Why Not Bob Stoops??

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utrunner07;1331725 said:
Did you see their Bowl Game?!?!?!

Look, Its obvious sooner fans think Stoops would make a good HC,

Non Sooner fans would rather go back to Gailey than have the over hyped, cry baby, cheater of a coach as a member of the Dallas Cowboys organization....Guess which I am.
Someone with no idea what he's talking about.
 

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utrunner07;1331760 said:
I did answer your question, Bob Stoops was completely outcoached against Boise State. OU has about one game per year where they are out coached. Considering the level of talent they have there is no reason this should ever happen.

I think they run a spread offense.


OK, so, let me just get this. He has been outcoached by Chris Peterson of Boise St. (who incidentally just won the Paul Bear Bryant Awared for Coach of the Year -NCAA). Are there any others?

You also say that Stoops runs the spread offense, is this correct?
 

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JustSayNotoTO;1331771 said:
Lets not forget about that wonderful coaching job against 6 loss Oregon.

Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. The NCAA doesn't write formal letters of appoligy to programs if they don't have anything to appoligize for.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1331849 said:
Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. The NCAA doesn't write formal letters of appoligy to programs if they don't have anything to appoligize for.

That game should have never been close.
 

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JustSayNotoTO;1331811 said:
Let us also not forget TCU last year.

I think we can all admit that last year was a down year for OU. Just how it was.

BTW, TCU went 11-1 that year. Not exactly a poor team if you ask me.
 

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philo beddoe;1331561 said:
I think he'd be a great hire. Have yet to hear any credible negatives.

Well, in the past few years he has been less than great in an average, and I mean average Big 12, and that is in college where there is no salary cap and all you have to do is pay your recruits more than Texas pays theirs!!!! No thanks.
 

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I think the old JakeToDallas is now StoopsToDallas under another name.

Just a theory.

We have at least established that no matter what negatives are brought up, Philo will not acknowledge them.

What happens to you Philo, if Stoops is not hired as the coach? It's just as valid a question.

I think the ex-Oklahoma HC quota was filled with Switzer anyway.
 

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alancdc;1331908 said:
Well, in the past few years he has been less than great in an average, and I mean average Big 12, and that is in college where there is no salary cap and all you have to do is pay your recruits more than Texas pays theirs!!!! No thanks.

Now this is a true statement, IMO. However, I think you also have to look at what he's actually had to work with these past two years. This year is really a pretty good year for him IMO. You really can not pin the Oregon loss on OU. They got thumped by a far superior Texas team and they lost to Boise St. who has only gone 13-0 this year and 58-7 over the past 5 years. The problem with all you guys who are bringing up Boise St. is that you people have not been paying attention. You can say that Boise is a lessor program but the truth is that it's been a top 5 program for the past 5 years. Only USC has a better won/Lost Record 59-6.

The year before, it would have been tough for anybody to win in 05 with what OU had. They graduated a lot of players. They were playing with no QB. They lost to 11-1 TCU, unbeaten and NC Texas, 10-2 UCLA on the road (second game of the season) and by 2 points to TT on the road at the buzzer basically. Last team with the ball on that one.

I'm not trying to say that Stoops is the best guy for the job or even who I would pick. I'm not a Sooner fan by any means. I'm just saying that you have to come up with better reasons then are being given right now. Just lets be fair about it.
 

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philo beddoe;1331561 said:
I think he'd be a great hire. Have yet to hear any credible negatives.

Hey, Bowman, your other Oklahoma hero, Ol' Gunsmoke himself, was on the LBOH show today telling Stoops to stay put in college. If you missed it, here's an article with his thoughts.

Not that your intent is reasoned argumentation anyway................


Cowboys Coach Bill Parcells Retires: Stoops better off staying with Sooners
By DAVE SITTLER World Sports Columnist
1/23/2007

Barry Switzer has some advice for Oklahoma football coach Bob Stoops -- stay right where you are.

And if Switzer knows what he's talking about, and there is no reason to doubt him, Stoops will not be the next coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

Several media outlets listed Stoops as a candidate for the Dallas job shortly after Cowboys' coach Bill Parcells announced Monday morning that he was retiring.

"Bob Stoops has a better job right now," Switzer said Monday night in a telephone interview. "The OU job is better than the Dallas Cowboys."

