Why Pearson isn't in the Ring of Honor

DallasEast;2093441 said:
Chosen by the Hall of Fame selection members for the 1970's All-Decade Team:

Bobby Bell, Willie Brown, Terry Bradshaw, Dick Butkus, Earl Campbell, Dave Casper, Joe DeLamielleure, Dan Dierdorf, Carl Eller, Joe Greene, John Hannah, Jack Ham, Franco Harris, Ted Hendricks, Ken Houston, Jimmy Johnson, Jim Langer, Jack Lambert, Larry Little, Bob Lilly, Merlin Olsen, Walter Payton, Alan Page, Charlie Sanders, Art Shell, O.J. Simpson, Roger Staubach, Lynn Swann, Gene Upshaw, Paul Warfield, Mike Webster, Roger Wehrli, Larry Wilson, Rayfield Wright, Ron Yary, Jack Youngblood, Dick Anderson, Jim Bakken, Robert Brazile, Harold Carmichael, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Cliff Harris, Harvey Martin, Drew Pearson, Ken Stabler, Louis Wright and Garo Yepremian.

Elected by the Hall of Fame selection members FOR the Hall:

Bobby Bell, Willie Brown, Terry Bradshaw, Dick Butkus, Earl Campbell, Dave Casper, Joe DeLamielleure, Dan Dierdorf, Carl Eller, Joe Greene, John Hannah, Jack Ham, Franco Harris, Ted Hendricks, Ken Houston, Jimmy Johnson, Jim Langer, Jack Lambert, Larry Little, Bob Lilly, Merlin Olsen, Walter Payton, Alan Page, Charlie Sanders, Art Shell, O.J. Simpson, Roger Staubach, Lynn Swann, Gene Upshaw, Paul Warfield, Mike Webster, Roger Wehrli, Larry Wilson, Rayfield Wright, Ron Yary and Jack Youngblood.

Excluded STILL by the Hall of Fame selection members FROM the Hall:

Dick Anderson, Jim Bakken, Robert Brazile, Harold Carmichael, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Cliff Harris (Cowboy), Harvey Martin (Cowboy), Drew Pearson (Cowboy), Ken Stabler, Louis Wright and Garo Yepremian.
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Other than the kickers, only two of those exclusions were named to the first-team All-Decade Team for the 1970s --

Drew Pearson and Cliff Harris.

Sure, there's no bias at all.
 
Cornerback is a tough position to play. It is often described as being out on an island. Take a CB and give him a 14 year NFL career, 52 INTs, 3 TDs, 13 fumble recoveries, 109 career punt returns with a 7.7 avg. and another TD, 85 kickoff returns with a 26.4 avg. and 2 more TDs, how about 8 carries as a RB for 52 yards and a 6.5 avg. and 4 receptions for 65 yards and a 16.3 avg., 21 career playoff games and a Super Bowl, and finally 10 of his 14 years he is a Pro Bowl CB.

Is this man a Hall of Famer? Of course he is.

Should it take 19 years to honor him? It does if your name is Mel Renfro and you played for the Dallas Cowboys.




How about Offensive Tackle. Would you call it a tough position to play? Give a man a 13 year career where he is an All Pro 4 times, 6 times a Pro Bowl honoree, 2 time Super Bowl Champion, and for good measure in his 13 years he never allows a QB sack earning a ringing endorsement from Deacon Jones as the only man he ever feared going up against.

Is this man a Hall of Famer? Of course he is.

Should it take 26 years to honor him? It does if your name is Rayfield Wright and you played for the Dallas Cowboys.



Too many people look only at stats when talking about the Hall of Fame. Here are 2 guys with impeccable stats that if they were to have played for any other team in NFL History would probably have been first ballot Hall of Famers. No bias? Please.

Did you ever hear a player or coach say that Art Monk changed the way the game is played? I ask that with no disrespect to Art Monk who is being honored this year and I think it is long overdue.

Bob Hayes did change the way the game is played. In an era when passing was minimal he was such an unstoppable force that teams feared him and Zone Defenses were created to try and stop him. When a man like Don Shula mentions you as the one player who he openly feared it should say something about that player. A lot more than the stats, but if you want to look only at stats for impact on the game look at how many of his catches were scores and how many yards per catch he averaged.

Bob Hayes, not Michael Irvin, holds the Cowboys record for TD Receptions. Look at how many receptions each had and then you get an appreciation for just how explosive Hayes was. Look at his first 5 years in the NFL. Double digit TDS every year. In that era no other WR was doing that. Not even the great Don Hutson or the great Raymond Berry or the great Lynn Swann. Hayes did and him alone. Swann's stats don't measure up to Hayes, who was a 4 time All Pro.

No bias against Hayes? Of course there is. If he was a Steeler he'd be in.

