Why penalties have become so mind numbing

[Diehardblues]

You're beginning to sound like PAPPYDOG!!!!!!!!!

There's proof, but if you don't allow the possibility, you will never see it.

Proof of poor officiating or a league side collusion to keep games close and preferential treatment ?

 

[kskboys]

Then what exactly are you claiming?

Nothing. I'm stating my observations and trying to figure them out.

You know, Greg, I once saw a housecat that was about 6 foot long from nose to end of tail and looked to weigh maybe 150 lbs. Since I don't believe housecats get that big, didn't happen, right?

 

[kskboys]

Proof of poor officiating or a league side collusion to keep games close or preferential treatment ?

Observational proof based on a pattern. However, nothing that can be proven.

Why? Because whatever is happening, the penalty is an actuality. It appears to be more a case of ignoring some penalties and calling others.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist and I have no idea how it's being done.

 

[kskboys]

Yep remember that and believe we discussed it before . League knew Jax was not going to bring the viewing audience that NE would . Lot of big companies paying serious money to have there products seen by the maximum amount of people on that day

Yeah, I wish I knew, simply out of morbid curiousity, exactly how they're doing it. I really couldn't guess. As Greg said, I have no confidence in the refs keeping quiet if they were all in on it.

 

[Diehardblues]

Nothing. I'm stating my observations and trying to figure them out.

You know, Greg, I once saw a housecat that was about 6 foot long from nose to end of tail and looked to weigh maybe 150 lbs. Since I don't believe housecats get that big, didn't happen, right?

That’s not a good anology.

You really believe if there was any evidence there could be something going on it wouldn’t be investigated further?

You’re trying to explain poor officiating . I get it but unless you think it’s just one official in one game then your sounding more like noise instead of a well thought out profiler.

And if it’s an individual occurrence do you even know his name, origin, fanhood or history? And why I’m questioning how much thought you’ve given this.

 

[Diehardblues]

Observational proof based on a pattern. However, nothing that can be proven.

Why? Because whatever is happening, the penalty is an actuality. It appears to be more a case of ignoring some penalties and calling others.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist and I have no idea how it's being done.

Honest answer . I under the frustration but it sounds more paranoia to me without any concrete evidence. At least some history on this particular official or crew.

 

[Diehardblues]

Let’s assume for argument the official hates the Jaguars or loves the Patriots. Don’t you think after that game any personal history would have been called on it?

Has hevever called a bad penalty on one of their games before? Any history. Let’s conduct our own investigation.

Shoot, in the Elliot case last year one of the people on the deciding board was questioned because they live in NY and a known big Giant fan.

 

[Blackrain]

Yeah, I wish I knew, simply out of morbid curiousity, exactly how they're doing it. I really couldn't guess. As Greg said, I have no confidence in the refs keeping quiet if they were all in on it.

Not sure how they are getting it done either but I do know that there is a crazy amount of money at stake . So with unlimited resources anything is possible but I agree seems impossible to keep refs quiet

 

[kskboys]

That’s not a good anology.

You really believe if there was any evidence there could be something going on it wouldn’t be investigated further?

You’re trying to explain poor officiating . I get it but unless you think it’s just one official in one game then your sounding more like noise instead of a well thought out profiler.

And if it’s an individual occurrence do you even know his name, origin, fanhood or history? And why I’m questioning how much thought you’ve given this.

I'm not trying to explain anything. You keep on accusing me of having an agenda.

You are actually the one who is sounding like noise. It's like I explain myself, and you don't listen.

I don't give any thought to this, and I've told you that from the start.

Greg, it is an observation. I'm not accusing, I'm not interested in researching it, I have no agenda.

 

[wecasa]

the problem is you have these giant high def tvs all over the stadium and fans can see super slo mo replays of questionable calls. It didn't used to be that way. I remember when all you had were score boards with lightbulbs in them and occasionally you got to see some silly animation of a ball going through the uprights.

