Why Felix Jones didn't play more vs Minnesota

[dcfanatic]

Felix will be the lead next season. Barber will be a role player.

Will that stop Garrett from calling a toss sweep for MBIII?

I don't know.

And that's the real problem.

 

[BourbonBalz]

I'm still pissed about that toss to Barber 7 yards deep in the backfield. We were running well and a TD there would've put us right back in the game. Does Garrett not know his own personnel? I think my daughter would know better than to call that play with Barber. Here's an idea. Continue doing what was working. At least if you're gonna call that stupid play, do it with the right personnel (Felix). Garrett just does not know how to use the players we have on offense. We rack up yards, but not points because there's always a penalty or a badly called play during a drive where we lose yards and are forced to punt.

 

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

he wasnt used on kick off returns

he was used on one lone kick off return

like someone said 4 carries he recieved were to end the game.

from the start of the game felix was effective and like garrett has done with him since hes been here he sat him.

instead we saw barber recieve 8 carries and total i think only 14 yards. 8 of of which came on his longest run of the game.

another prime example of garrett not being able to adjust. instead of riding the hot hand and altering his game plan to fit felix in more. he as usual acts stubborn and keeps rotating him out for an injured and ineffective marion barber as his game plain entailed.

we were all saying in the game thread when the game wasnt completely out of reach where is felix? it was completly baffling why he wasnt being involved more

the homers and those who foolishly support garrett wont admit he didnt do well. to do so would be admitting their boy wonder didnt do a good job. it also opens criticism towards him and their support, as well as evaluation in his performance in big games againgst top tier teams

so theyll foolishly take a stance to defend something they know wasnt right.

im sure some of the credible sports writers and radio shows in the media will bring this up and touch on it.

its funny how those of us including myself can give props to jason for a game well called but most of his supporters can never point out or agree with anything he has done that was questionable.

its either their to much of a homer or dont want to add to the growing list of flaws which are building arguments againgst him

 

[RainMan]

he wasnt used on kick off returns

he was used on one lone kick off return

like someone said 4 carries he recieved were to end the game.

from the start of the game felix was effective and like garrett has done with him since hes been here he sat him.

instead we saw barber recieve 8 carries and total i think only 14 yards. 8 of of which came on his longest run of the game.

another prime example of garrett not being able to adjust. instead of riding the hot hand and altering his game plan to fit felix in more. he as usual acts stubborn and keeps rotating him out for an injured and ineffective marion barber as his game plain entailed.

we were all saying in the game thread when the game wasnt completely out of reach where is felix? it was completly baffling why he wasnt being involved more

the homers and those who foolishly support garrett wont admit he didnt do well. to do so would be admitting their boy wonder didnt do a good job. it also opens criticism towards him and their support, as well as evaluation in his performance in big games againgst top tier teams

so theyll foolishly take a stance to defend something they know wasnt right.

im sure some of the credible sports writers and radio shows in the media will bring this up and touch on it.

its funny how those of us including myself can give props to jason for a game when called but most of his supporters can never point out or agree with anything he has done that was questionable.

its either their to much of a homer or dont want to add to the growing list of flaws which are building arguments againgst him

I think one of the biggest indictments on Garrett is how Austin and Felix ended up having their 'career' days -- muddled in a backup role until pushed to the foreground because of injury.

Defensively, I really thought we did a great job this season of assigning roles. You know, Scandrick as the slot, Bobby as the dime linebacker, Bowen and Hatcher in on passing downs, etc.

Yet on offense, where we have arguably more talent stuffed away, we never really figured out how to use Roy, the running back rotation and Bennett in the passing game. Did Choice even get anything but his one Razorback carry?

 

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

I think one of the biggest indictments on Garrett is how Austin and Felix ended up having their 'career' days -- muddled in a backup role until pushed to the foreground because of injury.

Defensively, I really thought we did a great job this season of assigning roles. You know, Scandrick as the slot, Bobby as the dime linebacker, Bowen and Hatcher in on passing downs, etc.

