Why people continue to defend the Jones is mindnumbing to me

[Sydla]

Playing well in camp and preseason games is far better than what we've seen from Ball who has played terribly in games and had some struggles in camp.

But yeah, the same. Hahaha.

 

[Dre11]

And neither do you. And neither do the Cowboys. So you are making my point for me. The fact they had a LT they knew hadn't finished a full season in 6 years and very likely would get hurt again and decided that their best option to try to mitigate the downside that comes with missing your LT would be two completely unproven OTs is laughable.

That's the point. Maybe Ball turns it around and is great. Maybe Waletzko can battle through his shoulder issue and play fine. But the odds are just as likely, maybe even more than just likely, that neither is a viable option to hold up enough at OT to keep this team winning games.

You seem to subscribe to the theory that as long as you have a warm body or two at a position, you are covered in case of injury. That's preposterous. The Cowboys are taking a massive risk with their OL right now assuming they can get barely competent play out of a guy who has been awful this camp and a rookie who probably needs shoulder surgery.

Frankly, at this point, maybe they should just put Tyler Smith there, take their lumps as he struggles and hope he develops into a starting caliber LT.

Exactly so he's no more of a sure thing than anybody here...lol

 

[LittleD]

LOL.

Nothing like speeding up that time table due to your own mistakes.

Can't have All Pros at every position when one of your All Pros is out for the season. No All Pros left to get.

 

[Dre11]

Playing well in camp and preseason games is far better than what we've seen from Ball who has played terribly in games and had some struggles in camp.

But yeah, the same. Hahaha.

Noah Brown has played well in camp and preseason for years , and barely saw the field.. lol

 

[Sydla]

Exactly so he's no more of a sure thing than anybody here...lol

The odds of Dillard holding down an OT spot in a situation where one of the Eagles two OTs gets hurt is much better than our current situation. gain, it's hilarious that you think otherwise. Shoot, the Commanders have a better backup OT situation than we do too.

 

[Sydla]

Noah Brown has played well in camp and preseason for years , and barely saw the field.. lol

And if Noah Brown hadn't play well or looked bad in games, then we'd all know he wasn't all that good and not a viable option to be a replacement WR. But guess what? Brown has actually shown in real games he is serviceable. Not great, not awful. He's serviceable as a backup WR.

You seem to want to gloss over the fact that the Cowboys seemingly banked on two unknowns and not surprising, that high risk move has shown us that neither is ready to be a backup OT in this league. Right now, we don't have a serviceable OT. Most sane people are not surprised that the Cowboys are in a situation where they literally are scrambling to find someone to slide into the LT spot.

On the other hand, the homers seem completely surprised that Ball or Waletzko appear to not be a realistic option at this point.

 

[Dre11]

The odds of Dillard holding down an OT spot in a situation where one of the Eagles two OTs gets hurt is much better than our current situation. gain, it's hilarious that you think otherwise. Shoot, the Commanders have a better backup OT situation than we do too.

Who's talking about odds? He's a bust and disappointment for a reason...lol

 

[Dre11]

And if Noah Brown hadn't play well or looked bad in games, then we'd all know he wasn't all that good and not a viable option to be a replacement WR.

You seem to want to gloss over the fact that the Cowboys seemingly banked on two unknowns and not surprising, that high risk move has shown us that neither is ready to be a backup OT in this league.

Because they're unknown doesn't mean they won't be able to do the job. They went this way. It's time to find out , just like any other team would do. If they can't, they'll sign somebody or trade for someone, just as if they dud it earlier.

 

[Sydla]

Who's talking about odds? He's a bust and disappointment for a reason...lol

Yeah he is a bust. He was a first round pick that they drafted hoping he'd be a high level LT for them into the future. He's clearly not that.

But on the otherhand, he's serviceable as a backup OT at this point in his career and gives Philly a better option in case they lose an OT for a few games than we have right now. Again, it's hilarious that you are arguing that Ball or Waletzko are just as good as Dillard.

At this point, you are just moving goal posts around and creating strawmen arguments. It's very simple. The Cowboys knew they had a LT with injury concerns. They knew they needed a backup OT that was serviceable given Tyron could likely miss some games as he has for the last 6 seasons. They thought a 2nd year guy with zero NFL snaps and a rookie late round pick would solve that backup OT problem.

It clearly has not as Ball has been terrible and Waletzko is raw and clearly needed work (and then got hurt). Most fans are not surprised the Cowboys are in this spot. You, apparently, are.

 

[Sydla]

Because they're unknown doesn't mean they won't be able to do the job. They went this way. It's time to find out , just like any other team would do. If they can't, they'll sign somebody or trade for someone, just as if they dud it earlier.

Waletzko has a bum shoulder that they initially thought needed surgery but now are going to see if he can play through the pain. Ball has been awful in camp, and has struggled with backup caliber DL in two preseason games.

We are at that point that they "can't". Frankly, it was dumb and risky to assume either guy would.

 

[Dre11]

Waletzko has a bum shoulder that they initially thought needed surgery but now are going to see if he can play through the pain. Ball has been awful in camp, and has struggled with backup caliber DL in two preseason games.

