Why don't the Cowboys ask Carr to take a cut instead of Ware?

[Hoofbite]

lol you even have his photo on your sig. http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***/files/2012/08/Brandon-Carr.jpg

Yeah I like the guy.

 

[BlindFaith]

I'm beginning to believe that you don't understand the basics of the salary cap.

The amount over 7.5M is prorated bonus money that has already been paid. If he is cut they save the 7.5M. The 12.217M-7.5M=4.717M amount hits the cap at some point regardless of whether he stays on the team or not. Cutting him or keeping him only affects the 7.5M amount.

Ok, let's do it this way.

Is his cap hit this year for playing 12,217,000?
Is his dead money figure 16,868,000?

His direct cap hit for this year, if he were to be released before June 1st is 16,868,000 right? After June 1st its 4,717,000 this year and 12,151,000 next year? Right?

What am I not understanding here? Yes, we save his base salary, but we are now paying almost 17,000,000 for a player not on the team if he's not designated a June 1st cut. Not to mention you have to find a starting quality CB to replace him, which means more cap hit for that player.

Again, what am I not understanding here?

 

[sideon]

Because Carr has had more game winning plays than Ware in recent history.

 

[TrailBlazer]

You're talking to the wrong guy. In my mind, a CB can never justify Carr's contract. You'd have to be an impact player to do that. Make others around you better. Cornerbacks don't do that.

It's the same with Claiborne. He'll never justify the 6th overall pick and a 2nd rounder.

That was one of the worst offseasons in the Jerry era.

The amount of money paid to cornerbacks throughout the league says you're wrong.
You can't throw Mario Edwards out there and expect him not to get picked on.
Jerry might've put too many resources into the position while neglecting the trenches. But that doesn't mean the CB position isn't essential as well.

To answer the OPs question. Dallas couldn't save money by cutting Carr like they could with ware. Give carr a decent pass rush and decent talent around him Ware has always made around 6-7 mil per season. His production the past 2 seasons doesn't justify 16mil cap hit. That's just unreasonable and frankly one of the worst value contracts on the team, right up there with Austin.

 

[Doc50]

Carr's salary is 7.5M.

Ware's salary is 12.25M.

They lose cap space if Carr is cut but gain 7.4M if Ware is cut.

The 12.25M for Ware was just a placeholder to allow the team to add years to his contract and spread out the bonus money to lower the cap hit in previous years. Ware's salary has never been over 6M in previous years including the restructure bonus.

Ware wouldn't really be taking a pay cut if they gave him 6M because that's most he's made previously. He just wouldn't be getting the non guaranteed 12.25M that is called out in the contract.

Yeah, I'm not so sure that DW would object to a 6 or 7 mil yearly base, like many are chastising him for.
When he was quoted as saying he would not take a pay cut, I think we have every reason to believe that he is thinking like we would be -- that we would not work for less money than we received last year. So, I not at all sure that he's demanding the 12mil that was most likely explained to him as a place-holder when he signed. He and JJ will work it out.

I fully expect him to get over his injuries, finish his career here, play well, get in the ROH, and re-earn the respect of the Cowboy faithful.

 

[Ratmatt]

I know the answer is probably both need to take a cut.....

But I find it awfully curious that there is media showdown going on between Ware and the Cowboys.

But you don't here anything about Carr restructuring his deal. If anyone has under performed on his contract it's Carr.

I've read a couple places that the Cowboys don't wanna push anymore money down the road....so if Carr has another bad year..they can cut him next season- and the hit they have to take (dead money) won't be so severe.

My question is....If you have doubt going into a season about a guy...why not cut bait now? F

I know the answer is probably both need to take a cut.....

But I find it awfully curious that there is media showdown going on between Ware and the Cowboys.

But you don't here anything about Carr restructuring his deal. If anyone has under performed on his contract it's Carr.

I've read a couple places that the Cowboys don't wanna push anymore money down the road....so if Carr has another bad year..they can cut him next season- and the hit they have to take (dead money) won't be so severe.

My question is....If you have doubt going into a season about a guy...why not cut bait now?

Fix that god awful defensive line,and I think you will be happy with Carr's play!