Yet on offense, where we have arguably more talent stuffed away, we never really figured out how to use Roy, the running back rotation and Bennett in the passing game. Did Choice even get anything but his one Razorback carry?

co sign everything you said.

and as far as the bolded. when those he ever does:laugh1:

unless someone is hurt expect choice in nothing but a wildcat play or 2 in terms of running the ball

more then likely at the 10 yard line as always

nevermind we marched all the way down field

were in goal territory its time for the usual wildcat run for choice!minny immediately blew it up

 

[Beast_from_East]

Until the game was basically over with 2 minutes left in the game, Felix only had 10 carries and Barber had 8 carries. Garrett then gave the ball to Felix 4 plays in a row. Until the final two minutes of the game, Felix only had 2 more carries than Barber even though Felix is a much better player than Barber and even though Felix outperformed him dramatically vs Minnesota. That is pitiful coaching. Just downright pitiful.[/quote]


It would be like Fisher splitting carries between Chris Johnson and freaking Lendal White. Good coaches know that you play the guy that is clearly the best and is there even a discussion at this point between Felix and Barber???

Is there anybody left that still thinks Barber is anywhere as good as Felix???

 

[ConstantReboot]

This is what upsets me with Garrett. He is so predictable on how he runs the offense. Secondly, it seems he never, ever deviates from his system.

Its like he has some kind of checklist to make sure things are done....like make sure Barber has 10 or more carries then Felix; makes sure you call the wildcat 3 times per game; make sure you call 10 or more delay draws per game, etc. etc.

Garrett has totally ruined this offense. If the trend continues from this year to the next, Romo who was once the most dangerous passer out of the pocket, will be nothing more than a well protected pocket passer in an offense that doesn't score alot of points.

 

[tunahelper]

Until the game was basically over with 2 minutes left in the game, Felix only had 10 carries and Barber had 8 carries. Garrett then gave the ball to Felix 4 plays in a row. Until the final two minutes of the game, Felix only had 2 more carries than Barber even though Felix is a much better player than Barber and even though Felix outperformed him dramatically vs Minnesota. That is pitiful coaching. Just downright pitiful.

What a gameplan we had going up to Minnesota...

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I hope Wade doesn't really mean that the way it sounds. Felix can take a play to the house at any given time and yet you want him riding the pine when you need points the most?

 

[Oh_Canada]

Did he actually say that? That might be the single dumbest thing I have ever heard coming out of a head coach's mouth.

 

[sonnyboy]

I hope Wade doesn't really mean that the way it sounds. Felix can take a play to the house at any given time and yet you want him riding the pine when you need points the most?

Exactly and it why it was sooooo critical to get him the max number of touches in the 2nd half.

It's frustrating because they did exactly what I was screaming for to start the 2nd half.

Down 14 without Adams and the Viks pinning their ears back. Our only realistic shot was to come out running and running well with Felix. Put the fear of god into them and slow down the rush.

What kills me is we did exactly that AND IT WAS WORKING! Felix ripped off a few real nice runs and we were in scoring position.
Then we run that stupid pitch play and lose 6 yards setting up 2and 16. Running threat effectively removed and we have two unsuccessful pass plays under a jail house pass rush.

That was our last best shot right there. We run that pitch to Jones and who knows, maybe he gets the corner and takes it for 7. I have all the confidence that he at least gets back to the LOS.

Had we score a TD on that drive I believe the entire 2nd half plays out better.

 

[casmith07]

Exactly and it why it was sooooo critical to get him the max number of touches in the 2nd half.

It's frustrating because they did exactly what I was screaming for to start the 2nd half.

Down 14 without Adams and the Viks pinning their ears back. Our only realistic shot was to come out running and running well with Felix. Put the fear of god into them and slow down the rush.

What kills me is we did exactly that AND IT WAS WORKING! Felix ripped off a few real nice runs and we were in scoring position.
Then we run that stupid pitch play and lose 6 yards setting up 2and 16. Running threat effectively removed and we have two unsuccessful pass plays under a jail house pass rush.

That was our last best shot right there. We run that pitch to Jones and who knows, maybe he gets the corner and takes it for 7. I have all the confidence that he at least gets back to the LOS.

Had we score a TD on that drive I believe the entire 2nd half plays out better.

Story of Jason Garrett and the coaches all year when it comes to running the football. Give the ball to Felix for 2 or 3 plays, he rips off between 20-40 yards on the ground, and then trot him off to the bench and put Barber in so we can stall the drive and miss a field goal, or get knocked back and end up punting.

