Why I stopped caring about Player Contracts

[CowboyRoy]

Owners and the players union are a tedious partnership. One side does not dictate total terms.

At one time, rookie contracts skyrocketed. Veterans balked. They made up the bulk of the union and emphasized the change. The owners agreed to the stipulation as a cap-savings measure.

Their collective bargaining agreement employs a vested minimum salary structure. That serves as the base of the salary cap mechanism, which has a hard annual ceiling. All team player contractual values remain fluid within that range, which mandates constantly adjusting individual contracts to fit within the union/league agreed upon restriction.

A scalable standard pay structure (which I agree with in principle by the way) would force a re-negotiation of the current CBA framework that has been continually re-ratified since 1993. It would be necessary for the players to agree upon positional pay scales dependent upon various factors.

I think the proposal is doable but would hinge upon (in my opinion) the union obtaining a +50% share of all revenues. The owners would likely fight that modification harder than what has been witnessed in owner/union negotiations in the past, including what was seen during the strike-ridden 1980's. However, an agreement would make player contracts more manageable from top-to-bottom within any team's salary cap year-to-year.

Here is one guy hoping at some point the owners lock the players out and put them in their place until these salaries get back to something reasonable. Its just ridiculous at this point.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I was not baiting anyone, was just posting comments. I can't help some have different takes on any posts and interpret them differently. Mostly if one agrees or want to disagree according to their own Frame of mind an thoughts. ........ To MAY To .. or ..To MAH To .....

Just like you are trying to bait me now.

So your not baiting me, but I am baiting you? The irony.

 

[DallasEast]

Here is one guy hoping at some point the owners lock the players out and put them in their place until these salaries get back to something reasonable. Its just ridiculous at this point.

You got all that from a hypothetical response to another member?

 

[Diehardblues]

But how can a devoted fan ignore who they pay and what they pay when it directly affect your enjoyment as a fan? Success or lack thereof? I dont see how you dont care about it. To me it’s like you dont care

We must remember who presented this thread. A fan whose greatest passion is building the team. They aren’t as concerned about if it crumbles or why. They’ll just offer their expertise in how to rebuild .

 

[Diehardblues]

Because it's not possible to ignore it. Think of a casual Titans fan that doesn't bother himself with contracts and cap. He's going to want to know why AJ Brown was traded. It had nothing to do with him lacking talent.

Yep, it’s not that he doesn’t want to be aware of it. He just doesn’t want to dwell on the negativity of it. His mindset works for him.

He’s a builder . An engineer by craft. They are enterally positive mindset. Not interested in critique. Just build it . If it crashes and burns. Rebuild it.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

One thing he's right about, Pollard has been the better back for the last 4 years. No one expected him to be in 2019, but it turned out that way. What team gives the 2nd best back more carries?

He's been the better back for the last 4 years? Yeah I disagree there. I'l concede the past two seasons....

And we can complain about who got more carries and who didn't but at the end of the day the past two years they are coming off 24 wins. So the share was working and it was keeping Pollard fresh.

It seems this team ran Demarco into the ground, ran Zeke into the ground....and the move is to do it again? To a guy who has been a part time back since high school?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Because it's not possible to ignore it. Think of a casual Titans fan that doesn't bother himself with contracts and cap. He's going to want to know why AJ Brown was traded. It had nothing to do with him lacking talent.

I remember when Eagles traded for AJ Brown and he had been struggling . Statistically anyway. Had knee surgery and a few injuries. People thought he fell off. He's a emotional guy and got pissed off they didn't offer him 100 million and rightfully so. Eagles had no issues doing it. AJ wanted to leave them though.

 

[jazzcat22]

Yep, it’s not that he doesn’t want to be aware of it. He just doesn’t want to dwell on the negativity of it. His mindset works for him.

He’s a builder . An engineer by craft. They are enterally positive mindset. Not interested in critique. Just build it . If it crashes and burns. Rebuild it.

We used to have a saying when designing aircraft engines...if you want to get ahead, blow up an engine (in test). Because it shows you are trying to improve it. And are doing something.

Now no one took that literally, but you get the idea.

 

[JBS]

Which other player? This is not yahoo fantasy football. Players that are worth it often get tagged and resigned. Older, ineffective, over their prime or often injured players make it to the FA. Or you have to trade for one.

This if we had cap we can build and sign players we want is nothing but a myth

Yes. No good players are available.

 

[JBS]

Of course it can matter. But....what ya gonna do about it? Hate the player for it? Ridiculous.

What are you talking about. This has nothing to do w that

 

[Jumbo075]

Yep, it’s not that he doesn’t want to be aware of it. He just doesn’t want to dwell on the negativity of it. His mindset works for him.

He’s a builder . An engineer by craft. They are enterally positive mindset. Not interested in critique. Just build it . If it crashes and burns. Rebuild it.

This is a true statement. It is why I am involved more on the forum during this time of the year than any other time. I create plans for a living, and then oversee the implementation of those plans by others. Hire the people with the talent I don’t have, and watch them carry out the plan I created.