We are at that point that they "can't". Frankly, it was dumb and risky to assume either guy would.

It wasn't risky, nobody e pect waletzo to get hurt. Who as you say about Dillard, was doing well in camp

 

[zrinkill]

Because they're unknown doesn't mean they won't be able to do the job.

 

[fivetwos]

I was very concerned about the offense in general BEFORE this happened.

That unit will need to be remade in the offeseason, meaning an offensive heavy draft....the way all problems are supposedly solved in Dallas.

By the time the offense is fixed, the defense will have taken a hit....Quinn will probably leave...and in circles we continue to go.

 

[Sydla]

It wasn't risky, nobody e pect waletzo to get hurt. Who as you say about Dillard, was doing well in camp

LOL, he as a 5th round pick. He was a raw OT prospect. Expecting your 5th round pick from North Dakota to be able to play right away as a starting caliber OT?

Yeah, that's risky. How many 5th round OTs are developed enough and are able to make impacts at OT in their rookie years?

Waletzko was doing well at camp? He reinjured his shoulder in the 2nd practice back in July and didn't see the field again until two days ago when he took some limited snaps with the 2nd team OL.

 

[Dre11]

LOL, he as a 5th round pick. He was a raw OT prospect. Expecting your 5th round pick from North Dakota to be able to play right away as a starting caliber OT?

Yeah, that's risky. How many 5th round OTs are developed enough and are able to make impacts at OT in their rookie years?

Waletzko was doing well at camp? He reinjured his shoulder in the 2nd practice back in July and didn't see the field again until two days ago when he took some limited snaps with the 2nd team OL.

You laugh at him being a 5th round pick, yet your boy Dillard was benched by a 7th round pick that you called on of the best ...lol

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

How they have handled the OT spot since last season ended is a case study in their ineptitude. Tyron Smith is a great LT, when healthy. He's never completely healthy. Banking on him to be healthy for a full season is always a risk. It should surprise zero people, including the two nitwits running the team, that Smith got hurt....... again.

They decided the other starting OT, Collins, was too much of a headache, making too much money to bring back. They had Steele in the wings and they thought he made Collins expendable. Only problem is that even with his flaws, Collins was easily one of your 2-3 best OTs on the roster. With, again, the other top OT being a complete injury risk every season. Nevertheless, they sent Collins packing.

So they had Smith and Steele. And then the depth chart was basically Ball, a guy who had never taken a NFL snap. They sat on their ***** in FA when there were decent OT options out there in FA. They threw a draft pick in the later rounds at an OT from North Dakota. Jerry and Stephen looked at each other and believed they were in fine shape at OT.

They weren't. Most fans have been saying this for two months. But Jerry and Stephen plowed ahead thinking everything was great. And then what was entirely predictable, Smith getting hurt, happened and what the Cowboys have right now is a turnstile in Ball and them forcing a kid with a shoulder injury from North Dakota to try to play through the pain and not damage his shoulder further.

And many yahoos on this board defended the front office on how they handled the OT spot. Geezus.

Oh and guess what? They are doing the same thing with the WR spot.

It’s probably more people are just tired of hearing nonstop crying about it. Like them or not they aren’t selling the team or hiring a gm. So why cry about it nonstop? Focus on what you can control. If it bugs people that much they should pull for another team.

 

[terra]

It’s probably more people are just tired of hearing nonstop crying about it. Like them or not they aren’t selling the team or hiring a gm. So why cry about it nonstop? Focus on what you can control. If it bugs people that much they should pull for another team.

The only control we fans have is to boycot cowboys merchandise and games.

 

[Sydla]

It’s probably more people are just tired of hearing nonstop crying about it. Like them or not they aren’t selling the team or hiring a gm. So why cry about it nonstop? Focus on what you can control. If it bugs people that much they should pull for another team.

Conversely, since the creation of sports, fans have often complained when their team fails. This team has failed for 25+ years. It's the nature of sports fandom. If that bugs people, then maybe they shouldn't visit message boards of the teams they like. They will only get angry that people have the audacity to talk about the failures of their favorite teams.

 

[Sydla]

You laugh at him being a 5th round pick, yet your boy Dillard was benched by a 7th round pick that you called on of the best ...lol

Mailata was a 7th round pick. But he didn't just hit the ground running and become the Eagles starting LT. He was drafted in 2018 and didn't actually start games until 2020 and then didn't become the full time starter until 2021.

But yeah, that's exactly like expecting your 5th round pick from North Dakota to make an immediate impact as a backup OT turned starter.

Hey, if we want to talk about where Waletzko is in the 2025 season, that'll be fine. Maybe, like Mailata, by then he will have developed into a good OT. But like Mailata, he's not ready to make an impact and become a starter as a rookie if one of the staring OTs got hurt. The Cowboys made a mistake thinking otherwise.

 

[Captain-Crash]

what's not to like about the egomaniac? The old senile guy is cool. I hope he buys you guys' favorite basketball team too. Heck, he should get into NASCAR too. He could hire Jason Garrett as the head of the pit crew and maybe have the first blind driver. He likes projects.