Why so down now?

The Jacksonville game got everyone's hopes up. That was when we thought the Jaguars were good. It turns out that they suck this year and our fans are realizing that the blowout win means nothing,
 
OmerV said:
The team improved on defense, and it took steps to help the O-Line, and in the end it's unrealistic to expect clear and certain offseason improvement at every position where one might be desired anyway. Sometimes the man waiting in the wings has to step up. And I think we were seeing that at TE before Swaim got hurt, but unfortunately other areas it hasn't worked as well.

What I would agree with is that there shouldn't be any shock that the team isn't a serious contender, although I think it was pretty reasonable to expect the offense to be better than it has been. There was still a lot that remained to be seen, and of course, what we've seen has been disappointing.

Ultimately though it just comes down to the nature of fandom, and of sports. The invested emotions and the nature of competition, and the desire to see things go well. A person can be realistic about the season, knowing it's an uphill climb with some long odds, but would be contrary to the very essence of sports to give up before the season even begins. If that's in a person's nature I can promise you that person never had any personal success in sports.
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Wrong, wrong and wrong!
 
Everything done during trade deadline/bye week showed urgency and an attempt to win now. It failed miserably. Yes there is 8 games left, but with the exception of the decimated Skins it's the murderers row of the schedule. If they couldn't beat a floundering Titans at home with a week+ prep time, it's hard to fathom this team making 8-8. The only silver lining I find is it MAY bring about some much needed change at the top of the coaching food chain
 
Dak suckered some peeps. But I saw through it all. A lot of peeps were excited cause he was fresh and energetic.

They didn't care how he threw the ball.

The changed the bar. It's seems that 200 yd games are now the benchmark of a good qb

The got fooled by qbr which benefits dink and dunk qbs.

Every week there was a different excuse. They wanted him to be the face of the franchise so bad that they talked mad junk about Romo. Compared Dak to Aikman. Said he was better than Rogers. Said we should get a first round pick for Dak. Lol

Last week some said we should pay him about 25 mil a year

Now the narrative is that the same system that Romo was successful in and the same system that Dak ran in 2016 is now junky. I'm positive that it's not the greatest system but I believe that a franchise qb could make it work.

I'm all for coaching change but I believe we are fooling ourselves if you think that 4 is the answer
 
LocimusPrime said:
Dak suckered some peeps. But I saw through it all. A lot of peeps were excited cause he was fresh and energetic.

They didn't care how he threw the ball.

The changed the bar. It's seems that 200 yd games are now the benchmark of a good qb

The got fooled by qbr which benefits dink and dunk qbs.

Every week there was a different excuse. They wanted him to be the face of the franchise so bad that they talked mad junk about Romo. Compared Dak to Aikman. Said he was better than Rogers. Said we should get a first round pick for Dak. Lol

Last week some said we should pay him about 25 mil a year

Now the narrative is that the same system that Romo was successful in and the same system that Dak ran in 2016 is now junky. I'm positive that it's not the greatest system but I believe that a franchise qb could make it work.

I'm all for coaching change but I believe we are fooling ourselves if you think that 4 is the answer
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LocimusPrime said:
Dak suckered some peeps. But I saw through it all. A lot of peeps were excited cause he was fresh and energetic.

They didn't care how he threw the ball.

The changed the bar. It's seems that 200 yd games are now the benchmark of a good qb

The got fooled by qbr which benefits dink and dunk qbs.

Every week there was a different excuse. They wanted him to be the face of the franchise so bad that they talked mad junk about Romo. Compared Dak to Aikman. Said he was better than Rogers. Said we should get a first round pick for Dak. Lol

Last week some said we should pay him about 25 mil a year

Now the narrative is that the same system that Romo was successful in and the same system that Dak ran in 2016 is now junky. I'm positive that it's not the greatest system but I believe that a franchise qb could make it work.

I'm all for coaching change but I believe we are fooling ourselves if you think that 4 is the answer
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I don't think 4 is the answer BUT you making a coaching change and then he explores what to do at QB. You don't get a franchise QB without quality coaching already in place. Right now this team is just standing still. Garrett sucks, the QB looks like crap, Linehan is garbage.. it's a laundry list of very poor decisions that lead to these things. And something needs to change if we ever expect to improve anywhere on the field.
 
Northern_Cowboy said:
This is exactly what i never understood, they built the team for Romo then gave the team to somebody who couldn't utilize what they built it to do. I will never ever understand that
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Thought they hit the jackpot. They aren't nearly as smart as people give them credit for. I could see it clear as day. As could many others.
 
CouchCoach said:
Maybe I am missing something but exactly what did those so down and disappointed now see in this team for this season?

What did they do to address the OL, WR and TE positions? And the coaching, what did they do there?

It was an 9 win team only because the Eagles didn't need the win. It was an 8-8 team. Where did it improve?

This wasn't the 2014 or 2016 teams coming off the best record in the NFC. This was a flawed team. And a team that couldn't overcome the loss of one starter.

And how did you dismiss the QB struggles of the last half of 2017? Sell yourself that his one and only good season, 2016, was the real one and all others were pretenders?