Cliff Harris is widely regarded as the Best Safety of the 1970's, a 6 time Pro Bowl honoree, 3 time All Pro, with 29 INTs, 10 forced fumbles, 18 fumble recoveries and a 25.7 avg. as a kick returner. 30 years and counting that he has not been properly honored.

Chuck Howley was a 7 time All Pro and a 6 time Pro Bowl honoree on top of being a Super Bowl MVP and probably having the best back to back Super Bowl performances any defensive player ever had. 35 years and counting that he has not been properly honored.

Don't tell me there's no bias against the Cowboys. I'm not stupid.
 
Hostile;2094022 said:
Don't tell me there's no bias against the Cowboys. I'm not stupid.
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I COMPLETELY agree, with the first part.


:p:
 
Dr. Z has lobbied for Harris' induction for years; not sure how he feels about Howley.

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Hostile;2094022 said:
Cornerback is a tough position to play. It is often described as being out on an island. Take a CB and give him a 14 year NFL career, 52 INTs, 3 TDs, 13 fumble recoveries, 109 career punt returns with a 7.7 avg. and another TD, 85 kickoff returns with a 26.4 avg. and 2 more TDs, how about 8 carries as a RB for 52 yards and a 6.5 avg. and 4 receptions for 65 yards and a 16.3 avg., 21 career playoff games and a Super Bowl, and finally 10 of his 14 years he is a Pro Bowl CB.

Is this man a Hall of Famer? Of course he is.

Should it take 19 years to honor him? It does if your name is Mel Renfro and you played for the Dallas Cowboys.




How about Offensive Tackle. Would you call it a tough position to play? Give a man a 13 year career where he is an All Pro 4 times, 6 times a Pro Bowl honoree, 2 time Super Bowl Champion, and for good measure in his 13 years he never allows a QB sack earning a ringing endorsement from Deacon Jones as the only man he ever feared going up against.

Is this man a Hall of Famer? Of course he is.

Should it take 26 years to honor him? It does if your name is Rayfield Wright and you played for the Dallas Cowboys.



Too many people look only at stats when talking about the Hall of Fame. Here are 2 guys with impeccable stats that if they were to have played for any other team in NFL History would probably have been first ballot Hall of Famers. No bias? Please.

Did you ever hear a player or coach say that Art Monk changed the way the game is played? I ask that with no disrespect to Art Monk who is being honored this year and I think it is long overdue.

Bob Hayes did change the way the game is played. In an era when passing was minimal he was such an unstoppable force that teams feared him and Zone Defenses were created to try and stop him. When a man like Don Shula mentions you as the one player who he openly feared it should say something about that player. A lot more than the stats, but if you want to look only at stats for impact on the game look at how many of his catches were scores and how many yards per catch he averaged.

Bob Hayes, not Michael Irvin, holds the Cowboys record for TD Receptions. Look at how many receptions each had and then you get an appreciation for just how explosive Hayes was. Look at his first 5 years in the NFL. Double digit TDS every year. In that era no other WR was doing that. Not even the great Don Hutson or the great Raymond Berry or the great Lynn Swann. Hayes did and him alone. Swann's stats don't measure up to Hayes, who was a 4 time All Pro.

No bias against Hayes? Of course there is. If he was a Steeler he'd be in.

Cliff Harris is widely regarded as the Best Safety of the 1970's, a 6 time Pro Bowl honoree, 3 time All Pro, with 29 INTs, 10 forced fumbles, 18 fumble recoveries and a 25.7 avg. as a kick returner. 30 years and counting that he has not been properly honored.

Chuck Howley was a 7 time All Pro and a 6 time Pro Bowl honoree on top of being a Super Bowl MVP and probably having the best back to back Super Bowl performances any defensive player ever had. 35 years and counting that he has not been properly honored.

Don't tell me there's no bias against the Cowboys. I'm not stupid.
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wow GREAT post Hostile.

Would you mind if i cut and pasted this to share elsewhere?
 
ZB9;2094258 said:
wow GREAT post Hostile.

Would you mind if i cut and pasted this to share elsewhere?
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I don't mind at all. Once you do, please post the link.
 
Hostile;2094022 said:
Cornerback is a tough position to play. It is often described as being out on an island. Take a CB and give him a 14 year NFL career, 52 INTs, 3 TDs, 13 fumble recoveries, 109 career punt returns with a 7.7 avg. and another TD, 85 kickoff returns with a 26.4 avg. and 2 more TDs, how about 8 carries as a RB for 52 yards and a 6.5 avg. and 4 receptions for 65 yards and a 16.3 avg., 21 career playoff games and a Super Bowl, and finally 10 of his 14 years he is a Pro Bowl CB.

Is this man a Hall of Famer? Of course he is.

Should it take 19 years to honor him? It does if your name is Mel Renfro and you played for the Dallas Cowboys.




How about Offensive Tackle. Would you call it a tough position to play? Give a man a 13 year career where he is an All Pro 4 times, 6 times a Pro Bowl honoree, 2 time Super Bowl Champion, and for good measure in his 13 years he never allows a QB sack earning a ringing endorsement from Deacon Jones as the only man he ever feared going up against.

