Why have we not signed Richard Incognito?

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I think allot of people would be a little nuts if they lost a well paying job that they worked hard at because someone told their mom you were a bully and you were publicly branded as a racist bully for doing what so many other people do in locker rooms. Not saying the guy is a great guy but I haven't heard anything about him that I haven't been hearing about football players forever. I would think a pending lawsuit by a bar owner for refusing to leave the bar and biting someone on the way out coupled with ACL surgery would have been a big red flag but I don't remember so many people being against that move?
 

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As desperate as this team has been to put together a decent O-line the last 3 years it makes no sense that this guy isn't a Dallas Cowboy yet.
You know your getting a dedicated football player that isn't just looking for a check and one that has something to prove.
Are the Cowboys so good that they don't need to sign a starting NFL lineman even if for no other reason than depth?
How after Pac man Jones can we sit back and pass on a guy who's only knock is that he might be TOO MEAN on the field and in the locker room?

Incognito supports Operation Homefront, an organization that provides assistance to families of service members and wounded soldiers; during the 2012 season, he hosted a private screening and book reading of the animated film Rise of the Guardians for Operation Homefront, where he led a book reading to over 100 children before the screening of the film.

In the 2012 off-season, Incognito was one of sixty-six players who took part in the NFL Business Management and Entrepreneurial Program held at Harvard Business School and the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University. He said about it that it was "a good experience just learning from those guys because they bring a ton of experience to the table" and "just a good all-around experience and it really opened up my eyes to a lot of opportunities outside of the game of football and gave me confidence moving forward with my business."

It's crazy that this guy is not a Cowboy when we were so desperate that we had Alex Barron not that long ago and were "hoping" Leary might be able to learn the position when he was signed in 2012 and needed surgery already in 2013 before the season started.

Your apparent surprise that this guy isn't a cowboy well...surprises me, greatly. He is an average player and not worth the mental instability. Someone created a thread a while back on signing him, and nothing on that front has changed. It'd be a terrible decision to sign this guy when you have an entire draft of sane and yet still nasty offensive lineman. Leary was solid and Bernadeau improved after having to step in for Waters. I'd be surprised if Incognito even stays in the league for more than a year at this point. Non issue.
 

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Incognito is not as good as Leary or Mack.

I said it.

I don't think he could push Leary out but could make Mack stay on his toes. Overall I think he would add a Romanowski/Steve Smith factor to the training camp that wouldn't be all that bad.
 

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I don't think he could push Leary out but could make Mack stay on his toes. Overall I think he would add a Romanowski/Steve Smith factor to the training camp that wouldn't be all that bad.

I don't think it would be good for this organization, either in the football and team development sense nor the public opinion and media sense.

Plus, he's just not that good.
 

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I think allot of people would be a little nuts if they lost a well paying job that they worked hard at because someone told their mom you were a bully and you were publicly branded as a racist bully for doing what so many other people do in locker rooms. Not saying the guy is a great guy but I haven't heard anything about him that I haven't been hearing about football players forever. I would think a pending lawsuit by a bar owner for refusing to leave the bar and biting someone on the way out coupled with ACL surgery would have been a big red flag but I don't remember so many people being against that move?

He has a LONG history of being nutty that started before the Miami stuff. It's been discussed on this board before. No thanks to that goof.
 

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I don't think he could push Leary out but could make Mack stay on his toes. Overall I think he would add a Romanowski/Steve Smith factor to the training camp that wouldn't be all that bad.

Romanowski/Steve Smith were/are better players than Incognito.
 

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I wouldn't want his influence anywhere around Tyron Smith. I know Smith would be able to hand himself, but he is still young and I would not even risk that kind of cancer around Tyron.
 

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Got to catch up on "Hardknocks" W/ the 2008 Cowboys during Dallas Week on the NFL Network. And the one thing I noticed was all the knuckleheads that team had....And since Garrett has become head coach we don't have nearly the same amount of "cancer" players.

So glad to see the immature players like Owens, Martellus Bennett, Pacman, Tank Johnson, Barber, Crayton...all gone.

Garrett may not be able to coach....but @ least he has cleaned up the culture to some extent.

We don't need to regress back to that type of player....or controversy

Yep and you got to love the results to show for all that cancer cleaning!

Hey you ever think that maybe Jason Garrett is the cancer?
 

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I think allot of people would be a little nuts if they lost a well paying job that they worked hard at because someone told their mom you were a bully and you were publicly branded as a racist bully for doing what so many other people do in locker rooms. Not saying the guy is a great guy but I haven't heard anything about him that I haven't been hearing about football players forever. I would think a pending lawsuit by a bar owner for refusing to leave the bar and biting someone on the way out coupled with ACL surgery would have been a big red flag but I don't remember so many people being against that move?