It's sad, it's pathetic, it's frustrating. I'm not a coach by any means but it's been very, very upsetting to watch when at least on the TV it appears obvious.

I thought it would've been obvious after the huge run against Oakland, the huge run against the Eagles...Barber gets tackled around the line of scrimmage or in the backfield on plays that Felix gains a 1st down on or even takes to the house.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Felix will be the lead next season. Barber will be a role player.

Will that stop Garrett from calling a toss sweep for MBIII?

I don't know.

And that's the real problem.

That play pissed me off so bad.

Why the hell do that? We were moving the ball, we were doing really well, and then he pulls that gem of stupidity out of his butt and basically killed the drive.

I understand the idea of trying to hit them outside at that point, cause we'd done good in the middle, but why a toss like that to the slowest back on our team?

Garrett really ticks me off with some of his play calling. For a guy who is suppose to be so smart, and at times really shows some real talent, he can really make some very stupid calls.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Wait ... wasn't it actually Garrett who said something to the effect of "We wree in come-from-behind mode and didn't have any plays for Felix" following last year's loss to Washington in which Felix got no carries?

Or did Wade reiterate that point today?

I think the OP admitted Wade didn't say this.

Which makes it a completely BS post and thread.

Ridiculous.

 

[ETex]

"Felix Jones isn't a come from behind player." -Wade Phillips

Nice way to take a quote from last year and apply it to the current situation.


If you have problems with the RB situation, I suggest you look more toward the ginger than the fat man.

But whatever floats your boat or suits your agenda.

 

[Chuck 54]

We came into this game with a system that had been working...Jones and Barber alternate series...period. Like it or not, Jones got more out of his series because he was doing more with it.

Next year, I fully expect Felix Jones to be close to a full time player...MBIII will likely be a closer and short yardage back (though he wasn't very good in short yardage this year), and Choice will see occasional use.

 

[utrunner07]

So was this quote from last year or yesterday?

Also, whoever was/is in charge of our offensive personel should be fired on the spot. Garrett or Wade, one of them. In proper use of running backs, WR, and play schemes happens every week. It is inexcusable. But hey this is Jerry Jones so we got our consistency. Next year expect the same thing, mis use of players on occasion, terrible scheming on occasion, and out right stupidity on occasion, most of the time its not so bad that it beats us, it just something that holds us back, hopefuly we can overcome, but at some point(s) it will bite us, just like this year.

Here is the root: Both our coaches are servicable, good enough not to
be terrible but at times both have absolutely horrendous momemts (much more so Garrett), but because they are servicable and because they both allow Jerry to be hands on to his heart's content they will stay. We could definitely have better coaches but thats been the case since Jerry fired his first two coaches to get more control and that will continue to be the case for as long as he is GM...

 

[InmanRoshi]

Because Garrett can't think of a more creative way to use a dynamic home run threat back other than to run the 1955 Pappa Bear Halas Sweep Toss over and over and over again.

If you compare it to the way Mike Heimerdinger gets the ball in Chris Johnson's hands, or Mike Martz got the ball into Marshall Faulks hands or the way Al Saunders got the ball into Priest Holmes hands .... lining them up all over the field, utlizing them as slot WRs, running slip screens .... you'll see Garrett's grasp on how to utilize a runningback like Felix is rudimentary at best. You're putting a Ferrari in the hands of a 15 year old student driver.

 

[Malcolm Kelly]

I think the OP admitted Wade didn't say this.

Which makes it a completely BS post and thread.

Ridiculous.

No. I said that Wade didn't say it after the game vs Minnesota. However, one of the coaches(I think Wade) did make that statement after Felix sat on the bench during the entire game vs Washington last season. I figured that just about everyone here remembered when that quote was made. I was just making a joke about the game vs Minnesota, which apparently wasn't funny. I'm just frustrated with the whole situation and I hope it changes immediately. That is all.

By the way, I tried to edit my original post in this thread so that no one thinks that quote was made after the game vs Minnesota, but it won't let me edit it now. I do apologize if my post was misleading. That wasn't my intent.

 

[alohawg]

Garrett is a legend in his own mind, the world's smartest play caller and head coach in waiting, who will be watching the SB at home like the rest of us.