Why people continue to defend the Jones is mindnumbing to me

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is mindnumbing to me.

How they have handled the OT spot since last season ended is a case study in their ineptitude. Tyron Smith is a great LT, when healthy. He's never completely healthy. Banking on him to be healthy for a full season is always a risk. It should surprise zero people, including the two nitwits running the team, that Smith got hurt....... again.

They decided the other starting OT, Collins, was too much of a headache, making too much money to bring back. They had Steele in the wings and they thought he made Collins expendable. Only problem is that even with his flaws, Collins was easily one of your 2-3 best OTs on the roster. With, again, the other top OT being a complete injury risk every season. Nevertheless, they sent Collins packing.

So they had Smith and Steele. And then the depth chart was basically Ball, a guy who had never taken a NFL snap. They sat on their ***** in FA when there were decent OT options out there in FA. They threw a draft pick in the later rounds at an OT from North Dakota. Jerry and Stephen looked at each other and believed they were in fine shape at OT.

They weren't. Most fans have been saying this for two months. But Jerry and Stephen plowed ahead thinking everything was great. And then what was entirely predictable, Smith getting hurt, happened and what the Cowboys have right now is a turnstile in Ball and them forcing a kid with a shoulder injury from North Dakota to try to play through the pain and not damage his shoulder further.

And many yahoos on this board defended the front office on how they handled the OT spot. Geezus.

Oh and guess what? They are doing the same thing with the WR spot.

This yahoo will speak for himself. Us yahoo’s arent defended JJ’s results. It’s quit clear the they’ve fallen short for decades. So I have a choice just like you do and all us fans. Stop watching the Cowboys and find another team or fellow the Cowboys and make the best of it. The best does not waste my time pissing moaning about what I cant change. I like JJ. It really is entertainment.








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[Sydla]

I agree that the Jones’s are stupid. But McCarthy isn’t. He foreseen this happening and even said McGovern is the starter before Tyron went down. He anticipated Tyron getting injured and I guarantee Tyler will take the LT reps for the next 2.5 weeks. I’m excited about Tyler starting at LT and don’t think he’ll ever give that job back. He’s much more powerful and physical than Tyron at this point.

Except McCarthy said a few weeks ago they probably made a mistake in giving Tyler Smith reps at OT in OTAs and offseason workouts when he likely should have been getting more reps at OG. And since the start of August camp, he's been solely at LG.

If they move Tyler Smith to LT, it's a move made out of desperation and not a move McCarthy had been planning all along.

But, yes, it would be great if Smith actually settled in and turned out to be a really nice LT.

 

[Dre11]

The posters that were defending Jerry and Stephen and their "roster building" up until this point. Most fans could see OT was an issue. Jerry and Stephen, apparently, thought they were in fine shape at OT.

Why people put faith and trust in those two is peculiar. What we are facing now was entirely predictable. And it looks like Jerry and Stephen got caught with their pants around their ankles. Again.

And it could happen at WR too. If Lamb gets nicked up, they are screwed.

So who were you signing as a swing tackle ? Mind you this person had to be willingbto be a backup until Smith got hurt, they drafted Smith. Was looking to develop Ball.

 

[Sydla]

So who were you signing as a swing tackle ? Mind you this person had to be willingbto be a backup until Smith got hurt, they drafted Smith. Was looking to develop Ball.

Smith wasn't drafted to be the LT this year. They wanted him to play LG. McCarthy made that clear a few weeks ago when he admitted they probably made a mistake playing him at OT as much as they did in OTAs when he was going to play LG for them this year.

Great, develop Ball. How's that working out? Most people could see that banking on an unproven, young OT coming off injury to be the guy to plug into a situation where Tyron Smith went down was extremely risky. But that's what Jerry often does. He takes the risky move, rarely provides any insurance and then wonders why his team failed again.

 

[Dre11]

This is the best defense you can come up with? LOL.

No, teams don't have all pro level OTs in reserve. But most teams also don't have starting LTs that can't stay healthy for entire seasons. Smith getting hurt was utterly predictable. Most smart teams would have likely taken insurance out in this situation with a veteran OT that can play a little knowing Smith could get hurt at any point.

Not our cracker jack GMs. They thought Ball and Waletzko were all they needed. Don't include Tyler Smith. They never had any intention of him actually playing OT this year. Hence when when camp started they gave him all his snaps at LG. Plus, he's clearly not ready to play LT at this level at this time. He's too raw.

