Why Getting Ezekiel Elliott Was The Right Move

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To everybody here on the forums that is a cowboy fan or not that was against the Cowboys drafting Ezekiel Elliot. Let me just say that drafting Elliot was the right move for the boys and here why:

I know what I'm going to say is pretty much obvious, but this team is built on a running game. We have one of the best offense line in the NFL but we lack a running back that would be able to take advantage of that offense line to the fullest potential. Yeah we had running backs before Ezekiel was drafted but they didn't had the skill that he had. Ezekiel skills were great, so great that it would be impossible for Jerry Jones and co not to grab him.

Look at last season. Lance Dunbar was injury prone as shown in the last few seasons, Darren McFadden while was a former first round pick and in my opinion did okay in his first season with the cowboys, was best use as backup for Elliot and Randle screw up. All of the RB were not starter RB.

We all seen what would happen if you put a great running back and a great offense line together. Emmett Smith and the great wall of Dallas in the 1990s, Tony Dorsett and that o-line from late 1970s to early 1980s are great examples.

It's been proven that if you run the ball more the clock runs down increasing the time of possession for that team. The 2014 Cowboys were first in time of possession controlling the ball 54% of the time and last season they were thirteen, the same season that Murray wasn't on the team. When the offense had the ball more the less the defense were on the field, making them more rested. It's great if you had a defense that is top five but what the point if they have to come back out on the field every three and out which is what happen last season.

When Murry ran the ball, Romo was able to become a better QB than he had before,Dez was able to produce better results for the team, other receivers were able to make catches, we ranked 11th in third down percentage in 2014. Why? because Demarco was able to gain enough yardage to make third down for bearable. Would you whether deal with third and ten or third and two? He was able to force the defense to focus more on him and not on Romo or the others. We were more balance that way.

I can see why people wanted Bosa or Jalen Ramsey, those two would had been great additions to the team but we make it to the playoffs and won the nfc east titles in 2014 because of the run game that we had.Ether way, I think we should all support the decision make as any addition to the team is a good one.

Look I get that some of you guys are going to counter on this post but you got to admit that the Cowboys focusing on the run game had great results. You can't tell me you were not happy in the 2014 season or the 1992 1993 or 1995 seasons or in 1971 or 1977. Running back matter and so the run game.
 

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I really wanted them to take Bosa, but once that option was gone I wanted trade back which didnt happen - so then for me it was take best defensive player or elliot.

I really thought they would take Ramsey, and i was'nt a fan of that as we took Byron with 1st round last year.

So for me it was the question of is there a defensive front 7 player who is a better value pick than elliot ? And truthfully i can't say that i know that.

So, not what i wanted to happen, but there is no question they got a good player. Hoping the next pick is a D Lineman.
 

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Here's why it wasn't the right pick.

With this OL, as has been proven in 2014 and to smaller extent in 2015, you don't need a perceived "elite" TB to be a successful running team. On a team with holes all over the place, having the luxury of being able to not invest top assets into a position to get great production is a luxury many teams don't have. We spent a lot of assets and, soon, money in building the best OL in football so that we wouldn't then have to worry about having an elite TB to get any production from the run game.

Further, the moment Elliott was drafted, he became a Top 10 highest paid TB in football. And if he has a good run for 5 years, his next contract is going to dwarf his rookie deal. So it's quite likely, regardless of how good Elliott is, he may only be a 5 year player for us if the Jones family holds true to not paying top dollar for RBs with NFL life on them.

So as I said in another thread............ I hope this is a great 5 year run.
 

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To everybody here on the forums that is a cowboy fan or not that was against the Cowboys drafting Ezekiel Elliot. Let me just say that drafting Elliot was the right move for the boys and here why:

I know what I'm going to say is pretty much obvious, but this team is built on a running game. We have one of the best offense line in the NFL but we lack a running back that would be able to take advantage of that offense line to the fullest potential. Yeah we had running backs before Ezekiel was drafted but they didn't had the skill that he had. Ezekiel skills were great, so great that it would be impossible for Jerry Jones and co not to grab him.

