Why is Tiger Woods so classless?

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InmanRoshi;1734193 said:
In baseball, wouldn't the most mercifull and quickest way to end a game when you're up by 9 runs be to purposely bunt the ball to the pitcher on the first pitch every play so he could quickly throw you out? Why do baseball players continue to take pitches, draw walks, make hits and drive in runs? Is it because they lack class?
Now that's a better analogy.

They don't have to bunt, but you rarely see baseball teams running up double digit leads.

And as Hos pointed out, they certainly stop doing things like stealing bases. That'd be the equivalent of going for it on 4th and 2.
 

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Hostile;1734203 said:
They quit trying to steal bases, bunt runners over, etc.

Your analogy is really poor.

They may cut some unconventional things out, just like the Patriots cut some things out because they could have won by 70+ today if they really wanted to: onside kicks, two point conversions, throwing it in short yardage situations ... but baseball players still try to score runs by conventional means. When they're thrown a fastball down the middle, they swing just as hard as they did in the first inning. They're clearly not expected to end the game in the most merciful and quickest means possible.
 

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InmanRoshi;1734214 said:
They may cut some unconventional things out, just like the Patriots cut some things out because they could have won by 70+ today if they really wanted to do onside kicks and two point conversions and throwing it in short yardage situations, but they still try to score by conventional means. They're clearly not expected to end the game in the most merciful and quickest means necessary like football is.
Going for it on 4th down with a huge lead is just wrong. Kick the FG or punt.

It's an unwritten rule in football. Sorry if you're unaware of it. You don't show up the other team.
 

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InmanRoshi;1734214 said:
They may cut some unconventional things out, just like the Patriots cut some things out because they could have won by 70+ today if they really wanted to do onside kicks and two point conversions and throwing it in short yardage situations, but they still try to score by conventional means. When they're thrown a fastball down the middle, they swing just as hard as they did in the first inning. They're clearly not expected to end the game in the most merciful and quickest means possible.

Are you just drunk and bored? I see no logic reasoning behind this thread at all.
 

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InmanRoshi;1734214 said:
They may cut some unconventional things out, just like the Patriots cut some things out because they could have won by 70+ today if they really wanted to do onside kicks and two point conversions and throwing it in short yardage situations, but they still try to score by conventional means. They're clearly not expected to end the game in the most merciful and quickest means necessary like football is.
They didn't cut out the unconventional things, though. That's what people are *****ing about. It's going for it on 4th and 2. It's throwing bombs on first down. Those are the classless acts that people are complaining about.
 

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Doomsday;1734188 said:
In golf you are fighting the course to put up the best score you can over a 4 day period. Yes you are competing against other players but really all you can do is control is your own play. The anagoly makes no sense at all compared to a team sport where you are directly competing against another team in a timed game.


agreed. in golf, the players are not competing against each other where their actions would adversely affect their opponents. they are each trying to do their own individual best to win.

if you want to compare golf, compare it to ice skating or diving (not directly competing against each other).

a player in ice skating is considered classless if she purposely sabotages her opponents chance of winning not when she scores 6.0 when she only need a 4.0 for example.
 

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Doomsday;1734219 said:
Are you just drunk and bored? I see no logic reasoning behind this thread at all.
I just want to know when it's okay to tell my kids to quit trying to do their best. Evidently there comes a time when you should stop trying to do your best. I want to know when its okay to sacrifice your own personal pursuit of excellence to spare the "feelings" of others.
 

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InmanRoshi;1734234 said:
I just want to know when it's okay to tell my kids to quit trying to do their best. Evidently there comes a time when you should stop trying to do your best. I want to know when its okay to sacrifice your own personal pursuit of excellence to spare the "feelings" of others.
Never. Tell your kids to keep punching until the breathing stops.

Judas Priest.
 

