Why not just let them score?

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Again, we acted too late. That was when it was 3rd and short. See my other post here about letting them score earlier than that. Manning is too smart. By the time you think to let him score,he already knows that.

You guys really don't believe the Broncos had already talked about that? Why on earth would they score so quickly? Guarantee you Manning read all his guys the riot act very first huddle of that drive.
 

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They, like others have said, they were not trying to get a TD, and if you had opened a hole for them,they probably would've downed it at the 2 or 1. That's a smart coach over there. Listen, you make 3 stops on run plays and you have a chance to WIN. But no! We could not stop them from passing, we could not stop them from running. So why again did we get rid of Ryan after 1 year for a great grandpa? Meanwhile, Garrett can do no wrong after 7 years. Weird.
 

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Manning is the the idiot people seem to think he is. This is just another excuse to hammer Garrett. Many times it is justified. But in this case it is not. The Borncos were not going to score there. If the d-line opens the floodgates. Moreno falls down on his own before the goalline.

They needed to get just half a yard, if he went just half a yard more he scores, Moreno had to go full thottle for that first down, if we had a smart coach and the defense lets him walk by, momentum alone takes him to the end zone. Heck, they could carry him there for all I care. Just try to do that please, even if he somehow miraculously stops on a dime 5 inches befere the end zone you can say your coach did the right thing by trying to win the game. Garrett is now under .500 as a head coach, he is one of the worst head coaches in the league as of now.
 

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I'm not a fan of letting them score. Its just silly IMO. I'd much rather have them settle for the field goal then to have to try and score 7 and tie the game. It didn't work. While this pass defense leaves a lot to be desired I personally feel somewhat comfortable in our run defense even though Moreno ran over us yesterday.
 

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Not sure this was posted.

After the Romo turnover with just 2 min left why didn't Garrett just let Denver score ? They were already in FG range and knowing Peyton he was not gonna give us the ball back without us burning all timeouts and time. Why do we have to lose at that point in time? At least give our offense another chance to tie the game. Better than no control at all and just watch Denver milk the clock helplessly. I want our coach to be creative!

The other question I had was...... Where was Dunbar? Wasn't he our Speester with juke that we wanted to use more often. In 2nd half Murray wasn't getting much, why not Dunbar as change of pace or screens? Other teams seem to utilize their backs significantly better than our coach. Garett appears to have good philosophy but when it comes to strategy and clock management he is below average.
Once they got to 3rd and a yard I would have let them score. I don't think you let them score right when he threw the pick. We had 3 timeouts left if I remember correctly.
 

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They needed to get just half a yard, if he went just half a yard more he scores, Moreno had to go full thottle for that first down, if we had a smart coach and the defense lets him walk by, momentum alone takes him to the end zone. Heck, they could carry him there for all I care. Just try to do that please, even if he somehow miraculously stops on a dime 5 inches befere the end zone you can say your coach did the right thing by trying to win the game. Garrett is now under .500 as a head coach, he is one of the worst head coaches in the league as of now.

Or if you stop him for no gain they kick a field goal and we have 1:30 to drive approximately 50 yards to set up a tying field goal. If manning told him not to score, "momentum" isn't going to make him forget that. You can't fake defensive line effort. If the line got blown back or dove to the side on purpose, he would have knelt after a first and everyone would be howling at the moon for Garrett being an idiot. It was an extremely difficult situation and the best most experienced QB in the league is going to execute that short field goal with seconds left 99% of the time.
 

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I'm not a fan of letting them score. Its just silly IMO. I'd much rather have them settle for the field goal then to have to try and score 7 and tie the game. It didn't work. While this pass defense leaves a lot to be desired I personally feel somewhat comfortable in our run defense even though Moreno ran over us yesterday.

This is not the typical game and this is where a coach needs to show his guts. Sure, I normally would try to hold another team to a FG but this D hasn't done much AND you know Manning is smart and will NOT give us the ball back. Instead of letting Denver control your destiny. WE want to control our destiny and at least have a chance to TIE. We had NO chance when Manning has the ball and running down the clock. None of us had ANY confidence that we were holding them to a FG (that's just wishful thinking).
 

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Best for Dallas to win that game was to run the ball on 1st down right before the INT. Kill some more time, Hopefully convert a 1st down. Make Denver swear a little and think about using their timeouts.

Just let them score, what nonsense.
 

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Bigger head coaching mistake was made on the Romo's INT play. That play should never have been ran at that time. The game clock was at 2:39 before the 1st down play where Romo gets sacked. We should have waited until 2 minute warning and regroup before running the second play. We needed to run some time off anyways so why not wait until 2 minute warning, talk it over, and run the second play afterwards.

Any decent NFL HC would have done that instead of having your QB who just got horse collared run another play in that situation.
 