The league needs to take advantage of technology. Simplify the rules. Streamline the challenge process.

 

[pancakeman]

Agree that the stoppages for review are way way too long. I don't understand why, when it takes me 20 seconds to see in the replay what the call should have been from my couch, it takes the professional refs 10 times longer.

 

[Diehardblues]

I'm not trying to explain anything. You keep on accusing me of having an agenda.

You are actually the one who is sounding like noise. It's like I explain myself, and you don't listen.

I don't give any thought to this, and I've told you that from the start.

Greg, it is an observation. I'm not accusing, I'm not interested in researching it, I have no agenda.

When you throw accusations out there though it places into question. In order for there to be something corrupt or partisan going on there has to be some collusion of some type going on.

 

[buybuydandavis]

So, you believe the officials colluded to put Pats in, just a bad call or an individual official playing partisan officiating ?

There’s a huge difference from individual partisan or incompetence and a decided plan of collusion either between the crew and or the league.

Which in that case it couldn’t be just one crew it would have to include everyone 250 something games a year .

Intracorporate "collusion" happens all the time. Employees know what the bosses want even for things the bosses won't say out loud. Which is a whole lot of things. Employees give it to them. You don't need memos to make it happen.

 

[kskboys]

When you throw accusations out there though it places into question. In order for there to be something corrupt or partisan going on there has to be some collusion of some type going on.

Absolutely. There is. I can see it. I simply don't know what it is or how it's being done.

 

[kskboys]

Intracorporate "collusion" happens all the time. Employees know what the bosses want even for things the bosses won't say out loud. Which is a whole lot of things. Employees give it to them. You don't need memos to make it happen.

What's shocking to me is how many just deny it out of hand because they just KNOW it just can't be.

I accept the fact that this world isn't honest all the time, and that the bigger the money, the more chance that there is dishonesty and such.

 

[Diehardblues]

Intracorporate "collusion" happens all the time. Employees know what the bosses want even for things the bosses won't say out loud. Which is a whole lot of things. Employees give it to them. You don't need memos to make it happen.

I’m curious exactly what the directive is each week with 16 different officiating crews?

Ok guys” we want the Pats in the Super Bowl”
And “ keep it close in Dallas”

Do we even realize how ridiculous this is.

It isn’t like throwing one game in a season or a series in baseball . This would be a league wide effort with hundreds of officials that everyone for how many years have taken to their graves. They haven’t told their wives, parents, children , girlfriends , etc .
Not a peep. Lol

 

[Diehardblues]

Y’all do realize these officials have regular jobs during the day and many of them are reputable businessman , bankers, etc.

This isn’t your local Jocals on Friday night. Lol

 

[Diehardblues]

What's shocking to me is how many just deny it out of hand because they just KNOW it just can't be.

I accept the fact that this world isn't honest all the time, and that the bigger the money, the more chance that there is dishonesty and such.

It would be the greatest cover up in sports history and modern era .

I think what amazes me the most is that those in power haven’t looked into it if there was serious concern.

I’m not denying it isn’t possible but I don’t believe in this era of technology and instant exposure it would be held under wraps very long.

 

[Diehardblues]

Officiating isn’t an exact science . These are part time jobs. They’ve always been highly criticized but today’s technology exposes them even more.

And they have had more taken away from them. They really don’t need to make the right call if it can be reviewed anymore.

The most important aspect Instant Replay and reviewing calls intent was to reduce calls effecting the outcomes of games. I’d say on the most part it has. That call in AFC champ game was one of those that will always be questionable which unfortunately has always been part of the game.

 

[Diehardblues]

Absolutely. There is. I can see it. I simply don't know what it is or how it's being done.

Don’t you think that those who’d be more effected by it like the gambling world or other owners upset not to mention lawmakers and the justice dept would call for an investigation because of the enourmous money involved along with public perception. Or are they all involved with the cover up too?

You say your thoughts aren’t a Conspiracy theory but they are.