Look at last season. Lance Dunbar was injury prone as shown in the last few seasons, Darren McFadden while was a former first round pick and in my opinion did okay in his first season with the cowboys, was best use as backup for Elliot and Randle screw up. All of the RB were not starter RB.

We all seen what would happen if you put a great running back and a great offense line together. Emmett Smith and the great wall of Dallas in the 1990s, Tony Dorsett and that o-line from late 1970s to early 1980s are great examples.

It's been proven that if you run the ball more the clock runs down increasing the time of possession for that team. The 2014 Cowboys were first in time of possession controlling the ball 54% of the time and last season they were thirteen, the same season that Murray wasn't on the team. When the offense had the ball more the less the defense were on the field, making them more rested. It's great if you had a defense that is top five but what the point if they have to come back out on the field every three and out which is what happen last season.

When Murry ran the ball, Romo was able to become a better QB than he had before,Dez was able to produce better results for the team, other receivers were able to make catches, we ranked 11th in third down percentage in 2014. Why? because Demarco was able to gain enough yardage to make third down for bearable. Would you whether deal with third and ten or third and two? He was able to force the defense to focus more on him and not on Romo or the others. We were more balance that way.

I can see why people wanted Bosa or Jalen Ramsey, those two would had been great additions to the team but we make it to the playoffs and won the nfc east titles in 2014 because of the run game that we had.Ether way, I think we should all support the decision make as any addition to the team is a good one.

Look I get that some of you guys are going to counter on this post but you got to admit that the Cowboys focusing on the run game had great results. You can't tell me you were not happy in the 2014 season or the 1992 1993 or 1995 seasons or in 1971 or 1977. Running back matter and so the run game.

Exactly this young OL and this young RB will grow together and in no time will be the talk of the league. I bet the entire OL jumped with joy last night when they announced his name. Man when do the games start!
 

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To everybody here on the forums that is a cowboy fan or not that was against the Cowboys drafting Ezekiel Elliot. Let me just say that drafting Elliot was the right move for the boys and here why:

I know what I'm going to say is pretty much obvious, but this team is built on a running game. We have one of the best offense line in the NFL but we lack a running back that would be able to take advantage of that offense line to the fullest potential. Yeah we had running backs before Ezekiel was drafted but they didn't had the skill that he had. Ezekiel skills were great, so great that it would be impossible for Jerry Jones and co not to grab him.

Look at last season. Lance Dunbar was injury prone as shown in the last few seasons, Darren McFadden while was a former first round pick and in my opinion did okay in his first season with the cowboys, was best use as backup for Elliot and Randle screw up. All of the RB were not starter RB.

We all seen what would happen if you put a great running back and a great offense line together. Emmett Smith and the great wall of Dallas in the 1990s, Tony Dorsett and that o-line from late 1970s to early 1980s are great examples.

It's been proven that if you run the ball more the clock runs down increasing the time of possession for that team. The 2014 Cowboys were first in time of possession controlling the ball 54% of the time and last season they were thirteen, the same season that Murray wasn't on the team. When the offense had the ball more the less the defense were on the field, making them more rested. It's great if you had a defense that is top five but what the point if they have to come back out on the field every three and out which is what happen last season.

When Murry ran the ball, Romo was able to become a better QB than he had before,Dez was able to produce better results for the team, other receivers were able to make catches, we ranked 11th in third down percentage in 2014. Why? because Demarco was able to gain enough yardage to make third down for bearable. Would you whether deal with third and ten or third and two? He was able to force the defense to focus more on him and not on Romo or the others. We were more balance that way.

I can see why people wanted Bosa or Jalen Ramsey, those two would had been great additions to the team but we make it to the playoffs and won the nfc east titles in 2014 because of the run game that we had.Ether way, I think we should all support the decision make as any addition to the team is a good one.

