Why I prefer Matt Jones over Bolden

[joseephuss]

I would rather people say they're for or against.

If the team likes the player, use your resources to get him.

If they don't, don't.

But to have a take-it-or-leave-it approach doesn't make much sense to me.

At that point, why bother at all?

That sounds contradictory. If one is saying they are either for it or against it, then they are having a take-it-or-leave-it approach.

I am against trading for him and open to picking him up after he is cut. That is not a take-it-or-leave-it approach.

But if I must choose only between do or don't. I choose don't.

If the team does like Boldin and wants to use their resources, then they can offer a 1st, 2nd and 6th for him.

 

[Stash]

That sounds contradictory. If one is saying they are either for it or against it, then they are having a take-it-or-leave-it approach.

I am against trading for him and open to picking him up after he is cut. That is not a take-it-or-leave-it approach.

But if I must choose only between do or don't. I choose don't.

Fair enough. At least you made a decision rather than taking the 'if he falls to us we'll take him' approach. I just can't see an NFL team doing that. At that point, why bother? You either like the guy or you don't.

If the team does like Boldin and wants to use their resources, then they can offer a 1st, 2nd and 6th for him.

Fine, then they can just send the extra 4th rounder they picked up in this year's draft for Jones!

See what you did?

Happy now?

:laugh2:

 

[Hoofbite]

Miles Austin is not a threat to anyone. If a defender is near him, he won't catch the ball.

I wouldn't take 15-20 catches from either Witten or TO. Can you name me any player heretofore mentioned that is better after the catch than TO or Witt? Would Boldin be happy with only 50 catches a year? Would you be willing to pay 100 catch kinda money for 50 catches a year? Do you think we let Canty, or some similar quality player leave because we spent all our money on a secondary target? Do you think that there won't be a receiver we can draft or sign in the next three years to replace TO?

I would love to have another playmaker on the field, but the truth is, unless we are going to throw 50-60 timesa game, there is no need. Now if TO gets hurt...........

If you get behind your defender, teams have to account for you. Plain and simple, Austin was beating his man and if he continues to do so, teams will have to respect that.

And I really don't think Witten or TO would care if the team was winning. Winning is the bottom line and you cannot tell me that at this point TO would give up the chance to win just to catch 1 extra ball per game.

Matt Jones over Boldin in any capacity is a joke.

 

[fortdick]

If you get behind your defender, teams have to account for you. Plain and simple, Austin was beating his man and if he continues to do so, teams will have to respect that.

And I really don't think Witten or TO would care if the team was winning. Winning is the bottom line and you cannot tell me that at this point TO would give up the chance to win just to catch 1 extra ball per game.

Matt Jones over Boldin in any capacity is a joke.

TO is thinking a couple things. Winning a superbowl and making the probowl the next three years. Why? Because he has to do that to get into the HoF. He ain't gonna do that sharing receptions with another blue chip receiver. He likes being Romo's only real choice at WR. Crayton is a good number 3, and maybe a fair number 2, but make no mistake, TO is happy because he is the man.

I don't know how many times I got to say it. Boldin is much better than Jones. But we don't need Boldin. We need a solid number 2 receiver. At least a threat of a solid number 2. After the Giant game I am not convinced Crayton is the guy.

 

[Hoofbite]

TO is thinking a couple things. Winning a superbowl and making the probowl the next three years. Why? Because he has to do that to get into the HoF. He ain't gonna do that sharing receptions with another blue chip receiver. He likes being Romo's only real choice at WR. Crayton is a good number 3, and maybe a fair number 2, but make no mistake, TO is happy because he is the man.

I don't know how many times I got to say it. Boldin is much better than Jones. But we don't need Boldin. We need a solid number 2 receiver. At least a threat of a solid number 2. After the Giant game I am not convinced Crayton is the guy.

And you are convinced that Matt Jones can be that guy?

Boldin isn't just a #2, hes capable as a #1 and would dominate as a #2 with TO opposite him and Witten in the middle.

You're right, Dallas doesn't need Boldin. But they also don't need Matt Jones in any way, shape or form. Give the option between the two, you'd be a fool to pass on Boldin for another project, #4/#5 receiver.