 

[Derinyar]

I'm sure the team wants to see if Carr rebounds this year and gets one more year into his guaranteed money to see if he's going to be here next year. Ware is at a restructure or cut point, and the team is trying to see if he's willing to take what's behind the third door. This is a finical decision as much, if not more, then a football decision.

 

[coult44]

I know the answer is probably both need to take a cut.....

But I find it awfully curious that there is media showdown going on between Ware and the Cowboys.

But you don't here anything about Carr restructuring his deal. If anyone has under performed on his contract it's Carr.

I've read a couple places that the Cowboys don't wanna push anymore money down the road....so if Carr has another bad year..they can cut him next season- and the hit they have to take (dead money) won't be so severe.

My question is....If you have doubt going into a season about a guy...why not cut bait now?

I'm in total agreement about Carr, but you do agree we can't pay Ware over 15 million right?

 

[Clove]

This....

Ware is old, injury prone, and s hurting us more than helping as of late.

Carr get's little to no help on D. We can't rush the passer and our safeties barely have any range, so any QB will look like an All pro vs us.

Besides the ONE year Spencer was decent, tell me exactly how much help Ware has had over his ENTIRE career? I'll help you with that, NONE!

 

[khiladi]

Besides the ONE year Spencer was decent, tell me exactly how much help Ware has had over his ENTIRE career? I'll help you with that, NONE!

Uh, Ratliff was a beast for a couple years. The main problems during Wade's tenure is we had MLBs that couldn't cover worth squat and corners that sucked.

 

[Setackin]

Does anyone know how much ware has gotten paid year to year throughout his career??? I think the cowboys have robbed him.

 

[Alexander]

Something to keep in mind, now that Denver dumped Champ Bailey and the Rams got rid of Finnegan, Brandon Carr is behind only Revis in terms of compensation.

 

[manster4ever]

Ware will be 32. Date of birth: July 31, 1982 (age 31)

John Abraham is still rockin it @ age 35. I still think Ware has @ least 2 if not 3 more good years

He might, but his last 2 seasons have been pretty bad. He should take a cut IMO. Carr? Bad last season with NO help around him....restructure this season and cut salary drastically next season if he doesn't improve.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I'm beginning to believe that you don't understand the basics of the salary cap.

The amount over 7.5M is prorated bonus money that has already been paid. If he is cut they save the 7.5M. The 12.217M-7.5M=4.717M amount hits the cap at some point regardless of whether he stays on the team or not. Cutting him or keeping him only affects the 7.5M amount.

He's taking it on blind faith.

Just kidding, BlindFaith!

 

[Bullflop]

I read recently that the front office's intention this year is to let Carr play this year to determine what they'll want to do about his contract once those results are in. If he has another poor season like he turned in last year, he'll be asked to take a cut in pay. Reportedly, he won't be asked to take a cut this year, nor do they intend to restructure his contract in 2014. Just passing it on.

 

[Frozen700]

Besides the ONE year Spencer was decent, tell me exactly how much help Ware has had over his ENTIRE career? I'll help you with that, NONE!

You obviously just started watching the cowboys, or barely watch, and just pretend to be a fan.

You forget Ratliff, or even Greg Ellis? Yeah, it has always just been Ware, and 1 year from Spencer.

Face it, he fell off, cut the crap.

 

[cbredmon]

I know the answer is probably both need to take a cut.....

But I find it awfully curious that there is media showdown going on between Ware and the Cowboys.

But you don't here anything about Carr restructuring his deal. If anyone has under performed on his contract it's Carr.

I've read a couple places that the Cowboys don't wanna push anymore money down the road....so if Carr has another bad year..they can cut him next season- and the hit they have to take (dead money) won't be so severe.

My question is....If you have doubt going into a season about a guy...why not cut bait now?

Why not ask Romo to restructure his contract and take less overall money so they can get salary cap relief and sign Ware and another free agent to help them win. If Romo truly wants to win he will do like Brady and take less money to help the team.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Why not ask Romo to restructure his contract and take less overall money so they can get salary cap relief and sign Ware and another free agent to help them win. If Romo truly wants to win he will do like Brady and take less money to help the team.

Romo did restructure already. Why should he be asked to take a pay cut when he just signed that contract less than 1 year ago?