While in college at Nebraska he was suspended indefinitely twice, including once by our own Bill Callahan. Transferred to the University of Oregon and was dismissed from the team one week later. Was waived by the St. Louis Rams during the 2009 season after getting into a heated confrontation with head coach Steve Spagnuolo. Picked up by the Bills for the last 3 games of that season and they chose not to resign him. We all now how things turned out in Miami. And you think that somehow things are going to go well if he joins the Cowboys?
 

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St. Louis Rams[edit]
2005 season[edit]
Drafted by the St Louis Rams in the 3rd round of the 2005 draft (81st overall). As a rookie in 2005, he was on the reserved/unsigned list until Week 3, then placed on the non-football injury list for the remainder of the season.[15]

2006 season[edit]
Incognito started all 16 games at three different positions, due to injuries and illness to the Rams' offensive line. That year he blocked for an offense which produced a 4,000-yard passer, a 1,500-yard rusher, and two 1,000-yard receivers, one of only four offenses in NFL history to accomplish the feat.[7]

2007 season[edit]
Incognito played and started at right guard for four games after being inactive for the first four weeks of the season. In early November, Incognito suffered a knee injury that forced him to miss the remainder of season.[15] However, while rehabilitating, it was later revealed that he had been partying nightly.[16]

2008 season[edit]
Incognito started 15 games at right guard for the Rams, also seeing some playing time at center. On October 17, Incognito was fined three times for a total of $35,000 after the game versus the Washington Commanders.[17] His violations during the game included the repeated verbal abuse of a game official, performing a "major face mask" penalty, and performing a chop block penalty. (which wasn't called during the game.) Incognito's behavior nearly lead to a loss after his antics cost the Rams 15 yards before the eventual game-winning field goal.[18]

Incognito was part of the offensive line that allowed 45 sacks. Although this was still within in the top 10 in terms of sacks allowed, it was the fewest allowed by the Rams since 2003. Following the 2008 season, Incognito became a restricted free agent, although he continued to work out with the Rams during the offseason.[19]

2009 season[edit]
On April 17, 2009, the Rams offered Incognito a one-year tender worth $1.01 million, which he signed on May 3.[20] Incognito started all nine games in which he played for the Rams in 2009. On December 13, during the first half of a 47-7 loss to the Tennessee Titans, Incognito drew two 15-yard penalties for headbutting Titans players. Head coach Steve Spagnuolo benched him for the second half, and the two got into a heated confrontation on the sidelines. It was the second time Incognito had been benched for losing his composure; he'd been pulled from the season opener against Seattle for two personal fouls. However, the Titans incident was the last straw; the Rams waived him two days after the game.[21] In 2013, former Rams general manager Billy Devaney told ESPN that Spagnuolo had given Incognito numerous chances to clean up his act, and had put him on notice that the Rams would cut ties with him if he couldn't control his anger.[22]

The two personal fouls led to a $50,000 fine from the NFL and a letter from the league office warning him that "future infractions of the types you have committed may lead to increased disciplinary action up to and including suspension."[23] In four years with the Rams from 2006 to 2009, Incognito drew 38 penalties, including seven unnecessary roughness calls, more than any other player during that span.[16]

Buffalo Bills[edit]
2009 season[edit]
Incognito was awarded to the Buffalo Bills off waivers on December 16, with the Miami Dolphins also submitting a claim.[24][25] Incognito started the final three games of the season at right guard and helped block for Buffalo running back Fred Jackson's 212-yard rushing performance vs. Indianapolis (1/3/10).[15] Incognito was a restricted free agent and the Bills declined to re-sign him. [26]

Miami Dolphins[edit]
On March 17, 2010, Incognito signed a one-year deal with the Miami Dolphins.[27]

2010 season[edit]
In 2010, the Miami Dolphins signed Incognito to a one-year deal in order to help strengthen their offensive line. Incognito started all 16 games of the season playing left guard and center. According to Pro Football Focus he was ranked in the Top 20 for Pass Blocking Efficiency.[28]

2011 season[edit]
In 2011, the Dolphins re-signed Incognito, this time to a three-year deal. Incognito started 15 games and allowed just 1.5 sacks on the year.

2012 season[edit]
During the Dolphins' annual celebrity golf tournament at the Turnberry Isle Resort and Club in Aventura, Florida, a drunken Incognito harassed a female volunteer at the club. He rubbed her private parts with a golf club, pressed his private parts against her buttocks and dumped water in her face. The matter was referred to Dolphins security. Although former Dolphins wide receiver Nat Moore apologized to her, the volunteer filed a police report after Incognito didn't personally apologize; the matter was later settled after she signed a confidentiality agreement. This incident didn't come to public light until November 2013.[29] Dolphins coach Joe Philbinsubsequently confirmed that the Dolphins were aware of the situation, and had taken "immediate action" in response; he didn't elaborate.[30]

Despite this, Incognito started all 16 games of the 2012 season at left guard.[31] Incognito made his first Pro Bowl appearance after the 2012 season.[32]