 

[fortdick]

And you are convinced that Matt Jones can be that guy?

Boldin isn't just a #2, hes capable as a #1 and would dominate as a #2 with TO opposite him and Witten in the middle.

You're right, Dallas doesn't need Boldin. But they also don't need Matt Jones in any way, shape or form. Give the option between the two, you'd be a fool to pass on Boldin for another project, #4/#5 receiver.

I don't know if Matt Jones is that guy. Could be Stanback. Could be Amendiola. Could be Rowdy. What I think is we would be better off with a tue number 2 than another number 1 wannabe that will cry if he doesn't get the ball, cost us a ton of money, and take catches away from our two best playmaking receivers.

BEcause of that, I would rather see Jerruh go after Jones than Boldin. Just like I would rather he go after Chris Simms than Carson Palmer. We need a backup QB. By everyone's feeling, we should bring in Brady or Manning (the real Manning). He can platoon with Romo.

Everyone needs to put Madden away. That ain't happening. We are going to run the ball more this year. Boldin woud cost an arm and a leg and cry because he didn;t get the ball enough. Or would you take the ball away from TO? We know how that will go over.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Now, before you think that I have been sniffing glue

Too late.

 

[BigDFan5]

you've been sniffing glue

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Maybe running a forty... but not on the football field, or not by much. He doesn't play nearly to his timed speed.

OK, I was going with everyone on the sniffing glue part, but I think you might need your inhaler Asthma. Jones IS fast and PLAYS fast, too. Don't be disillusioned by your desire to have Boldin or Williams on the team (I seriously don't mean that in a bad way). If you are talking pure speed right now, Crayton, Hurd, Austin, Stanback - well, maybe Standback - can't run a 4.37. A lot of expectations were put on Jones because of his combine, but he's still learning the position. He didn't produce in the Jax system, but maybe he can produce in the Boys.

With that said, I'd rather see Boldin or Williams rather than Jones. If we can't get those two, lets give the yunguns a chance. They seem to be coming along nicely. The advantage of not have TO or Glenn at the mini-camp is Romo is getting plenty of time with them. We may have one of the best receiving corps and don't realize it yet.

 

[BuckyG]

It's slow this time of year and everyone is speculating on how to add that final piece to win another Superbowl. My input is that we get Matt Jones and leave the Boldin's and R.Williams'es out of it. The latter won't help while Jones could really make the difference.

Now, before you think that I have been sniffing glue, think about what we have right now. Witten will get 90-100 receptions. TO will get 80-90. F. Jones and MBIII will get another 50 between them. Crayton might get 30-40. And a smattering of however will get another 20-30. If we throw in a Boldin or Williams, when are they going to get the ball? Who do you take catches from? TO? Witten? The RB's?

We need a guy who is a legitimate threat, not that they will get the ball, but to spread the defense and make them play honest. Crayton and Hurd are not fast enough. Austin is, but most folks know he doesn't run great routes and if he leaves his hands out overnight they will rust. Stanback is a possibility, but we aren't hearing anyone singing his praises, so I think that experiment is still in progress.

Matt Jones, or a Matt Jones like substance, would force free safeties to play honest. If they cheat over to TO's side, then they risk a big, fast guy taking it up the other sideline one on one with a corner. Even if you only throw the ball to him a couple times a game, he will impact the way defenses play.

Do you think Boldin or Williams would be happy in that role? Would you be willing to take the ball out of Witt's or TO's hands? We need a guy that is willing to take his one or two catches a game and not complain. Someone with a lot of speed and a small ego.

Signing TO to the extension said a lot about what the plans are for the next couple years at WR. I don't expect to see any big names in here until TO's game starts to slip. I wouldn't take a big name WR right now if he fell into our lap. Not enough balls to go around.

Now that I have spoken on the issue, it is a closed matter and we can move on and not discuss adding, Williams, Boldin, or even Johnson.

So, if you have a lot of good players, make sure to add bad players so that the good players' numbers won't be adversely affected. By this logic, the Cowboys should have kept Jacques Reeves to make sure Terrence Newman didn't get thrown at more often.