Why not Stallworth?

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Doomsday101;1960138 said:
Thing is everyone expect top notch players at every position but teams can't afford to do that. I know Fitzgerald is a very good WR but he would come at a very high price. I think when talking about filling the #2 spot I think you want to find a guy who is a good compliment to your #1 WR. If would be great to get all pros at every position but I don’t think that is do able over the long haul. I think the Pats did the right thing is getting Moss and going out and looking for quality bargain players like Welker and Stallworth

Fitzgerald would be a steal. He is young and just getting into his prime. We would be able to transition from TO to Larry and not miss a beat.

Stallworth is a good second option. He can stretch the field a la Glenn and free up Whitten and TO.

Either WR will make our offence that much more potent.
 

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Muhast;1960159 said:
Muhammed is 34. He has no business being a cowboy. Period.

thank you! somebody has some sense here. my best friend is a bears fan so i know all about his tenure in chicago. he's slow, old and drops more passes than you would think for a so-called possession receiver. We do NOT want this guy.

i want his teammate bernard berrian. yeah, we'd have to overpay for him but he would be the perfect deep threat to compliment T.O.

assuming we can't trade for roy williams then i would be fine with stallworth. he does get hurt and also drops passes but he has one thing we really need right now... speed. and i bet we could get him fairly cheap.
 

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Muhast;1960159 said:
Muhammed is 34. He has no business being a cowboy. Period.

He's also not the type of WR we need. We need speed and a deep threat. He is niether.
 

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Joe Rod;1960096 said:
Sorry if this has been discussed, but I have been out a few weeks getting surgery and was hoping for some catch up conversation. With all of the Free Agent WR's out there on the horizon, I don't seem to see Stallworth getting any pubilicity. Seems that when healthy, he would be a pretty good compliment to TO. Could be the Hydrocodone talking though. Any opinions or updates on what I may have missed would be appreciated. :)

I wouldn't be totally against it. Dallas could have a similar receiving corp to what the Patriots had this past season with Owens = Moss, Stallworth being the much needed deep threat opposite of Owens, Crayton being a threat underneath similar to Welker and Witten being a giant mismatch if teams try to sick a linebacker on him in coverage.




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Yakuza Rich;1960471 said:
I wouldn't be totally against it. Dallas could have a similar receiving corp to what the Patriots had this past season with Owens = Moss, Stallworth being the much needed deep threat opposite of Owens, Crayton being a threat underneath similar to Welker and Witten being a giant mismatch if teams try to sick a linebacker on him in coverage.




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I know what you are saying, but Crayton just isn't the player Welker is.......and I'm not knocking Crayton (well maybe his playoff performance :lmao: ), I'm just suggesting Welker is as good a slot guy I've every seen.
 

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noletime95;1960642 said:
I know what you are saying, but Crayton just isn't the player Welker is.......and I'm not knocking Crayton (well maybe his playoff performance :lmao: ), I'm just suggesting Welker is as good a slot guy I've every seen.


Welker is great, but Crayton is really good in the slot as well and probably a better deep threat. I just don't think the margin between Welker in the slot and Crayton in the slot is that huge. Either way, we could really use a deep threat opposite of Owens. A guy that scares defenses enough to give them safety help over the top.

That's what the Pats did and it left Welker and Watson in single coverage situations. And if a team tried to put a defensive back on Watson, then they were likely to leave a safety and/or linebacker on Welker. And if they did the opposite, then Watson would have the advantage.

Owens isn't nearly the deep threat that Moss is, but he's still a guy that gets safety help over the top. If Dallas can get that legit deep threat opposite of Owens and possibly get a back that can catch the ball out of the backfield like Faulk, this would be a better, more explosive offense.





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es22;1960349 said:
Fitzgerald would be a steal. He is young and just getting into his prime. We would be able to transition from TO to Larry and not miss a beat.

Stallworth is a good second option. He can stretch the field a la Glenn and free up Whitten and TO.

Either WR will make our offence that much more potent.

Steal? He would be extremely costly. I'm not opposed to it but I think it is funny how every time a big name is out there people claim how we need him without any thought to the cost to the Cowboys not to mention does Dallas have to fork over more for Flo, Hamlin and a possible pay increase to Owens? As I said you can't have all pros at every position if you go after Fitzgerald that will have an effect on any other FA you may go after
 

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Muhast;1960159 said:
Muhammed is 34. He has no business being a cowboy. Period.
I've seen more from an older Muhammad than a younger Stallworthless. As much as I've railed against Crayton as of late, I'd rather have Crayton than Stallworth
 

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Stalworth will probably, again, be asking for more money than he's worth. He would be a decent option on the other side, and has the nice stretch the field speed, but would only be worth it at a nice, lower, price.

Mush, as I call him, was great at one time but at 34 is too old and doesn't serve the purpose of a deep threat, speed guy, that we need on the other side of T.O. and doesn't serve the purpose of possibly being a future number one when T.O.'s days are through.
 

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DeepBleu;1960136 said:
you just said so yourself. he is hardly ever healthy. i would sign him for a performance based contract, but he ain't getting a half way decent signing bonus.

Um, he has missed just 4 games out of 64 over the last four years....

http://www.nfl.com/players/donte'stallworth/careerstats?id=STA280100
 

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Stallworth's a punk. And he was behind Jabar Gaffney by the end of the year anyway.

No thanks for anything more than an absolute dirt cheap deal.
 

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DawnOfANewD;1961123 said:
Um, he has missed just 4 games out of 64 over the last four years....

http://www.nfl.com/players/donte'stallworth/careerstats?id=STA280100

Weren't those 4 games missed due to suspension? Isn't he one strike away from being banned for a whole season? I am not sure if I am remembering correctly.
 

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We don't need another receiver that drops the ball too often.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1961128 said:
Stallworth's a punk. And he was behind Jabar Gaffney by the end of the year anyway.

No thanks for anything more than an absolute dirt cheap deal.

I'm not a huge Stalworth fan but Gaffney never started a game over Donte. He began to catch a few more balls, underneath with Welker, when teams focused on taking Moss and Donte's big play ability out of the equation.
 

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NFL.com has these listings:

Randy Moss started 16 games
Wes Welker started 13 games
Donte' Stallworth started 9 games
Jabbar Gaffney started 7 games

I don't know what that truly indicates. It is dependent on what formation the team starts out in and that can depend on their initial field position and other factors. Marion Barber did not start any regular season games for Dallas, but everyone knows his importance. Stallworth had his role and from what I could see it kind of matches the number of games started. He was the 3rd receiver option. I also know he disappeared in the final two post season games.
 

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I'd much rather get Stallworth on a cheaper contract than give someone like Bernard Berrian a premium FA contract when he's clearly not a premium player.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1961293 said:
Not sure why you say that. According to several sites, he did.

I pulled this blurb from Scouts Inc as to why Gaffney was receiving those starts over Stallworth:

"Scouts Take:
Stallworth's skills may be too similar to those of WR Randy Moss to benefit the offense as much as another short- and intermediate-range possession receiver (like WR Jabar Gaffney) does. "

Given that description, it would seem that Stallworth would fit quite well opposite TO and Witten if he could be had for a reasonable contract. A verticle threat is exactly what this team lacked last year.
 

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The only thing I remember him for was the TD catch against the Cowboys... other than that, he seemed to have disappeared...
 
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