Why is Tiger Woods so classless?

[InmanRoshi]

What's the difference between intentionally shanking a drive and intentionally shanking a putt

I don't know ... you tell me. If Tiger has a shot at birdie at the final hole and has a 12 stroke lead, should he purposely shank the final putt to keep the rest of the golfers from looking bad? I happen to think that a (highly paid) competitor should try his best at all times? Some people think that other people's feelings and their self esteem are more important. What if sinking that final putt made Mickelson cry or not feel good about himself? Maybe that's why he's fat and has manboobs .. he's an emotional eater. He's going to die an early death from heart disease, and it's all Tiger's fault.

Also, part of the purpose of running out the score by only rushing is to END the game quickly.

What if the opponent can't stop your running game because they're worn down at the end of thegame, and you're immasculating them by pushing them backwards and collecting 8-12 yard per carry? It may embarrass them if you keep running the ball. And if the entire objective at that point of the game is to keep the clock running, why is Gibbs throwing and attempting onside kicks? Kind of defeats the purpose.

 

[D-TownRadio]

I saw this thread and I had to come back.

I for some reason would not doubt that if Tiger shot a 80+ at a course, the employees would put up a poster or something of the kind that "Tiger shot and 80 here."

What? Shot an 80+? On what course? Maybe when he was 3... The point in golf is to have the lowest score! so no he never runs up the score and as far as basketball goes YOU HAVE TO KEEP SCORING! if you just stand around with the ball to long you have to give it to the other team! Football you can let the time run out tke the 3 instead of going for it when you are up 40 and the other team has no chance. No matter how hard you try you can not make this into a good thing it was classless and just makes them look even more guilty as cheaters because they need to defend them selves like this. And don't give me that stuff that well they are still winning without the tapes because now they have Stallworth Welker and Moss! and thats just the O come on people they are skum.

 

[theogt]

I don't know ... you tell me. If Tiger has a shot at birdie at the final hole and has a 12 stroke lead, should he purposely shank the final putt to keep the rest of the golfers from looking bad. I happen to think that a (highly paid) competitor should try his best at all times. Some people think that other people's feelings and their self esteem is more important.

You seem to be missing the point. The stupidity in him intentionally shanking the putt is what makes the analogy dumb.

 

[ajk23az]

What? Shot an 80+? On what course? Maybe when he was 3... The point in golf is to have the lowest score! so no he never runs up the score and as far as basketball goes YOU HAVE TO KEEP SCORING! if you just stand around with the ball to long you have to give it to the other team! Football you can let the time run out tke the 3 instead of going for it when you are up 40 and the other team has no chance. No matter how hard you try you can not make this into a good thing it was classless and just makes them look even more guilty as cheaters because they need to defend them selves like this. And don't give me that stuff that well they are still winning without the tapes because now they have Stallworth Welker and Moss! and thats just the O come on people they are skum.

Ummmmmm, i actually have no idea what you are talking about.

Me. I have been arguing all night it has been classless of the Pats.

And please note the "ifs" in my post.

Im really confused by you here.

 

[D-TownRadio]

I don't know ... you tell me. If Tiger has a shot at birdie at the final hole and has a 12 stroke lead, should he purposely shank the final putt to keep the rest of the golfers from looking bad. I happen to think that a (highly paid) competitor should try his best at all times? Some people think that other people's feelings and their self esteem are more important. What if sinking that final putt made Mickelson cry or not feel good about himself? Maybe that's why he's fat and has manboobs .. he's an emotional eater. He's going to die an early death from heart disease, and it's all Tiger's fault.

DUDE JUST STOP! You are embarassing your self! Give it a rest! Let me explain something to you by tiger not doing well or purposly shanking a put it effects his score possibly giving the other players a lead in football running out the clock or kicking a FG when your up 40 does not take points away from them.

 

[TheCount]

I agree with your point, but I don't think golf is a good comparison. A sport that is timed like basketball is a better comparison than a sport like, tennis, golf or baseball that doesn't have a clock. The clock has a lot to say about whether a team has a realistic chance of coming back to win.

Also, Jordan sat the bench in many games when his team had a big lead.

It's not even close to Basketball. In basketball you have a shot clock, so you either take the shot or just give the ball to the other team. In football, you've got a huge lead and are imposing your will, you can grind minutes off that clock without giving the other team a chance to try and catch up.

 

[Dallas]

DUDE JUST STOP! You are embarassing your self! Give it a rest! Let me explain something to you by tiger not doing well or purposly shanking a put it effects his score possibly giving the other players a lead in football running out the clock or kicking a FG when your up 40 does not take points away from them.

Don't listen to him IR.


Please continue. :laugh2:

 

[D-TownRadio]

Ummmmmm, i actually have no idea what you are talking about.