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Bigger head coaching mistake was made on the Romo's INT play. That play should never have been ran at that time. The game clock was at 2:39 before the 1st down play where Romo gets sacked. We should have waited until 2 minute warning and regroup before running the second play. We needed to run some time off anyways so why not wait until 2 minute warning, talk it over, and run the second play afterwards.

Any decent NFL HC would have done that instead of having your QB who just got horse collared run another play in that situation.
I agree.....run the clock down a bit...I think Garrett got caught up in the gun slinging play that he forgot about time management.
 

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This is not the typical game and this is where a coach needs to show his guts. Sure, I normally would try to hold another team to a FG but this D hasn't done much AND you know Manning is smart and will NOT give us the ball back. Instead of letting Denver control your destiny. WE want to control our destiny and at least have a chance to TIE. We had NO chance when Manning has the ball and running down the clock. None of us had ANY confidence that we were holding them to a FG (that's just wishful thinking).

Its not showing guts giving up and letting a team score. Its guts to go out there and they need a inch and stop them. His defense didn't stop them.
 

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The Zoners in the game thread were all saying let them score over and over again. I can't think of any reason not to do so. If need be, we should have pushed Moreno into the end zone.

It seems now he was under orders by Manning to not score...only get enough for the first down, kill the clock, kick a FG and get out of there. Manning seemed very worried about Dallas getting the ball back after a TD. He surely didn't trust his defense yesterday...with good reason!
 

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Or if you stop him for no gain they kick a field goal and we have 1:30 to drive approximately 50 yards to set up a tying field goal. If manning told him not to score, "momentum" isn't going to make him forget that. You can't fake defensive line effort. If the line got blown back or dove to the side on purpose, he would have knelt after a first and everyone would be howling at the moon for Garrett being an idiot. It was an extremely difficult situation and the best most experienced QB in the league is going to execute that short field goal with seconds left 99% of the time.

What gave you the impression that we could stop them after the game the defense played? Again, it would've been extremely difficult for Moreno to stop on a dime at the 5 inch line if they just let him walk by.

Either way, Garrett always seems to get the short end of the stick in these late game decisions.
 

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Bigger head coaching mistake was made on the Romo's INT play. That play should never have been ran at that time. The game clock was at 2:39 before the 1st down play where Romo gets sacked. We should have waited until 2 minute warning and regroup before running the second play. We needed to run some time off anyways so why not wait until 2 minute warning, talk it over, and run the second play afterwards.

Any decent NFL HC would have done that instead of having your QB who just got horse collared run another play in that situation.

No - if you see a favorable match-up, you go. Don't let the D have time to get their personnel on the field.

And good lord, "we need to run some time off." No, we are at our own 14 yard line. We certainly don't need to bleed the clock at that point. Romo and the staff had been sitting on the sideline for sometime before that series. They'd done enough talking and likely had a few plays already called.
 

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No - if you see a favorable match-up, you go. Don't let the D have time to get their personnel on the field.

And good lord, "we need to run some time off." No, we are at our own 14 yard line. We certainly don't need to bleed the clock at that point. Romo and the staff had been sitting on the sideline for sometime before that series. They'd done enough talking and likely had a few plays already called.

What favorable match up? That matchup just got Romo sacked violently . He has history of making mistakes in this type of situation. From the sack, he may be foggy or even somewhat injured. Game is tied. We don't need or want to score too quickly We just need to score 3 points and not leave any time for Peyton.

The last thing you want to do in that situation is hurry up to the line and tried make a play. Any HC with a half a brain would have waited until the 2:00 minute warning to regroup.
 

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Funny part had Dallas ran the ball and failed the same people would be complaining why we did not stay with what was working. Dallas did not put up over 500 yards passing and 5 TD throws by being conservative. They went with what was working 2nd guessing after the game is just lame.
 

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What favorable match up? That matchup just got Romo sacked violently . He has history of making mistakes in this type of situation. From the sack, he may be foggy or even somewhat injured. Game is tied. We don't need or want to score too quickly We just need to score 3 points and not leave any time for Peyton.

The last thing you want to do in that situation is hurry up to the line and tried make a play. Any HC with a half a brain would have waited until the 2:00 minute warning to regroup.

And any poster with a brain will see you are speaking out of your a(genda) hole
 

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The Broncos weren't going to score there, and there wasn't really a moment where we were going to trick them into scoring too fast and giving us a chance to tie it up. Peyton talked about in his post-game conference telling Moreno that he need to get the first down at the half-yard line without getting into the end zone. Peyton Manning is about the last guy in the league you're going to catch asleep at that switch. Blaming *Garrett* for that by whatever twisted half-logic that might present itself at this point is high-order silliness.

Meh, that's no reason not to try , the time to do it was when Denver was 3rd and 1 from the 2 yard line, it would have been tough for the RB to stop his momentum and not end up in the end zone especially if the linemen stood him up and pulled him into the end zone, prior to that play with time outs I was for trying to stop them
 

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Because this team tries to get too cute game after game.

The coaches rarely use common sense.
 
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