Is this man a Hall of Famer? Of course he is.

Should it take 26 years to honor him? It does if your name is Rayfield Wright and you played for the Dallas Cowboys.



Too many people look only at stats when talking about the Hall of Fame. Here are 2 guys with impeccable stats that if they were to have played for any other team in NFL History would probably have been first ballot Hall of Famers. No bias? Please.

Did you ever hear a player or coach say that Art Monk changed the way the game is played? I ask that with no disrespect to Art Monk who is being honored this year and I think it is long overdue.

Bob Hayes did change the way the game is played. In an era when passing was minimal he was such an unstoppable force that teams feared him and Zone Defenses were created to try and stop him. When a man like Don Shula mentions you as the one player who he openly feared it should say something about that player. A lot more than the stats, but if you want to look only at stats for impact on the game look at how many of his catches were scores and how many yards per catch he averaged.

Bob Hayes, not Michael Irvin, holds the Cowboys record for TD Receptions. Look at how many receptions each had and then you get an appreciation for just how explosive Hayes was. Look at his first 5 years in the NFL. Double digit TDS every year. In that era no other WR was doing that. Not even the great Don Hutson or the great Raymond Berry or the great Lynn Swann. Hayes did and him alone. Swann's stats don't measure up to Hayes, who was a 4 time All Pro.

No bias against Hayes? Of course there is. If he was a Steeler he'd be in.

Cliff Harris is widely regarded as the Best Safety of the 1970's, a 6 time Pro Bowl honoree, 3 time All Pro, with 29 INTs, 10 forced fumbles, 18 fumble recoveries and a 25.7 avg. as a kick returner. 30 years and counting that he has not been properly honored.

Chuck Howley was a 7 time All Pro and a 6 time Pro Bowl honoree on top of being a Super Bowl MVP and probably having the best back to back Super Bowl performances any defensive player ever had. 35 years and counting that he has not been properly honored.

Don't tell me there's no bias against the Cowboys. I'm not stupid.
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excellent post :bow:
 
I think Drew deserves the Ring of Honor and if Lynn Swann deserves the Hall...well, there is no question Pearson belongs.
 
He will live long in Cowboy lore.
Fearless in the flats. Took a beating but kept on clicking.
Beyond that, he never ascended to the top tier i.e. Swann, Irvin, etc.
Enough whining from you, Drew. Just be happy you wore the star.
 
KD;2093319 said:
The bottom line? There's no bias against the 'Boys. Pearson simply doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. His legacy would be well served if he'd suture his mouth shut. Now.
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Drew Pearson was a great football player who, like a lot of great football players, doesn't merit the Hall of Fame. Jay Novacek was a great football player who also doesn't deserve the Hall. And Don Perkins. And Bob Hayes. And George Andrie. And Herb Scott. And Cliff Harris. And Too Tall Jones. And Harvey Martin. 90% of great players don't merit the Hall. Only the best of the best do.

If, however, Larry Allen doesn't get in, that's worth a beef.
 
BuckyG;2095254 said:
Drew Pearson was a great football player who, like a lot of great football players, doesn't merit the Hall of Fame. Jay Novacek was a great football player who also doesn't deserve the Hall. And Don Perkins. And Bob Hayes. And George Andrie. And Herb Scott. And Cliff Harris. And Too Tall Jones. And Harvey Martin. 90% of great players don't merit the Hall. Only the best of the best do.

If, however, Larry Allen doesn't get in, that's worth a beef.
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And yet, as it relates to Drew Pearson exclusion, there is no mention of the cons concerning Lynn Swann's enshrinement. Zippo. Imo, this post must be taken with a grain of salt.
 
When Steve Young made it on the first ballot I knew something was up. Won 1 SB (which we should have won) had good numbers but not long enough for my taste. First ballot is reserved for Hall of Famers of The Hall of Fame like Emmitt, Marino, Elway, Payton, Barry, Favre, Montana. When they put Young in first ballot it took the luster off of going in on your first try. To be honest Irvin was eligible that year and was much better at wr than he was at qb.
 
I love Drew Pearson but if you think he should be in the ROH wouldn't it make more sense to have Tony Hill in the Ring? His numbers are actually better than Drew.

Drew Person in 11 years had 489 catches for 7,822 yards and 48 TD
Tony Hill in 10 years had 479 catches for 7,988 yards and 51 TD
 
Doomsday101;2095877 said:
I love Drew Pearson but if you think he should be in the ROH wouldn't it make more sense to have Tony Hill in the Ring? His numbers are actually better than Drew.

Drew Person in 11 years had 489 catches for 7,822 yards and 48 TD
Tony Hill in 10 years had 479 catches for 7,988 yards and 51 TD
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Does that include post-season stats? After all, Swann's a Hall of Famer (principally) for his January exploits.
 
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