Look I get that some of you guys are going to counter on this post but you got to admit that the Cowboys focusing on the run game had great results. You can't tell me you were not happy in the 2014 season or the 1992 1993 or 1995 seasons or in 1971 or 1977. Running back matter and so the run game.

If we were going to pay this much to a RB why not just pay Lamar Miller the same amount and save the 4th pick

This organization does stupid stuff all the time
 

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Well, we will see soon. If he is starting against the Giants in the opener, logging the majority of the carries, and converting the third and short yardages. Then yeah, he was the right pick.

If he can't a) stay healthy and b) beat out Morris and McFadden, the hello Houston, we have a major problem.

And yes, we are talking the opener against the Giants. RBs don't get even a few redshirt games to sit and learn. He better be starting ASAP or he is going to be labeled a bust.

I hope he is out there. Good luck to him. We need him to put up 1500 yards on the ground.
 

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The number 2 rb is still available.

The only other position where the number 2 rated prospect is still available is OG.

Do people not understand what opportunity cost is/means?

It seems not.

I have my pom-poms out for Elliott going forward, big time.
But you just pointed out something that should be very obvious.

I do think he's probably the early favorite to win Offensive ROY.
But there's a real chance that if given the carries, 4-5 other backs taken later could have been early favorites too. It's just moreso for Zeke. lol
 

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We overdrafted the easiest position to fill in the NFL. If he's not a perennial all-pro, it was a dumb pick. Even if he is, it was probably a dumb pick.

One other thing............ most of the Elliott fans sold us on the fact he's the best pick because he's an immediate impact guy. So we better be talking 1400-1600 yards minimum and 9-10 TDs minimum out of the shoot.

I don't want to see all the Elliott fans patting themselves on the back for a job well done when Elliott runs for 1,000 yards and 7 TDs his rookie year. He was supposed to much better than that, right from the start.
 

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Elliott's going to be a lot of fun to watch, and he certainly makes the team better. And who knows, he may turn out better than Ramsey. But...

We passed on the top player on our board. The draft process in Dallas is broken (again, or still). That's the big takeaway from yesterday.

When you have a bad process, you can sometimes get good results, but you're hurting yourself in the long run. The Cowboys will never build a consistent winner until they put good processes in place throughout the organization, and then stick to those processes.
 

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One other thing............ most of the Elliott fans sold us on the fact he's the best pick because he's an immediate impact guy. So we better be talking 1400-1600 yards minimum and 9-10 TDs minimum out of the shoot.

I don't want to see all the Elliott fans patting themselves on the back for a job well done when Elliott runs for 1,000 yards and 7 TDs his rookie year. He was supposed to much better than that, right from the start.

Yep.

The guy is a touchdown machine. And he doesn't fumble. I'll give him that. There is some number of touchdowns that would change my mind on him. But it was just a poor use of resources for a team that needs defensive playmakers badly.
 

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We overdrafted the easiest position to fill in the NFL. If he's not a perennial all-pro, it was a dumb pick. Even if he is, it was probably a dumb pick.

And people are praising the move.

Essentially saying for the same money they'd rather have Zeke than Lamar Miller AND Jalen Ramsey.

And then wonder why others think this is the height of stupidity.
 

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Elliott's going to be a lot of fun to watch, and he certainly makes the team better. And who knows, he may turn out better than Ramsey. But...

We passed on the top player on our board. The draft process in Dallas is broken (again, or still). That's the big takeaway from yesterday.

When you have a bad process, you can sometimes get good results, but you're hurting yourself in the long run. The Cowboys will never build a consistent winner until they put good processes in place throughout the organization, and then stick to those processes.

FWIW, some are reporting that Elliott was actually the top player on our board but the struggle was with our philosophy that we shouldn't invest a lot in TBs. But they viewed Elliott as too good to pass up.

If people are truly honest with themselves, it's pretty clear there is no real plan in the front office. They just seem to fly by the seat of their pants in terms of building a roster.
 
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