The Jones botched this thing. They just did. They had a great LT who hadn't finished a full season in 6 years and yet they acted like he'd play all 17 and they had no need for veteran help.

Most team, if their starting tackle goes down are in the same shape as the Cowboys. Find me 1 team that has a ready made starting LT as a backup

 

[Dre11]

Smith wasn't drafted to be the LT this year. They wanted him to play LG. McCarthy made that clear a few weeks ago when he admitted they probably made a mistake playing him at OT as much as they did in OTAs when he was going to play LG for them this year.

Great, develop Ball. How's that working out? Most people could see that banking on an unproven, young OT coming off injury to be the guy to plug into a situation where Tyron Smith went down was extremely risky. But that's what Jerry often does. He takes the risky move, rarely provides any insurance and then wonders why his team failed again.

He was drafted to be a LT , the initial talk was he was going to be a left side player. Go back and listen to when he was drafted. With Tyron still here they wanted him to play guard so he could get on the field and play with the idea of him moving to LT , he took LT reps in OTAs. Again tell me who was available to play swing tackle in free agency that isnt still on the street.

 

[Jarntt]

Every team in the league has pro bowl level LTs just waiting in the wings for when these things happen.

The Jones' are to blame!!!!!

The rationale was...why bring in a washed up turnstyle, like they have done in recent years, instead of just going with young guys with upside?

I like the approach, now we will see if they are right.

Oh stop it. Those aren't the only two options.

 

[Dre11]

Smith wasn't drafted to be the LT this year. They wanted him to play LG. McCarthy made that clear a few weeks ago when he admitted they probably made a mistake playing him at OT as much as they did in OTAs when he was going to play LG for them this year.

Great, develop Ball. How's that working out? Most people could see that banking on an unproven, young OT coming off injury to be the guy to plug into a situation where Tyron Smith went down was extremely risky. But that's what Jerry often does. He takes the risky move, rarely provides any insurance and then wonders why his team failed again.

It isn't risky , you have 3 players you were trying to get ready to be a swing tackle, they brought in veterans before behind Tyron and none of them worked. CHaz Green, Byron bell, Ty Nseki, at some point you have to try to develop in house.

 

[Sydla]

Most team, if their starting tackle goes down are in the same shape as the Cowboys. Find me 1 team that has a ready made starting LT as a backup

Philly has Dillard which is easily a better option than we have right now. I suspect that most "smart" teams knowing their LT has an injury history wouldn't then assume that they were fine at backup tackle with a 2nd year guy with no experience and a late round rookie who has a shoulder issue. I suspect almost all would have brought in a vet OT or two into fall camp to give themselves some insurance.

The fact you are trying to excuse this situation is hilarious.

 

[DFWJC]

He was drafted to be a LT , the initial talk was he was going to be a left side player. Go back and listen to when he was drafted. With Tyron still here they wanted him to play guard so he could get on the field and play with the idea of him moving to LT , he took LT reps in OTAs. Again tell me who was available to play swing tackle in free agency that isnt still on the street.

Of course, he was.
He was drafted to be Tyron's eventual replacement. Plain and simple.
They just hoped he'd have more games under his belt before that happened.

 

[Sydla]

It isn't risky , you have 3 players you were trying to get ready to be a swing tackle, they brought in veterans before behind Tyron and none of them worked. CHaz Green, Byron bell, Ty Nseki, at some point you have to try to develop in house.

It's completely risky.

They really had two guys trying to lock down that backup OT spot, not three. They never intended for Tyler Smith to be an option at LT this year. McCarthy came out at the beginning of August camp and told us that. Sure, down the road he may be a LT option but they intended to have him play OG this year and probably had him working at OT a bit too much in OTAs.

So you were left with a 2nd year guy in Ball coming off an injury with ZERO experience and then a late round rookie OT who developed a shoulder issue in July that they initially thought required surgery but now are holding off hoping he can play through the pain because they are in a bind.

Trying to sell this as a perfectly acceptable approach to an OT issue for a team the GM thinks can compete is laughable.

 

[Dre11]

Philly has Dillard which is easily a better option than we have right now. I suspect that most "smart" teams knowing their LT has an injury history wouldn't then assume that they were fine at backup tackle with a 2nd year guy with no experience and a late round rookie who has a shoulder issue. I suspect almost all would have brought in a vet OT or two into fall camp to give themselves some insurance.

The fact you are trying to excuse this situation is hilarious.