Me. I have been arguing all night it has been classless of the Pats.

And please note the "ifs" in my post.

Im really confused by you here.

Oh sorry bout that... I just can't believe that these people are defending this guy. I mean I hate the skins and all but come on.

 

[D-TownRadio]

Don't listen to him IR.


Please continue. :laugh2:

You are just mean! We shouldn't make fun of the kids on the short buss! LOL :laugh2:

 

[InmanRoshi]

It's not even close to Basketball. In basketball you have a shot clock, so you either take the shot or just give the ball to the other team. In football, you've got a huge lead and are imposing your will, you can grind minutes off that clock without giving the other team a chance to try and catch up.

If Gibbs is calling timeouts, throwing the ball, in the hurry up offense and calling onside kicks ... obviously he doesn't want the clock to wind down. Why is it "classy" or merciful to force something on the opponent when they clearly don't want it?

 

[Royal Laegotti]

I saw this thread and I had to come back.

I for some reason would not doubt that if Tiger shot a 80+ at a course, the employees would put up a poster or something of the kind that "Tiger shot and 80 here."

I was being sarcastic, I agree, my arguement was that golfers compete against each other.

 

[InmanRoshi]

You seem to be missing the point. The stupidity in him intentionally shanking the putt is what makes the analogy dumb.

Either you're trying your hardest and giving your best effort or you're not. People don't have a problem when Tiger is trying his hardest until the very end, even when the outcome is decided and the rest of the field is in the clubhouse, but they expect the Patriots to quit trying their hardest 3/4 into the mach for the sake of sparing someone's feelings. Highly paid professional's feelings.

 

[Hostile]

In tournaments where he has a double digit stroke lead, why is he still trying to make birdie on the final hole? He's obviously trying to show up the other playesrs.

I also noticed Michael Jordan intentionally tried to make his shots when the Bulls were clearly the better team and winning by large margins.

What are we teaching our children? That it's okay to be a whole lot better than the other kids? What about the other kids self esteem? Why can't they all get first place trophies?

Hmm. I have never heard of this in golf.

Football on the other hand...

 

[theogt]

Either you're trying your hardest and giving your best effort or you're not. People don't have a problem when Tiger is trying his hardest until the very end, even when the outcome is decided and the rest of the field is in the clubhouse, but they expect the Patriots to quit trying their hardest for the sake 3/4 into the mach for the sake of sparing someone's feelings.

Here's the difference in the simplest of terms:

In golf, there's no merciful way for Tiger to end the tournament quickly.

In football, there is a merciful way for the Patriots to end the game quickly.

Having the option to be merciful and not taking it is classless. Not having the option and not taking it, is not.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Here's the difference in simplest terms:

In golf, there's no merciful way for Tiger to end the tournament quickly.

In football, there is a merciful way for the Patriots to end the game quickly.

Having the option to be merciful and not taking it is classless. Not having the option and not taking it, is not.

But if the other team is in the hurry up, calling time outs and throwing the ball ... they don't want the game ended quickly. They obviously want to keep playing for as long as possible. So how is it merciful to force something on them that they obviously don't want?

 

[Doomsday]

In golf you are fighting the course to put up the best score you can over a 4 day period. Yes you are competing against other players but really all you can do is control is your own play. The anagoly makes no sense at all compared to a team sport where you are directly competing against another team in a timed game.

 

[theogt]

But if the other team is in the hurry up, calling time outs and throwing the ball ... they don't want the game ended quickly. They obviously want to keep playing for as long as possible. So how is it merciful to force something on them that they obviously don't want?

They simply do not want to appear spineless. One has nothing to do with the other.

 

[InmanRoshi]

They simply do not want to appear spineless. One has nothing to do with the other.

In baseball, wouldn't the most merciful and quickest way to end a blowout be to purposely bunt the ball to the pitcher on the first pitch every at bat so he could promptly throw you out? Or at least swing wildly at the first three pitches for a quick strikeout. Why do batters continue to take pitches, draw walks, make hits and drive in runs?

 

[gbrittain]

1. I do not care if the Pats run up the score.

2. The Pats are running up the score.

3. It is classless, I just do not care.

4. It will come back around.

5. Making an anology between football and golf does not work.

6. Tiger Wood fans do not scream when Mickelson is in mid swing...Patriot fans should not scream when Campbell is about to throw.

 

[Hostile]

In baseball, wouldn't the most merciful and quickest way to end a game when you're up by 9 runs be to purposely bunt the ball to the pitcher on the first pitch every at bat so he could promptly throw you out? Why do batters continue to take pitches, draw walks, make hits and drive in runs?

They quit trying to steal bases, bunt runners over, etc.

Your analogy is really poor.