Why should we suspend Roy one game?

[mr.jameswoods]

Are theses the same rules that fined the Atlanta Falcon players for unauthorized shirts and logos supporting Mike Vick, while ignore the Commander players who had unauthorized shirts and logos supporting ST?

It's never a matter of who approved the rules. It's a matter of how they are applied. In these cases, Fuhrer Goodell.

That's a great point. Doomsday mentions mitigating circumstances but I do recall how the former commissioner fined Jake Plummer for wearing Pat Tillman's number on his helmet. You are right, the league was far more uniform in it's judgements back then. I remember that everyone bashed the commissioner but he was unyielding and mentioned the rule had to be applied fairly regardless off mitigating circumstances.

Great point

 

[mr.jameswoods]

I wanted to see a stiffer penalty as well but it did cost Bellichek a good amount of cash and the Pats a 1st rd pick. I would have like more but I think that is a bit more than a slap on the wrist.

They didn't even take the better of their first two round picks away. And relative to what Wade Wilson received, it was certainly a tap on the wrist.

 

[DeaconBlues]

I don't think all situations are exactly same I think you take into account the mitigating circumstances and thus I don't think you use the same punishment for every situation.

And there's the problem I have. Portis scores a TD, raises his shirt with a message for ST, and the league is mum. A Falcon player does the exact same thing, with a MV message. He gets fined. Not to mention all the NFL players with "21" on their eyeblack strips . . .

If it's only about Vick, be a man and say so. If you are going to publicly state it is a uniform violation, then there should have been a record haul in fines that weekend.

 

[windward]

Fuhrer Goodell was not in charge at the time. He would have had Romonowski shot for that . . .

I like CCF's name for Goodell: Roger Robespierre.

 

[Doomsday101]

They didn't even take the better of their first two round picks away. And relative to what Wade Wilson received, it was certainly a tap on the wrist.

As I said I think the punishment should have been more I don't disagree with that I do think it was a bit more than a slap but as you see we all have differing views. I clearly do not think Goodell is playing favorites as some think, that does not mean I will agree with every call he makes but I don’t buy into him trying to do favors for 1 team or owner over another.

 

[Clove]

Actually they went light on Roy. He's had way more horsecollars than were called on him this year. The league did all they could to give a chance to change his ways, IMO.

 

[Doomsday101]

And there's the problem I have. Portis scores a TD, raises his shirt with a message for ST, and the league is mum. A Falcon player does the exact same thing, with a MV message. He gets fined. Not to mention all the NFL players with "21" on their eyeblack strips . . .

If it's only about Vick, be a man and say so. If you are going to publicly state it is a uniform violation, then there should have been a record haul in fines that weekend.

I think there is a bit of a difference honoring a teammate who just lost his life and a player who has committed a felony and is being suspended because of his actions. You may see these 2 things as equal I don't.

 

[windward]

I think there is a bit of a difference honoring a teammate who just lost his life and a player who has committed a felony and is being suspended because of his actions. You may see these 2 things as equal I don't.

It was more uniform int he past, though. I remember when Tagliabue fined Manning for wear high tops as a tribute to Johnny Unitas, who had recently passed away. Is Sean Taylor more deserving of a tribute than Unitas? Sure Taylor was an active player, but Unitas' legacy far outshines anything Taylor did in is career.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

Please explain why we should suspend Roy? I've seen defenders grab a players' facemask from behind and yank their head around which can cause far more damage than doing a horsecollar tackle.

Really? Could you please name one, just ONE player you've EVER seen carted off the field from a facemask? Let alone 4 in one season.

Even in the most violent-appearing facemask tackles, the player ALWAYS gets up. That agrument just does not stand up to fact.

 

[iceberg]

The same way the decided the horse tackle should be banned. I think we both know which typye of infractions pose similar harm. It doesn't have to be a perfect rule but it should show some effort was taken to discourage players to avoid infractions that cause major harm; it shouldn't just include the horse collar tackle. If they want to add additional infractions to the rule as time progresses they can. Right now, I don't see any effort being done to try and eliminate similar risky infractions.

great. now to ensure we're comparing simular situations, name a player that has a facemask type tackle named after him that got warned and then not banned?

like i said - if you want an expansion of the rule, that's different. roy committed a penalty under *this* set and after written warning to stop it.

seperate issues.