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InmanRoshi;1734193 said:
In baseball, wouldn't the most merciful and quickest way to end a blowout be to purposely bunt the ball to the pitcher on the first pitch every at bat so he could promptly throw you out? Or at least swing wildly at the first three pitches for a quick strikeout. Why do batters continue to take pitches, draw walks, make hits and drive in runs?
In baseball if you are winning at the buttom of the 9th you end the game you don't try to run up the score... Again you are wrong... Sorry. LOL
 

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InmanRoshi;1734234 said:
I just want to know when it's okay to tell my kids to quit trying to do their best. Evidently there comes a time when you should stop trying to do your best. I want to know when its okay to sacrifice your own personal pursuit of excellence to spare the "feelings" of others.
HAHAHAHA you realy don't get it do you? Look it has nothing to do with not doing your best. The pats did their best and had the game won there are just things you don't do when you have the lead and game in hand.
 

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Hostile;1734237 said:
Never. Tell your kids to keep punching until the breathing stops.

Judas Priest.

Okay, I'll just prepare him for the business world by telling him that when his competitors are kicking his arse that it's okay to just take it ... they'll just give you a piece of the marketshare and wait until you get back on your feet, because they'll feel bad if your company goes under and they get the whole pie to themselves.

This is what we're talking about here ... professional athletes. The Commanders are paid just as much as the Patriots for doing the same job.
 

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InmanRoshi;1734261 said:
Okay, I'll just prepare him for the business world by telling him that when his competitors are kicking his arse that it's okay to just take it ... they'll just give you a piece of the marketshare and wait until you get back on your feet, because they'll feel bad if your company goes under and they get the whole pie to themselves.

This is what we're talking about here ... professional athletes. The Commanders are paid just as much as the Patriots for doing the same job.
The Commanders just took it?

No way. Another bad analogy.

Going for a trifecta?
 

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InmanRoshi;1734097 said:
What are we teaching our children? That it's okay to be a whole lot better than the other kids? What about the other kids self esteem? Why can't they all get first place trophies?

I would hope that we teach our kids that in competition, there are winners and there are losers.

There are also good sportsmen and bad sportsmen, and these qualities have zero to do with winning and losing.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to be the best, or achieving it. There is a problem when kids can't understand when enough is enough.

If we teach our children that they should never care how bad they make another person/team look, we're basically telling them that this is acceptable behavior. This will then evolve in how they deal with everyday relationships. Nobody likes the kid that bests you and then rubs your nose in it.
 

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Hmm. Never thought of it like that. Much to ponder (although many are quick to dsimiss).
 

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D-TownRadio;1734251 said:
In baseball if you are winning at the buttom of the 9th you end the game you don't try to run up the score... Again you are wrong... Sorry. LOL


Actually that is the end of the game, because the losing team has utilized all 27 outs. Nothing has changed. The winning team still swings just as hard at meatballs in the 8th inning as they do in the 1st inning. They're not expected to purposely strike out to save the other team humiliation.
 

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Maybe you should just teach your kids to use common sense then they will be able to do what you dont seem able to decide when it makes sense to show compassion and respect for thier opposition.
 

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Doomsday;1734274 said:
Maybe you should just teach your kids to use common sense then they will be able to do what you dont seem able to decide when it makes sense to show compassion and respect for thier opposition.

Yeah, that's the way the world works. Apple feels sorry for Microsoft because their IPod is wiping the floor with the Zune. So, for the sake of fairness, Apple is going to stop marketing the Ipod, stop trying to improve it with new features, stop introducing it to new markets until Zune gets on it's feet.
 

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InmanRoshi;1734278 said:
Yeah, that's the way the world works. Apple feels sorry for Microsoft because their IPod is wiping the floor with the Zune. So, for the sake of fairness, Apple is going to stop marketing the Ipod, stop trying to improve it with new features, stop introducing it to new markets and until Zune gets on it's feet.

Common sense would tell you when it comes to business there is no reason to take it easy on your competition. Maybe you should have someone else teach your kids common sense you seem to be lacking in that area.
 
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