2013 season[edit]
On November 3, 2013, the Dolphins suspended Incognito for alleged misconduct related to the treatment of teammate Jonathan Martin, who left the team a week earlier to receive help for emotional issues. Incognito's conduct was said to be detrimental to the team.[33] On February 4, 2014, Incognito's suspension was lifted.[34]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richie_Incognito
 

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As desperate as this team has been to put together a decent O-line the last 3 years it makes no sense that this guy isn't a Dallas Cowboy yet.
You know your getting a dedicated football player that isn't just looking for a check and one that has something to prove.
Are the Cowboys so good that they don't need to sign a starting NFL lineman even if for no other reason than depth?
How after Pac man Jones can we sit back and pass on a guy who's only knock is that he might be TOO MEAN on the field and in the locker room?

Incognito supports Operation Homefront, an organization that provides assistance to families of service members and wounded soldiers; during the 2012 season, he hosted a private screening and book reading of the animated film Rise of the Guardians for Operation Homefront, where he led a book reading to over 100 children before the screening of the film.

In the 2012 off-season, Incognito was one of sixty-six players who took part in the NFL Business Management and Entrepreneurial Program held at Harvard Business School and the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University. He said about it that it was "a good experience just learning from those guys because they bring a ton of experience to the table" and "just a good all-around experience and it really opened up my eyes to a lot of opportunities outside of the game of football and gave me confidence moving forward with my business."

It's crazy that this guy is not a Cowboy when we were so desperate that we had Alex Barron not that long ago and were "hoping" Leary might be able to learn the position when he was signed in 2012 and needed surgery already in 2013 before the season started.
He is not any better than Bern and Leary and he would not be worth the trouble as a backup.
 

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It's crazy that this guy is not a Cowboy when we were so desperate that we had Alex Barron not that long ago and were "hoping" Leary might be able to learn the position when he was signed in 2012 and needed surgery already in 2013 before the season started.

Wow, going all the way back to 2010 and Alex Barron to make your case for Incognito, signs of a desperate man.
 

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I will go on a ledge and assume that there are more teams like the cowboys who have offensive line needs.

so the question is why hasn't any team signed him yet? that should give you enough clue....

Most teams shy away from that kinda controversial pick up but the Cowboys have a rich history of signing off step players going back to Charles Haley and Tank Johnson just to name a couple so they're capable of handling it better than some.
 

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Is he stable? Seriously, I'll pass and draft a G. We aren't that bad on OL, if he was a DL, I might take a shot.

I couldn't agree more. Why have dead money on the books on a guy that may be out of the league or dead soon. And no I don't wish him death, but I do wish him a recovery. The man has issues.
 

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As desperate as this team has been to put together a decent O-line the last 3 years it makes no sense that this guy isn't a Dallas Cowboy yet.
You know your getting a dedicated football player that isn't just looking for a check and one that has something to prove.
Are the Cowboys so good that they don't need to sign a starting NFL lineman even if for no other reason than depth?
How after Pac man Jones can we sit back and pass on a guy who's only knock is that he might be TOO MEAN on the field and in the locker room?

Incognito supports Operation Homefront, an organization that provides assistance to families of service members and wounded soldiers; during the 2012 season, he hosted a private screening and book reading of the animated film Rise of the Guardians for Operation Homefront, where he led a book reading to over 100 children before the screening of the film.

In the 2012 off-season, Incognito was one of sixty-six players who took part in the NFL Business Management and Entrepreneurial Program held at Harvard Business School and the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University. He said about it that it was "a good experience just learning from those guys because they bring a ton of experience to the table" and "just a good all-around experience and it really opened up my eyes to a lot of opportunities outside of the game of football and gave me confidence moving forward with my business."

It's crazy that this guy is not a Cowboy when we were so desperate that we had Alex Barron not that long ago and were "hoping" Leary might be able to learn the position when he was signed in 2012 and needed surgery already in 2013 before the season started.

Last I read, he has to clear a medical evaluation by the league before anybody can sign him.

As others have said, he is not good enough for the circus he would create if he signed here.
 

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Most teams shy away from that kinda controversial pick up but the Cowboys have a rich history of signing off step players going back to Charles Haley and Tank Johnson just to name a couple so they're capable of handling it better than some.

I am not opposed to it, but it takes strong leadership and strong locker room. when we signed haley, he was probably the best at his position at the time, so its also weighing the risks vs. rewards. we also had Aikman, Johnson, Emmitt, Irvin and a stronger organization to keep the team focused.

tank Johnson didn't work out.

I don't think our team, in current state can absorb anyone controversial and I think given the cleanup we have done since Garrett has become the HC (one of few positives during his tenure), is that we cleaned up the locker room. we don't need a Richie incognito unless we feel we are that one or two players away and that we have the leadership to keep him inline. I don't think either of the two applies to us.
 
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