Switzer absolutely, unequivocally knows what he's talking about when it comes to comparing the head-coach's position in Norman with the one in Big D.

The 69-year-old Switzer is one of only two coaches in history to win both a collegiate national championship and a Super Bowl. Switzer won three national titles in 17 seasons at OU, and Super Bowl XXX in the second of three seasons coaching the Cowboys.

Switzer also cited another reason why OU supporters should not worry they are about to lose Stoops, who has won four Big 12 Conference championships and the 2000 national title in eight seasons coaching the Sooners.

"Jerry Jones is not going to hire a college coach," Switzer said. "I talked to someone on the (Cowboys') inside today who told me that Jerry is going to stay within the (NFL) league to hire a coach."

Stoops did not return a telephone message left on his cell phone Monday. But he has said several times he is intrigued by professional football and could see himself coaching in the NFL at some point in his career.

Some pundits have speculated that Stoops changed his mind about the NFL after Steve Spurrier failed in two seasons with the Washington Commanders. Spurrier has been a close friend and confidant of Stoops ever since the OU coach was Spurrier's defensive coordinator for three seasons at Florida.

Spurrier, now South Carolina's coach, is one of several men who have recently failed to successfully make the jump from college to the NFL. Other NFL head coaches who have returned to college in recent seasons include Alabama's Nick Saban (Miami), North Carolina's Butch Davis (Cleveland) and Arizona State's Dennis Erickson (Seattle and San Francisco).

Stoops indicated to me more than once this season that Spurrier's NFL experience wouldn't play a role in any decision he makes about an NFL job offer. He has also said more than once that no matter how successful a coach has been, he should leave a job before he wears out his welcome.

Stoops isn't close to wearing out his welcome at OU. Especially after a 2006 season that saw him overcome several challenges to win the Big 12 title and take the Sooners to the Fiesta Bowl.

But Switzer, who replaced Jimmy Johnson as the Cowboys' coach in 1994, said Stoops would be wise to notice the trend of coaches getting out of the NFL as soon as an attractive college position opens.

"I inherited a hell of lot better team than Parcells did," Switzer said. "It was the same thing for Spurrier (lack of talent with the Commanders)."

Johnson is the only other coach to win a national title and Super Bowl. The former Oklahoma State coach won the national championship at Miami and two Super Bowls with Dallas before having a falling out with Jones and leaving the Dallas franchise.

Among the Cowboys Johnson left behind for Switzer were running back Emmitt Smith, wide receiver Michael Irvin and Hall of Fame quarterback Troy Aikman.

"It's all about the quarterback in the NFL," Switzer said. "Look at the four teams in Sunday's (NFL conference title) playoffs. Three of them had three of the best quarterbacks in the NFL in Peyton Manning (Indianapolis), Tom Brady (New England) and Drew Brees (New Orleans.)

"Everything is so even (in the NFL) because you only get seven draft choices a year, you have the salary cap and free agency. Look at Pittsburgh, they won the Super Bowl last year and didn't even make the playoffs this year."

College coaches have to deal with recruiting each season, but not the draft, salary cap or free agency. And the escalating salaries in the college game have enabled coaches like Stoops to make more money than some NFL coaches.

"Bob Stoops makes as much money at OU as he'd make in the NFL," Switzer said. "And he controls his own destiny.

"I've talked to Bob about this before and told him just what I told you -- the OU job is better than the Dallas Cowboys."

OU fans have to hope that when Switzer talked, Stoops listened.
 

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utrunner07;1331760 said:
I did answer your question, Bob Stoops was completely outcoached against Boise State. OU has about one game per year where they are out coached. Considering the level of talent they have there is no reason this should ever happen.

I think they run a spread offense.

You should consider yourself lucky to find a coach who gets out coached only once a year.There has only been one in the history of the NFL.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1331715 said:
What is the current offense that OU runs?

Specifically, who do you feel out coached Stoops?

NFL question speaks for itself.


Gary Patterson

Les Miles

Pete Caroll

Nick Saban

Even Chris Peterson

His teams have choked in big games down the stretch and have flat out handed their seasons away.

He is a Spurrier disciple and his defenses have been horrid against decent competition ever since his brother left.

We are the Dallas Cowboys and we can do waaaaaaay better.
 