I used to keep the salary spreadsheet to assist in the planning. I find math to be entertaining. (Yes, I know that’s weird.) But I am losing enthusiasm for even this part of the NFL. The constant annual focus on QB’s in the draft, and the top 10 prospects is tedious. It is more entertaining to get into examining the bottom 246 picks than it is the top 10 guys.

Also, I am getting too busy to pay as close attention as I used to do. So, the Cowboys are simply a pleasant (sometimes) distraction, and not a passion anymore.

 

[Jumbo075]

Yep, it’s not that he doesn’t want to be aware of it. He just doesn’t want to dwell on the negativity of it. His mindset works for him.

He’s a builder . An engineer by craft. They are enterally positive mindset. Not interested in critique. Just build it . If it crashes and burns. Rebuild it.

Well said, Greg. Although, good positive critique can be very helpful. Complaining is never helpful. It’s boring and unproductive.

For example: Dak’s not going anywhere. So complaining about him has no value. Get busy trying to figure out how to win WITH him is what you do. In a very similar way, complaining about trying to build on clay soil in North Texas is a pointless discussion. You have to deal with and overcome the constraints that are in place. It’s not like you aren’t aware of them. In fact, you must be super aware of them. You just find a way to work around them to build a successful project.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Cant talk about Pollard without talking about Zeke.

Buddy Zeke was featured for 3 years over Pollard. It was only until last year that Pollard got close to 50/50. Pollard got those carries because he was so amazing they couldnt keep him off the field.

And why shouldnt I talk about Zeke? The guy was finally released after 4 years of not wanting him on this team. Fans telling me I didnt know what I was talking about. Saying Pollard sucks and Zeke was a top 5 RB. LOL

He finally got cut a month ago. This is celebration time. Why should I not rub it in to those people that got it all wrong and insulted me every day for my stance?

So the Cowboys will pass up BIjan Robinson this year then right? Why are the Cowboys so active at looking for RB prospects as well as trying to sign Pollard long term? ITs because they understand what you don't. Pollard is not a 20 carry a game back. Wasn't in college and isn't in the pros. But your issue is you are too stuck on Zeke to see that.

And keep rubbing it in peoples face. Its embarrassing because Zeke is gone and its one of the best times of the year and you're still stuck on Zeke lol. Just because Zeke got cut doesn't make you right lol. That's what's funny. Because trust me I can really call you out on all the dumb stuff you have said over the years but most of us don't even care enough to even mention it.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

What are you talking about. This has nothing to do w that

I'm talking about people that hated zeke because of the contract.


It sorta has something to do with "contracts" like the title says.

 

[Acceptablename]

The Cowboys have proven that they can keep who they want to keep by restructuring deals, and extending contracts. Then, if a player stops playing to his contract, they have enough flexibility to cut him (see Zeke Elliott) and absorb the CAP hit. I used to keep a huge spread sheet tracking each player salary, and CAP hits by year. But the money has gotten crazy with the new TV contracts, so it doesn't really matter anymore. Is Jalen Hurts worth 2-1/2 times Peyton Manning when he joined Denver in 2013? Just 10 years ago? Of course not. But it doesn't matter.

The Cowboys pay a staff of accountants to strategize on CAP management. So, since the money is ridiculous, and since the Cowboys can keep whomever they want to keep, why do fans need to care at all? Of course Dak isn't worth $40M/ year. But Diggs isn't worth $20M/year either. It's not my money. And the salaries are ridiculous. I've stopped caring. It's all click bait to me, and I'm not going to bite.

Well we are fans realize to some extent that the cap is a limited pie with good stuff inside that you have to buy. I want more good stuff

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

He's been the better back for the last 4 years? Yeah I disagree there. I'l concede the past two seasons....

And we can complain about who got more carries and who didn't but at the end of the day the past two years they are coming off 24 wins. So the share was working and it was keeping Pollard fresh.

It seems this team ran Demarco into the ground, ran Zeke into the ground....and the move is to do it again? To a guy who has been a part time back since high school?

That's two careers Zeke helped make. A shame Tony got injured but he is VERY fresh for this many years.

 

[JayFord]

I never cared because I kinda found it odd for fans to care what the players make

If so and so makes 20 million what does that have to do with us? Who said they were going to spend that money on what you wanted or the position you feel needs to be upgraded

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Well we are fans realize to some extent that the cap is a limited pie with good stuff inside that you have to buy. I want more good stuff

What many fans should realize there's nothing much to be done about it. It's a nice talking point, sure. But I don't think we should draw lines in the sand about it.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I never cared because I kinda found it odd for fans to care what the players make

If so and so makes 20 million what does that have to do with us? Who said they were going to spend that money on what you wanted or the position you feel needs to be upgraded

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That's two careers Zeke helped make. A shame Tony got injured but he is VERY fresh for this many years.

Yep. Otherwise he probably would've got the boot this year. And they will keep him fresh by taking a RB this year I believe.