Why Escobar?... Why a TE?

Cowboy Brian

@BrianLINY
Messages
15,864
Reaction score
5,053
I was working tonight and only briefly was able to check my phone to get updates, this pick still doesn't make much sense to me.

We have Witten, Phillips and Hanna. A HoFer who has plenty of juice left and two players who have flashed potential so why did we get a projected 3rd round TE in the mid 2nd? Overreaching for a need position when the player is the top at their position (Frederick) makes a ton of sense, reaching for a non need position doesn't.

Can anyone elaborate on the reasoning?
 

Cowboy Brian

@BrianLINY
Messages
15,864
Reaction score
5,053
TheRomoSexual;5065912 said:
We don't have Phillips. And he was BPA, not a "reach."
Wow. Didn't know we lost Phillips, haven't followed that closely this offseason due to rising real life commitments.

I was going by this -
47. Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State: D Grade
Jerruh sure loves his third-round prospects. Gavin Escobar belonged in the third frame. Even worse, he doesn't fill a need. The Cowboys have so many defensive issues, especially considering that they're moving into a new 4-3, that it's a big head-scratcher that they haven't addressed their stop unit yet.
 

sacase

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,347
Reaction score
2,612
Witten is getting old and we needed to draft his replacement. How many people on this board have wined and cried about JJ being short sighted and not drafting replacements. When we do, the same people whine and moan talking about its not a need.
 

TheRomoSexual

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,057
Reaction score
4,958
Romo 2 Austin;5065918 said:
Wow. Didn't know we lost Phillips, haven't followed that closely this offseason due to rising real life commitments.

I was going by this -
47. Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State: D Grade
Jerruh sure loves his third-round prospects. Gavin Escobar belonged in the third frame. Even worse, he doesn't fill a need. The Cowboys have so many defensive issues, especially considering that they're moving into a new 4-3, that it's a big head-scratcher that they haven't addressed their stop unit yet.

No idea where that is from, but 49ers took Vance immediately after we took Escobar. We actually caused a bit of a TE run.
 

Frozen700

Well-Known Member
Messages
17,511
Reaction score
6,475
Romo 2 Austin;5065909 said:
I was working tonight and only briefly was able to check my phone to get updates, this pick still doesn't make much sense to me.

We have Witten, Phillips and Hanna. A HoFer who has plenty of juice left and two players who have flashed potential so why did we get a projected 3rd round TE in the mid 2nd? Overreaching for a need position when the player is the top at their position (Frederick) makes a ton of sense, reaching for a non need position doesn't.

Can anyone elaborate on the reasoning?

Just join the Blame Jerry Club.

Blame everything on Jerry, even things that happen in your regular life.
 

CF74

Vet Min Plus
Messages
26,167
Reaction score
14,623
Because Fasano and Bennett weren't avail...:banghead:
 

SilverStarCowboy

The Actualist
Messages
10,337
Reaction score
1,998
Looks like a Garrett move to a two TE Set, best pass catching hands in the entire Draft and hopefully prolongs Wittens career.


Smart Player. Comes in head and shoulders above Fasano, Bennett and Phillips.
 

RS12

Well-Known Member
Messages
32,523
Reaction score
29,868
They want to be able to run a base 12 if they want.
 

blackbull

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,284
Reaction score
206
sacase;5065922 said:
Witten is getting old and we needed to draft his replacement. How many people on this board have wined and cried about JJ being short sighted and not drafting replacements. When we do, the same people whine and moan talking about its not a need.


Isn't Hanna his replacment? And as stated, we had more pressing needs. This was the worst pick we made by FAR. It's funny, more people had an issue it seems with Frederick than this guy who probably won't even see the field.
 

TheRomoSexual

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,057
Reaction score
4,958
blackbull;5065938 said:
Isn't Hanna his replacment? And as stated, we had more pressing needs. This was the worst pick we made by FAR. It's funny, more people had an issue it seems with Frederick than this guy who probably won't even see the field.

No, Hanna is insanely overrated by this board. He was a 6th round pick, for crying out loud. And if you don't think Escobar will "see the field," you're out of your mind.
 

CF74

Vet Min Plus
Messages
26,167
Reaction score
14,623
blackbull;5065938 said:
Isn't Hanna his replacment? And as stated, we had more pressing needs. This was the worst pick we made by FAR. It's funny, more people had an issue it seems with Frederick than this guy who probably won't even see the field.


:hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
 

PJTHEDOORS

Well-Known Member
Messages
18,190
Reaction score
18,582
sacase;5065922 said:
Witten is getting old and we needed to draft his replacement. How many people on this board have wined and cried about JJ being short sighted and not drafting replacements. When we do, the same people whine and moan talking about its not a need.

Ratliff and Hatcher are getting old too, but obviously we aren't looking for their replacements. Sad.
 

TheRomoSexual

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,057
Reaction score
4,958
PJTHEDOORS;5065942 said:
Ratliff and Hatcher are getting old too, but obviously we aren't looking for their replacements. Sad.

Um, you do realize we drafted a 3-tech in the third last season, right?
 

blackbull

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,284
Reaction score
206
TheRomoSexual;5065940 said:
No, Hanna is insanely overrated by this board. He was a 6th round pick, for crying out loud. And if you don't think Escobar will "see the field," you're out of your mind.


How is he overrated when he didn't get a chance to do anything? And I think it is sad that we have to try to emulate the Patriots.
 

Ratmatt

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,024
Reaction score
124
Romo 2 Austin;5065909 said:
I was working tonight and only briefly was able to check my phone to get updates, this pick still doesn't make much sense to me.

We have Witten, Phillips and Hanna. A HoFer who has plenty of juice left and two players who have flashed potential so why did we get a projected 3rd round TE in the mid 2nd? Overreaching for a need position when the player is the top at their position (Frederick) makes a ton of sense, reaching for a non need position doesn't.

Can anyone elaborate on the reasoning?
After you go home,and get a good night of sleep,and wake up all refreshed in the morning.This pick will make even less sense.:lmao2:
 

CF74

Vet Min Plus
Messages
26,167
Reaction score
14,623
Ratmatt;5065950 said:
After you go home,and get a good night of sleep,and wake up all refreshed in the morning.This pick will make even less sense.:lmao2:

:hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
 

DFWJC

Well-Known Member
Messages
59,981
Reaction score
48,728
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
TheRomoSexual;5065912 said:
We don't have Phillips. And he was BPA, not a "reach."
Don't see him nearly as a BPA at pick 47.

He'sa Cowboy now, so I'm with him.
 

Ratmatt

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,024
Reaction score
124
Romo 2 Austin;5065918 said:
Wow. Didn't know we lost Phillips, haven't followed that closely this offseason due to rising real life commitments.

I was going by this -
47. Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State: D Grade
Jerruh sure loves his third-round prospects. Gavin Escobar belonged in the third frame. Even worse, he doesn't fill a need. The Cowboys have so many defensive issues, especially considering that they're moving into a new 4-3, that it's a big head-scratcher that they haven't addressed their stop unit yet.
The first sentence of his description,(Jerruh sure loves his third-round prospect),tells you all you need to know about it.
 

Gemini Dolly

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,391
Reaction score
1,400
Top