Why people continue to defend the Jones is mindnumbing to me

[Dre11]

Dillard is easily better than any option we have at OT right now. You asked to find one team that has a LT in waiting. Philly does. If one of their OTs goes down, they have a much better option than we do to fill it.

When does it get tiring for you to always come up with excuses for the bad decisions the Jones make?

He may be the still drafted him, the same thing we did, and you don't know if he's a starter or not.

 

[Sydla]

He may be the still drafted him, the same thing we did, and you don't know if he's a starter or not.

He's played and been in the system for three years. He's taken NFL snaps in real games. They know a hell of a lot more about his ability to hold down an OT spot than we do with our guys.

But yeah, same thing. LOL.

 

[Dre11]

Just because you drafted them doesn't mean they can actually play. LOL.

You think that teams don't try to improve situations on their roster because, hey guys, we drafted guys there so they definitely can play and we are fine!

No one ever suggested that there are backup stud LTs just all over the place littering rosters or in FA. But there are teams in way better situations than we are, which is inexcusable given the fact Tyron Smith has a well documented history of not being able to play a full season.

So enough with the strawman. The Cowboy took a risky approach to their backup OT spot and now find themselves in a situation where they have to play basically an entire season with some guys that we don't know can even play (and thus far, have shown to not be very good in camp). But yeah, Jerry and Stephen played this just right.

Just as you don't know if Dillard can play that was drafted. Point is Left tackles are scarce across the league and in high demand. I m still waiting for that tackle you're so sure we could've gotten

 

[AyeAtey]

All show No go!

Clueless

Obtuse.

I mean give him credit for building an empire.

But, equal criticism comes when football, the game and it's prizes hasn't reached and produced the same lofty height, under his "leadership" the past quarter of a century and counting, cherished by huge loyal and insane fan base, deemed unacceptable and reprehensive!

 

[Dre11]

He's played and been in the system for three years. He's taken NFL snaps in real games. They know a hell of a lot more about his ability to hold down an OT spot than we do with our guys.

But yeah, same thing. LOL.

And he's still a backup, the dude was benched when he did get in the game...lol

 

[Big_D]

Again, what starting tackle was coming here as backup in free agency and wait for Tyron to go down, and what are you paying him.

Swing tackle could’ve and should’ve been addressed before 2022. You can’t play the “no one’s available card”. The team dropped the ball. Who are you going to get at the end of August 2 weeks before the season starts? That is a tough question!

 

[Dre11]

Swing tackle could’ve and should’ve been addressed before 2022. You can’t play the “no one’s available card”. The team dropped the ball. Who are you going to get at the end of August 2 weeks before the season starts? That is a tough question!

Didn't they drafted Ball with the idea of him being a tackle before 2022? Unfortunately he got hurt.

 

[Sydla]

Didn't they drafted Ball with the idea of him being a tackle before 2022? Unfortunately he got hurt.

They did. And he barely played in 2021. They had zero idea heading into this season if he could actually play at a level that would make him a viable OT. But they ignored that and just assumed they didn't need a vet OT in FA because Ball would apparently handle the spot. The only thing they did at OT for this coming season beyond that was add a late round project from North Dakota. They had zero intention of Tyler Smith playing OT in 2022 or being a factor in the swing OT battle.

Trying to sell this as a sound, well thought out plan at backup OT is hilarious.

 

[Sydla]

And he's still a backup, the dude was benched when he did get in the game...lol

Duh, he's a backup. Most guys that are backups aren't as good as the starters. No one has ever argued in this thread or any other thread that the Cowboys needed to sign a backup OT that was as good as Tyron Smith.

But some backups are better than others. The fact the Cowboys knew Tyron Smith had a decent injury history and they likely would need a competent OT to fill in for a few games, at least, and they decided their best option was to let two unproven, having never taken a NFL snap, players battle it out for an important OL position is funny. And typical of the roster mismanagement we've seen from Jerry for the last two decades.

