morris a bit more and put the ball in Griffin's hands, he would've struggled just like he did against Seattle.
 

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weaver21;5028754 said:
He didn't make any mistakes or force anything because he didn't have to throw the ball. Morris was dominating that game by himself and if the defense could've contained Morris a bit more and put the ball in Griffin's hands, he would've struggled just like he did against Seattle.

Who cares what Morris did? Tony Romo had a chance to win the game with 3 minutes on the clock and he single handed tossed it right back to the Commanders. The defense which had all years kept the Cowboys at least fighting in games in the first half on multiple occasions (13 points against SEA first half, 10 points CHI first half, 7 points @WSH first half) had to yet again put up with Tony Romo's shenanigans and gave up a touchdown and the game was over.

Fans like to say that its not Tony Romo, its the team. That is definitely the case. This team needs to upgrade in ALOT of areas. But to say that Tony Romo deserves an extension because he's the best option *currently* is in my opinion just lowering your expectations.

Oh and I believe your next move is to throw some statistic at me about Romo's greatness.
 

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Arkyvarminter;5028747 said:
I think that one of Romo's shortcomings is he doesn't give up on a play. You rarely see him just throw the ball away. He is great at extending plays with his feet but at the same time I can remember several balls that were dropped by defenders that should have been picked.........

I think his biggest mistakes have come when he is under initial pressure and assumes the receiver is going to be where he is supposed to be. He throws the ball on blind faith without actually seeing if the defense has jumped the route or otherwise prevented the receiver from being in the right spot. Just like the Commander game, taking the sack would've been the better play.

I think he makes his best plays when he eludes the initial rush, gets outside the pocket and attacks downfield. You don't see many INTs when he extends the play and tries to force a pass, except when late and desperate.
 

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dstone2962;5028696 said:
Why does this guy get a pass for blowing that game?
Yeah, Romo threw a screen pass with pressure in his face & the Skins made a big play & picked it off. Did he blow the game? NO. You can say he blew the DRIVE but the INT only gave the ball to the Skins ( who had a 3pt lead ). Had Hatcher not got called for Roughing the Passer on 3rd down, the Skins kick the FG & Romo gets the ball back, with a chance to WIN the game.
Funny how the INT is the ONLY thing remembered about that game. :rolleyes:
 

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I also think, and this may be just me, that the play calling is entirely built around Romo winning with his arm and this needs to change. Why do we stray from the run when its working and there were games last year where it was working and Garrett started passing and didn't quit. I know the league is becoming more pass happy but I think more running would take some pressure off Romo.......
 

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Ultra Warrior;5028768 said:
Yeah, Romo threw a screen pass with pressure in his face & the Skins made a big play & picked it off. Did he blow the game? NO. You can say he blew the DRIVE but the INT only gave the ball to the Skins ( who had a 3pt lead ). Had Hatcher not got called for Roughing the Passer on 3rd down, the Skins kick the FG & Romo gets the ball back, with a chance to WIN the game.
Funny how the INT is the ONLY thing remembered about that game. :rolleyes:

I remember 3 interceptions by Tony And a one legged RG3 with a clean uniform... Ohh and the wings were pretty good..
 

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Hoofbite;5028684 said:
He has leverage because he's good.

If I were Romo and Jerry tried to point at my "record" as a reason why he wants to pay less than what I deserve, I'd demand a trade.

What an insult to the intelligence of anyone who has watched this team's OL struggle to block at all. What an insult to the intelligence of anyone who watched this team collect a bunch of malcontents and just assumed it would all work out and when it failed, promptly cut them in the name of making things more "Romo friendly". "Sorry Tony, we really thought all those head cases would work out".

Good thing I did not have a drink in my mouth when I read your post or I would have spit it all out in my uncontrollable laughter.

You are spot on.

Cowboy fan does crack me up though with "Jerry sucks...we will never win with Jerry...Jerry hires puppet coaches...look at our crap OL...no run game...SAFETY...cut Miles cant stay healthy...stupid Jerry franchising Spencer...cap hell...look at 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006 draft...cut Dez does not know but three routes" next breath "Romo is a loser...look at his post season success"

Yeah ok.

It never ceases to amaze me.
 

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Vinnie2u;5028774 said:
I remember 3 interceptions by Tony And a one legged RG3 with a clean uniform... Ohh and the wings were pretty good..
So you just pointed out that the DEFENSE didn't do much in that game.
 

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Ultra Warrior;5028778 said:
So you just pointed out that the DEFENSE didn't do much in that game.

Yes, I don't only blame Tony.. But he added to the misery..
 

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Vinnie2u;5028779 said:
Yes, I don't only blame Tony.. But he added to the misery..
Imagine how he feels, having to continue to CARRY this team & still get dumped on for it. If anything, the leverage Tony has, is that NO ONE in their right mind would want to play QB here with all the issues he has to deal with.
 

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Vinnie2u;5028719 said:
How confident are you that Tony can put together 2 Super Bowl runs like Eli. Sure he didn't win by himself. But he didn't blow it either.

I am confident that he has a chance to do that when he has the same pieces in place that Eli did. Can you imagine how good he could be with a competitent offensive line and a balanced offense?

Look back at the Pittsburgh game for example. I felt that the line played pretty well, we had play action in our back pocket. Who made the critical interception at the end of the game? It wasn't Romo. He played damn good.

That's what I don't get with Cowboys fans. Did you forget all the games that he played well in just to get an opportunity to win the East? Did he play well against Washington? No, but are you comfortable with Garret's adjustment to the blitz in that game?

I guess I am just as confident as you are with his replacement......
 

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DFWJC;5028720 said:
In all of my years watching sports, this really has been one of the oddest perception vs reality things I've ever seen.

I've said it before; his screwup plays count 10x his good plays to some.

The Washington game is a great for his detractors to use of him making some bad plays, but even it can be comical how extreme some get.
I mean it reminds me of the old Monty Python scene where the guy is protecting the bridge and the keep taking stuff away (bodyparts in this case) but expecting the same results.

In Washington--especially on that last drive--you've already taken away:
the running game
any remote abiltiy to protect the QB
then Miles Austin
then Dez Bryant
then Dwayne Harris

LOL...you can't make this stuff up! It's like he was alone vs Washington..like some cartoon or something.

But they still think he should just drive them down the field (like, by the way, he had done the last 5 straight games either to win the game or tie it in the 4th quarter).
They fail. He fails. They do get a TD pass and 2 pt conversion right before then. Then next drive he hits Witten for 1st down. But next play he makes a bad play. Int.
The defense gives up a long scoring to drive to seal it.
But no...this game is all on Romo..HE blew the whole game.
Dumbfounding

Even Cole Beasley was hurt. At one point we had Ogletree Hannah Witten as our only WR options.
 
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