Dillard so good he's a backup that was drafted, just as we have backup olineman...lol the fact you can't come up with 1 name that was available says it all, you're here to just whine and complain

 

[Creeper]

Every team in the league has pro bowl level LTs just waiting in the wings for when these things happen.

The Jones' are to blame!!!!!

The rationale was...why bring in a washed up turnstyle, like they have done in recent years, instead of just going with young guys with upside?

I like the approach, now we will see if they are right.

First, that other teams are bad at fixing a roster does not take Jerry Jones off the hook. The object of the game is to be the best not just among the worst.

Having said that, Who didn't expect Tyron Smith to get hurt this year? Anyone? Anyone? Wished, maybe, but I think the entire world, including a small tribe in the jungles of Mozambique was laughing at the thought of Tyron playing a 17 game season. But I also remember people counting on Josh Ball back in June too and talking about what a find Waletzko was.

I have been complaining about Jerry cutting La'el Collins since he did. I was saying to keep him until some stupid team had an injury to an offensive tackle then try to fleece them for Collins. Little did I consider the team that would suffer a loss at OT was the Cowboys!

In this regard, Jerry has not given me his reasons for getting rid of Collins. Maybe he had good ones. All I can say is if he has a good year for the Bengals Jerry looks like an idiot - which does not seem to bother him.

 

[Sydla]

He was drafted to be a LT , the initial talk was he was going to be a left side player. Go back and listen to when he was drafted. With Tyron still here they wanted him to play guard so he could get on the field and play with the idea of him moving to LT , he took LT reps in OTAs. Again tell me who was available to play swing tackle in free agency that isnt still on the street.

And then McCarthy came out and very clearly said it was likely a mistake to have him take snaps at LT in OTAs because he was going to play OG for us in 2022. And since the start of real camp, he's only played LG.

So any talk that he was considered part of the solution at LT if Smith got hurt this year is just spin at this point. The plan was never for him to be the swing OT this year.

 

[Dre11]

It's completely risky.

They really had two guys trying to lock down that backup OT spot, not three. They never intended for Tyler Smith to be an option at LT this year. McCarthy came out at the beginning of August camp and told us that. Sure, down the road he may be a LT option but they intended to have him play OG this year and probably had him working at OT a bit too much in OTAs.

So you were left with a 2nd year guy in Ball coming off an injury with ZERO experience and then a late round rookie OT who developed a shoulder issue in July that they initially thought required surgery but now are holding off hoping he can play through the pain because they are in a bind.

Trying to sell this as a perfectly acceptable approach to an OT issue for a team the GM thinks can compete is laughable.

You drafted these players TO BE BACKUPS. Again name me a team that has a ready made starter at left Tackle.

 

[Big_D]

Most team, if their starting tackle goes down are in the same shape as the Cowboys. Find me 1 team that has a ready made starting LT as a backup

Smith is very injury prone. It’s no longer a matter of if he goes down but when. Not every team is in that situation. And you ultimately have to prepare for his absence!

 

[Sydla]

Dillard so good he's a backup that was drafted, just as we have backup olineman...lol the fact you can't come up with 1 name that was available says it all, you're here to just whine and complain

Dillard is easily better than any option we have at OT right now. You asked to find one team that has a LT in waiting. Philly does. If one of their OTs goes down, they have a much better option than we do to fill it.

When does it get tiring for you to always come up with excuses for the bad decisions the Jones make?

 

[Sydla]

You drafted these players TO BE BACKUPS. Again name me a team that has a ready made starter at left Tackle.

Just because you drafted them doesn't mean they can actually play. LOL.

You think that teams don't try to improve situations on their roster because, hey guys, we drafted guys there so they definitely can play and we are fine!

No one ever suggested that there are backup stud LTs just all over the place littering rosters or in FA. But there are teams in way better situations than we are, which is inexcusable given the fact Tyron Smith has a well documented history of not being able to play a full season.

So enough with the strawman. The Cowboy took a risky approach to their backup OT spot and now find themselves in a situation where they have to play basically an entire season with some guys that we don't know can even play (and thus far, have shown to not be very good in camp). But yeah, Jerry and Stephen played this just right.

 

[Dre11]

They put him at guard only to get him on the field and they jad a need at gaurd, otherwise he wouldn't have been taking LT snaps. The position he played all through college.

 

[Dre11]

Smith is very injury prone. It’s no longer a matter of if he goes down but when. Not every team is in that situation. And you ultimately have to prepare for his absence!

Again, what starting tackle was coming here as backup in free agency and wait for Tyron to go down, and what are you paying him.