 

[Dre11]

They did. And he barely played in 2021. They had zero idea heading into this season if he could actually play at a level that would make him a viable OT. But they ignored that and just assumed they didn't need a vet OT in FA because Ball would apparently handle the spot. The only thing they did at OT for this coming season beyond that was add a late round project from North Dakota. They had zero intention of Tyler Smith playing OT in 2022 or being a factor in the swing OT battle.

Trying to sell this as a sound, well thought out plan at backup OT is hilarious.

Again they drafted for the position, you have yet to come up with someone out there.

 

[Dre11]

Duh, he's a backup. Most guys that are backups aren't as good as the starters. No one has ever argued in this thread or any other thread that the Cowboys needed to sign a backup OT that was as good as Tyron Smith.

But some backups are better than others. The fact the Cowboys knew Tyron Smith had a decent injury history and they likely would need a competent OT to fill in for a few games, at least, and they decided their best option was to let two unproven, having never taken a NFL snap, players battle it out for an important OL position is funny. And typical of the roster mismanagement we've seen from Jerry for the last two decades.

So if their lt goes down , they're in the same shape, a 1st round pick who lost the job and only had 3 starts. Who also is carrying the bust label...lol

 

[Sydla]

So if their lt goes down , they're in the same shape, a 1st round pick who lost the job and only had 3 starts. Who also is carrying the bust label...lol

They are not in the same spot. Dillard is a better option at OT than either Ball or Waletzko. It's kind of funny that you are trying to argue otherwise.

 

[Dre11]

Duh, he's a backup. Most guys that are backups aren't as good as the starters. No one has ever argued in this thread or any other thread that the Cowboys needed to sign a backup OT that was as good as Tyron Smith.

But some backups are better than others. The fact the Cowboys knew Tyron Smith had a decent injury history and they likely would need a competent OT to fill in for a few games, at least, and they decided their best option was to let two unproven, having never taken a NFL snap, players battle it out for an important OL position is funny. And typical of the roster mismanagement we've seen from Jerry for the last two decades.

Andre Dillard, Eagles offensive tackle
When the Birds drafted Andre

They are not in the same spot. Dillard is a better option at OT than either Ball or Waletzko. It's kind of funny that you are trying to argue otherwise.

Based on what? He's a 1st round bust who lost his job to a 7th rounder...lol
He had 8 starts not 3

https://insidetheiggles.com/2022/01/07/disappointing-eagles-nfl-regular-season/

 

[Rockport]

is mindnumbing to me.

How they have handled the OT spot since last season ended is a case study in their ineptitude. Tyron Smith is a great LT, when healthy. He's never completely healthy. Banking on him to be healthy for a full season is always a risk. It should surprise zero people, including the two nitwits running the team, that Smith got hurt....... again.

They decided the other starting OT, Collins, was too much of a headache, making too much money to bring back. They had Steele in the wings and they thought he made Collins expendable. Only problem is that even with his flaws, Collins was easily one of your 2-3 best OTs on the roster. With, again, the other top OT being a complete injury risk every season. Nevertheless, they sent Collins packing.

So they had Smith and Steele. And then the depth chart was basically Ball, a guy who had never taken a NFL snap. They sat on their ***** in FA when there were decent OT options out there in FA. They threw a draft pick in the later rounds at an OT from North Dakota. Jerry and Stephen looked at each other and believed they were in fine shape at OT.

They weren't. Most fans have been saying this for two months. But Jerry and Stephen plowed ahead thinking everything was great. And then what was entirely predictable, Smith getting hurt, happened and what the Cowboys have right now is a turnstile in Ball and them forcing a kid with a shoulder injury from North Dakota to try to play through the pain and not damage his shoulder further.

And many yahoos on this board defended the front office on how they handled the OT spot. Geezus.

Oh and guess what? They are doing the same thing with the WR spot.

Haven’t seen anyone defend the Jones on the OL issues.

 

[Sydla]

Haven’t seen anyone defend the Jones on the OL issues.

