Why no help for Steele at the end?

Sydla

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He was paid $$$ to lock down that side, he shouldn’t need help. That’s the whole point of paying big money to your Olineman. He’s supposed to be able to handle himself. Chaz Green didn’t get a second contract for a reason. Steele is not in that category. If we’re requesting he get help then a more serious conversation needs to be had about his performance overall.
What he was paid is meaningless in this analysis. Who cares at that point what he "was supposed to do". He wasn't doing it. He was getting whipped all game long.

It's a questionable decision, in that spot, to leave Steele by himself against a good pass rusher.
 

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Steele played badly and he doesnt appear to be back from his injury.
 

Sydla

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I mean sure, in hindsight. Steele was fine on the rest of the drive though. You can't chip on every single play.
He literally gave up two sacks in the last 5 minutes before that fateful one there. Just because he strung a few plays together where he didn't totally get embarrassed doesn't mean he's now suddenly "fixed".

That was a questionable move at that point of the game. It just was. The one thing you can absolutely not have happen there is a sack (other than an int). So after watching Steele get abused all game, it's an odd decision to not give him some help there.
 

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Not impressed with this O-Line coach. But Steele had a bad game. He was maybe rushed back from injury to quickly..
x2. I realize there have been injuries this season and a lot of musical chairs, but it just feels like this Oline regressed a lot this season.
 

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He literally gave up two sacks in the last 5 minutes before that fateful one there. Just because he strung a few plays together where he didn't totally get embarrassed doesn't mean he's now suddenly "fixed".

That was a questionable move at that point of the game. It just was. The one thing you can absolutely not have happen there is a sack (other than an int). So after watching Steele get abused all game, it's an odd decision to not give him some help there.
I didn't say he was fixed. I'm saying that you can't chip on every single play, nor should you. Even bad OT's win 3/4 of the time.

The problem is that both OTs lost almost immediately AND there was push up the middle. If you're committed to chipping on that play, you have to a) pick the right side to chip on and b) commit to chipping every play the rest of the way. The chances of getting anything open at/near the endzone in that scenario is extremely limited. You have, effectively, 7 defenders covering 4 WRs. Nobody is going to be open.
 

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I agree with most, we should have had a TE to help with Steele but the TE is our second option in this offense,(sometimes 1st option) and too busy going into his route for him to help or chip the DE...
 

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He was paid $$$ to lock down that side, he shouldn’t need help. That’s the whole point of paying big money to your Olineman. He’s supposed to be able to handle himself. Chaz Green didn’t get a second contract for a reason. Steele is not in that category. If we’re requesting he get help then a more serious conversation needs to be had about his performance overall.
Just about every tackle has a bad game, and if you see it happening, you make adjustments. This was the most important drive of the game. You help him out so your QB has the best chance to make a play.
 

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Just about every tackle has a bad game, and if you see it happening, you make adjustments. This was the most important drive of the game. You help him out so your QB has the best chance to make a play.
EXACTLY. And this is an area that the Boys have sucked at for the last three coaches. Phillips and Garrett and MM. We just do not do it. and that is one of the big reasons we lose games we should win like this one.
 

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He literally gave up two sacks in the last 5 minutes before that fateful one there. Just because he strung a few plays together where he didn't totally get embarrassed doesn't mean he's now suddenly "fixed".

That was a questionable move at that point of the game. It just was. The one thing you can absolutely not have happen there is a sack (other than an int). So after watching Steele get abused all game, it's an odd decision to not give him some help there.
Situational football isn’t a strong point for MM neither is clock management, anyone who believes AR was wrong about MM is fooling themselves. As critical a play that Dak needs time not to help the RT who was having real problems all game was just another MM flub. What’s most irritating is MM smiling and saying how happy he is they hung in there.
 

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Steele is a big issue this season. With his contract, we have to hope it is tied in to the injury recovery and that he will improve.
 

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Not impressed with this O-Line coach. But Steele had a bad game. He was maybe rushed back from injury to quickly..
OL coach doesn’t call plays.

They have removed the RBs from pass blocking.

Probably because none of them can do it.
 

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We had a few plays that we got the run game going. Then penalties started. If we cleaned those up we will go far..
 

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I will say this about Steele.. the kid has shown that he's 100% a fighter so I will not shovel dirt on him yet. He got abused yesterday and the coaching staff kinda hung him out to dry but I firmly believe if there's a way he can work his way back to top form that kid will find it. But yeah.. the playcalling and formations that kept leaving him on an island was atrocious yesterday.
 

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The Eagles got three sacks in the last three minutes. It was clear that Steele was getting rag dolled by Philly's D line. When the game came down to the end, why didn't the coaching staff give Steele any help? I'm just at the point where I think even if Dak is 100% perfect, the coaches will somehow screw it up against a good team at the end. The Eagles were tossing their scrubs in to cover short term injuries to their CB's and we still can't take advantage of the situation. And no, I'm not defending Dak here--he made mistakes but balled out for the most part. But a great coach could have mitigated those, and we could have won this game.

Ya know, Aaron Rodgers may have been right all along.
May Have????? He hit on the head when he parted ways with CHUBS! Knowing Dak doesn't look for all his targets, Chubs could have made a move to keep someone standing guard over Steele so that he didn't get punked every down he played on that last drive. A chip here or there may have helped the situation, but no Chubs was too busy trying to read his Texas Coast play sheet to give Steele any NEEDED HELP! What Steele needs to do is watch the game film of the Eagle's Right Tackle, he looked like he jumped early every fricking down, that's how fast he was when the ball was snapped. Whereas Steele looked overwhelmed by everything, he had a lousy game!
 

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I didn't say he was fixed. I'm saying that you can't chip on every single play, nor should you. Even bad OT's win 3/4 of the time.

The problem is that both OTs lost almost immediately AND there was push up the middle. If you're committed to chipping on that play, you have to a) pick the right side to chip on and b) commit to chipping every play the rest of the way. The chances of getting anything open at/near the endzone in that scenario is extremely limited. You have, effectively, 7 defenders covering 4 WRs. Nobody is going to be open.
Not asking to give him help on every play. Asking to give him help at a point in the game where you can absolutely, positively, not make a mistake. With no timeouts, 27 seconds left, a sack there is game altering. Not giving him help or calling a play that can mitigate pressure from his side is malpractice.

The other DE? He was on the ground. He stumbled and Tyron pushed him to the ground. He wasn't a real factor in the play. And while there was a push up the middle, there was still enough of a pocket to throw if Dak made a quick decision. You give Steele help there, it likely buys Dak another second where it makes it easier to complete a pass or at the very least chuck it away and preserve the yardage lost and time.
 
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