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CATCH17;1332001 said:
Gary Patterson

Les Miles

Pete Caroll

Nick Saban

Even Chris Peterson

His teams have choked in big games down the stretch and have flat out handed their seasons away.

He is a Spurrier disciple and his defenses have been horrid against decent competition ever since his brother left.

We are the Dallas Cowboys and we can do waaaaaaay better.

Gary Patterson of TCU who had a 11-1 team in 05? Les Miles who just recently got hired as the Head Coach of LSU, one of the very best College Football Programs in America? Pete Carroll who has only run the most succesful college program in College Football over the past 5 years? Nick Saben who has had his pick of coaching positions for the last 4 or 5 years? Last but not least, Paul Bear Bryant - Coach of the year and second most winning program over the past 5 seasons Chris Peterson.

I'm sorry, I fail to see the shame in this.
 

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alancdc;1331908 said:
Well, in the past few years he has been less than great in an average, and I mean average Big 12, and that is in college where there is no salary cap and all you have to do is pay your recruits more than Texas pays theirs!!!! No thanks.

**** -

You have lost ever ounce of credibility you ever thought you might have had in this forum.


This is NOT the 1970 brother. Get w/ the program.


Truth comes out. It is just old biased opinion of Switzer and the NC titles he got.

That however translates to NOTHING about Bob Stoops. Need I remind you be kicked Bomar off the flippin team because he put down hours he worked at a local car dealership - that he NEVER worked.

Dude get real or just get lost. You have GOT to bring more of this to the table.

Good LORD!!! How did you ever get past registering w/ the site here?
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1332037 said:
Gary Patterson of TCU who had a 11-1 team in 05? Les Miles who just recently got hired as the Head Coach of LSU, one of the very best College Football Programs in America? Pete Carroll who has only run the most succesful college program in College Football over the past 5 years? Nick Saben who has had his pick of coaching positions for the last 4 or 5 years? Last but not least, Paul Bear Bryant - Coach of the year and second most winning program over the past 5 seasons Chris Peterson.

I'm sorry, I fail to see the shame in this.


ABQ - honestly. You are wasting your time in any slight defense of Stoops w/ these folks.

Ill let Stoops record speak for itself.


86-19 over the past 6 years?? Somin like that.
 

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Dallas;1332044 said:
ABQ - honestly. You are wasting your time in any slight defense of Stoops w/ these folks.

Ill let Stoops record speak for itself.


86-19 over the past 6 years?? Somin like that.

That MUST mean he is qualified for the NFL.:banghead:
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1332037 said:
Gary Patterson of TCU who had a 11-1 team in 05? Les Miles who just recently got hired as the Head Coach of LSU, one of the very best College Football Programs in America? Pete Carroll who has only run the most succesful college program in College Football over the past 5 years? Nick Saben who has had his pick of coaching positions for the last 4 or 5 years? Last but not least, Paul Bear Bryant - Coach of the year and second most winning program over the past 5 seasons Chris Peterson.

I'm sorry, I fail to see the shame in this.

Because thats the kind of coaching he is going to see on a weekly basis in the NFL and not just once a Season.

I would say UAB's Coach who is Mack Browns brother outcoached him bad in the 1st game when they almost beat OU @ OU. He coached a better game than Stoops.

Stoops gets schooled by good coaches bottom line and hes going to see that week in and week out in the NFL.

Just because hes younger and wears a Visor doesnt mean he is ready for the biggest coaching gig in Football.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1332037 said:
Gary Patterson of TCU who had a 11-1 team in 05? Les Miles who just recently got hired as the Head Coach of LSU, one of the very best College Football Programs in America? Pete Carroll who has only run the most succesful college program in College Football over the past 5 years? Nick Saben who has had his pick of coaching positions for the last 4 or 5 years? Last but not least, Paul Bear Bryant - Coach of the year and second most winning program over the past 5 seasons Chris Peterson.

I'm sorry, I fail to see the shame in this.

Shame? Probably not.

But does beating up tons of 2nd tier coaches qualify him to run an NFL franchise? Considering 2 of the guys above who supposedly outcoached him have already failed in the NFL (or at least given up in Saban's case)?

I don't follow college football that closely, but if we are going to gamble on a college coach to take over this team it better be one who has been running roughshod over even the best college coaches.
 
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