Must not be reading this thread then. You have a few defending the front office from criticism.

 

[Sydla]

Andre Dillard, Eagles offensive tackle
When the Birds drafted Andre


Based on what? He's a 1st round bust who lost his job to a 7th rounder...lol
He had 8 starts not 3

https://insidetheiggles.com/2022/01/07/disappointing-eagles-nfl-regular-season/

That 7th round pick is actually one of the better young LTs in football. So it's not like Dillard got beat out by a Ball quality OT.

Dillard has played well this camp. Much better than Ball who has been a turnstile in game action. In fact, if the Eagles got drunk and wanted to trade Dillard to us for a reasonable price, we'd likely be silly not to entertain it.

But yeah, keep thinking Ball and Waletzko are just as good as any other backup OTs around the league. It really is funny how you far you'll stretch defending this franchise. Like when you kept trying to tell this board, to the hilarity of most, that Garrett was really a great coach who when fired, would have his pick of head jobs.

Make sure you tune into ND football telecasts this fall to catch the great coach, Jason Garrett, doing color.

 

[Dre11]

That 7th round pick is actually one of the better young LTs in football. So it's not like Dillard got beat out by a Ball quality OT.

Dillard has played well this camp. Much better than Ball who has been a turnstile in game action. In fact, if the Eagles got drunk and wanted to trade Dillard to us for a reasonable price, we'd likely be silly not to entertain it.

But yeah, keep thinking Ball and Waletzko are just as good as any other backup OTs around the league. It really is funny how you far you'll stretch defending this franchise. Like when you kept trying to tell this board, to the hilarity of most, that Garrett was really a great coach who when fired, would have his pick of head jobs.

Make sure you tune into ND football telecasts this fall to catch the great coach, Jason Garrett, doing color.

He was just a 7th round pick that beat out Dillard he became a good LT , if he was so good he wouldn't have lasted til the 7th round. You have no idea how any of these players we have will turn out.

 

[Dre11]

That 7th round pick is actually one of the better young LTs in football. So it's not like Dillard got beat out by a Ball quality OT.

Dillard has played well this camp. Much better than Ball who has been a turnstile in game action. In fact, if the Eagles got drunk and wanted to trade Dillard to us for a reasonable price, we'd likely be silly not to entertain it.

But yeah, keep thinking Ball and Waletzko are just as good as any other backup OTs around the league. It really is funny how you far you'll stretch defending this franchise. Like when you kept trying to tell this board, to the hilarity of most, that Garrett was really a great coach who when fired, would have his pick of head jobs.

Make sure you tune into ND football telecasts this fall to catch the great coach, Jason Garrett, doing

Playing well in camp means what, he ain't doing it I'm games , so he's an unknown too...lol

 

[Sydla]

He was just a 7th round pick that beat out Dillard he became a good LT , if he was so good he wouldn't have lasted til the 7th round. You have no idea how any of these players we have will turn out.

And neither do you. And neither do the Cowboys. So you are making my point for me. The fact they had a LT they knew hadn't finished a full season in 6 years and very likely would get hurt again and decided that their best option to try to mitigate the downside that comes with missing your LT would be two completely unproven OTs is laughable.

That's the point. Maybe Ball turns it around and is great. Maybe Waletzko can battle through his shoulder issue and play fine. But the odds are just as likely, maybe even more than just likely, that neither is a viable option to hold up enough at OT to keep this team winning games.

You seem to subscribe to the theory that as long as you have a warm body or two at a position, you are covered in case of injury. That's preposterous. The Cowboys are taking a massive risk with their OL right now assuming they can get barely competent play out of a guy who has been awful this camp and a rookie who probably needs shoulder surgery.

Frankly, at this point, maybe they should just put Tyler Smith there, take their lumps as he struggles and hope he develops into a starting caliber LT.

 

[Rockport]

Must not be reading this thread then. You have a few defending the front office from criticism.

I’m talking about before you created this thread. But just for info, which post is defeothe FO?