Why Doesn't Wade get the Credit??

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Did Switzer get credit?

The last year of Switzer's job, the team stopped playing for him; that's a sign of failure.

 

[Bach]

The last year of Switzer's job, the team stopped playing for him; that's a sign of failure.

True. There's no way that team, only two years removed from the SB, go 6-10 without quitting on him. It was pretty evident down the stretch.

 

[Chief]

I think Wade deserves a lot of credit this year. Bill did a good job building this team back up, but as a coach, with his overly conservative approach and his rough, grumpy style - I think he took us about as far as he could.

At least for this year, the approach Wade brought to the team along with Garrett opening up the offense and TO being part of the team and not just "the player", imo, helped catapult us to where we are.

While I much prefer BP here for personnel acquisition, I seriously believe that if he were coaching this year we wouldn't have had the same success.

Now in the long run though, I'm not sure how Wade's laid back approach will work. But for this year, he deserves much credit for getting us where we are.

That pretty much sums up my thoughts, too.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

I am not certain what others on this forum may think, but some of my reading indicates Parcells gets a little too much credit for some of the key acquisitions for the Cowboys. For example, I believe it was Sean Payton who championed Romo.

Didn't Parcells want Robertson instead of Newman

Parcells moved Andre Gurode to guard favoring Al Johnson at Center

Preferred Keyshawn over TO last year

Started Bledsoe over Romo Last Year

Directed the Conditioning Staff to add more weight (than needed) to the linebacking core, making them extremely slow

Strong Roy Williams supporter

Did not sign or really draft a good free safety

I could go on and on but you get the point, Parcells does deserve some credit the team was absolute crap before he got there, but his record indicates that he was a .500 coach while he was here with two playoff appearences and no wins. I think more than anything the organization learned not to take over the top risk-oriented chances on draft picks and to some degree free-agents (better structured contracts with less chance of destroying the team if the player doesn't work out).

Good post

People also forget the bad transactions Parcells favored like starting two old veterans in Testaverde and Bledsoe instead of trying to acquire or even develop young QB's on our staff. He also converted a fullback Richie Anderson into our starting tailback at times and brought guys like Ryan Young to the team that were ineffective but were brought here simply beause they were Parcells guys. Parcells also did nothing to try and get some talent at wideout. Bringing Terrell Owens here was Jerry Jones idea.

He deserves credit for resurrecting our team from the Campo years and that feat alone deserves much praise. But I don't liken his efforts to the Tampa Bay situation. Tony Dungy's Bucs were much more competitive than our teams were under Parcells. Those teams were a lot better.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Good post

People also forget the bad transactions Parcells favored like starting two old veterans in Testaverde and Bledsoe instead of trying to acquire or even develop young QB's on our staff. He also converted a fullback Richie Anderson into our starting tailback at times and brought guys like Ryan Young to the team that were ineffective but were brought here simply beause they were Parcells guys. Parcells also did nothing to try and get some talent at wideout. Bringing Terrell Owens here was Jerry Jones idea.

He deserves credit for resurrecting our team from the Campo years and that feat alone deserves much praise. But I don't liken his efforts to the Tampa Bay situation. Tony Dungy's Bucs were much more competitive than our teams were under Parcells. Those teams were a lot better.

Maybe Parcells brought some older players here that were valuable for more than their play on the field. He brought character guys, hard workers, guys with winning experience.

Which QBs are you taking about? We had a dope head and a few baseball players. He didn't have a hand in developing Romo? We did so well at developing QBs before he arrived.

Do you remember just how bad everything about the team was when Parcells arrived? Jones couldn't do it alone, I doubt Phillips could have done it.
Phillips gets credit for taking the ball and running with it, Parcells and Jones should get the credit for handing it to him.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Maybe Parcells brought some older players here that were valuable for more than their play on the field. He brought character guys, hard workers, guys with winning experience.

Then why were those guys always cut the following season. And why is everyone who is old and played under Parcells automatically a "character guy" How do you know they brought character and motivated players? It seems like if you can't justify their performance on the field, you have to contrive a reason for them being valuable to the team in some way. Well guess what, what you can make that excuse for anyone who doesn't play well; "Yeah but they were character guys"

Which QBs are you taking about? We had a dope head and a few baseball players. He didn't have a hand in developing Romo? We did so well at developing QBs before he arrived.

Why didn't Parcells try to acquire a QB? Why didn't he trade up in the draft? Why didn't the Cowboys try to put a trade together to acquire a QB from another team. Parcells felt no urgency to acquire a QB. It was Parcells decision to try and win with Quincy Carter. It was Parcell's decision to bring Vinny and Drew here instead of trying to acquire anyone else.

Do you remember just how bad everything about the team was when Parcells arrived? Jones couldn't do it alone, I doubt Phillips could have done it.
Phillips gets credit for taking the ball and running with it, Parcells and Jones should get the credit for handing it to him.

Did I say he doesn't deserve credit from resurrecting the team from the Campo years? No, and I don't think anyone else has said that either. What makes you think Parcells "handed" it to him? Parcells wanted out. He just sat out a year to wait for opportunities. That's why he went to the Dolphins. He wanted out of Dallas because he knew he wasn't going to get his way any longer because his way wasn't working.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

I think #2 had a bigger part to do with it. Sacks strongly correlate to winning in the NFL and Zimmer's defenses just don't get many sacks. It doesn't mean that Dallas would've won a Super Bowl, but he probably would've had better regular season records, particularly in 2003, 2005 and 2006.

And I'm convinced it has little to do with trust since he gave Zimmer a lot of leeway. Zimmer's defenses couldn't sack the QB before Parcells came here and while we ran Zimmer's coveted 4-3/Tampa 2 look. Then when Zimmer went to the Falcons this year they struggled sacking the QB, despite having defensive personnel tailor made for his Tampa 2. Dallas has immediately improved on defense under Wade and in particular in the ability to pressure the QB. That's a big reason why Wade is probably a much better HC than given credit for, he gets his defenses to sack the QB which correlates so strongly to victory.


YAKUZA

Good response Yakuza

You can also see Zimmer's influence with the Arizona Cardinals. Clancy Pendergast is a Campo/Zimmer disciple and he runs the same type of defense in Arizona. I live in Phoenix so I watch the Cardinals and it's funny because the Cardinals defense reminds of the Cowboys defense during Zimmer's years. They have that same philosophy of react and contain instead of attacking. The Cardinals have a lot of talent on defense yet they can't put any pressure on the QB and their corners play man coverage yet pay 5-7 yards off the receiver the same way Zimmer used to prefer. Pendergast is given a lot of credit because their defense is a very respectable and successful defense but it's not the defense that is going to put a lot of pressure on the QB. And like Zimmer, I think Pendergast will be out after next season when Whisenhunt realizes that scheme applies no pressure whatsoever. Zimmer should have been cut because he had no experience with the 3-4. Sure, in one perspective, it was honorable that Parcells didn't fire Zimmer. He was being loyal but at the same time, if your guy can't run your defense then you need to bring in someone who can.