Is it that you felt that Monday night game would be the turn it up for this team for this season. While TEN was hardly a good team, what had you seen from your Cowboys to make you believe they were/are a good team?

We discuss this every season about fan expectations and the resulting effect and I am puzzled why so many are all of the sudden ready to turn in their fan card and call it over. If it is forced optimism dashed on the rocks of reality, I get that. Nothing wrong with that.
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Going into the season, there was reason for optimism IMO. No fan of any team wants to begin the year thinking their team is going to suck, or else why would we even bother being fans? The hope of years like '14 and '16 are what keep us hanging around.

To address the line they went out and got better quality depth. Chaz Green got booted, Connor Williams was drafted. No one foresaw Fred coming down with a rare degenerative disease that could (hopefully not) end his career. The play of the OL so far this year has been disappointing, but I wouldn't say it hadn't been addressed.

For WR, T-Will got extended. Him coming down with a season ending injury is just part of football. Gallup was a great pick in the 3rd and will develop into a serviceable guy IMO. Bringing in Hurns and Austin and trying to approach the WR-by-committee was a good idea on paper, but the game planning and execution has been poor. I think in the future Cooper, T-Will, Gallup, Beas, etc. will make for a nice group of capable WRs. So again, moves were made.

For TE, Witten retiring when he did was a blow. Swaim has been decent before he got hurt, but otherwise yeah, there's a pretty big hole there on the roster. Schultz still has a long way to go in run blocking and Rico has never developed. You can't fix every position overnight though.

For the most part I would say the team addressed areas that seemed to cause the issues on offense last year, although they continue to bleed over, and then other circumstances - injuries mostly - have combined into the product we all saw during the MNF game. The OL still isn't playing that great, the game planning is poor, Zeke isn't getting fed, and Dak continues to struggle because he has stopped looking down field and has happy feet standing in the pocket. It's a collective issue that starts at the coaching and trickles down to execution from the players.

It's disappointing, to say the least, but I don't think it was unreasonable for fans to be optimistic about the team heading into the season.
 
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CouchCoach said:
Maybe I am missing something but exactly what did those so down and disappointed now see in this team for this season?

What did they do to address the OL, WR and TE positions? And the coaching, what did they do there?

It was an 9 win team only because the Eagles didn't need the win. It was an 8-8 team. Where did it improve?

This wasn't the 2014 or 2016 teams coming off the best record in the NFC. This was a flawed team. And a team that couldn't overcome the loss of one starter.

And how did you dismiss the QB struggles of the last half of 2017? Sell yourself that his one and only good season, 2016, was the real one and all others were pretenders?

Is it that you felt that Monday night game would be the turn it up for this team for this season. While TEN was hardly a good team, what had you seen from your Cowboys to make you believe they were/are a good team?

We discuss this every season about fan expectations and the resulting effect and I am puzzled why so many are all of the sudden ready to turn in their fan card and call it over. If it is forced optimism dashed on the rocks of reality, I get that. Nothing wrong with that.
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i am not ready to turn in my fan card...been a loyal fan since 1971....but the pain is so so so deep...i let the cowboys in and they rip my heart to shreds ..and i will probably let them back in again in future....i must have a serious mental disease?
 
Dak regressed hardcore and the OL suddenly can't hit routine blocks after being one of the NFL's most dominant units from 2014-17. I don't know what else to say, this offense is a disaster. And pitching in a 1st on Amari Cooper was just throwing good money after bad and the worst decision this FO has made in years. I still have hopes that he'll be a good WR for us (that double move he had for a TD Monday night was disgusting), but we peed away a guaranteed top 20 draft pick to try and salvage one season that was already off the rails. Trading 5 years of the future in return for the present is absolutely stupid when the present is a 3-5 campaign.

Sad thing is the defense finally stepped up for the first time in a decade, right as the other side of the ball is collapsing.
 
I didnt expect a Contender but the current Status of this Team is shocking to me.

Also i didnt think it was possible for Dak to Regress even more than the back half of 2017.

I was thinking he would be way more productive with T-Smith and Zeke back but its even worse and you cant make me believe that its now all Fredericks missing that causes this. Also i dont believe that Dez and Witten would have helped this Season. They were on the downhill of their Careers.

This Team is so dull its not even fun to watch and the worst Thing is that we dont even have the Draft to look Forward to. Dark times ahead.
 
If we are all being honest, there is no reason to be optimistic anymore. The Cooper trade says it all. I like Cooper, but he was not worth a top 5 pick ... the trade would only be beneficial if we won 9-10 games. That's what's disappointing about this team, the supposed football people refuse to correct what's really wrong with the team, that's why Jones makes dumb trades. Instead of trading for Cooper, both Coordinators should have been out the door during the bye week.
 
Let's see:

1. Hire Dak's subordinate as his coach.
2. Trade oline coaches with a team who doesn't have a very good o-line.
3. Get 4 scrub TEs
4. See #3 for wide receivers, but we will just get lot of them.
5. Hire a journeyman WR coach to coach up this pile of garbage

Sounds about right. The only move they made this offseason that seems to have worked is getting Kris Richard in here, and that could just be smoke and mirrors.
 
CyberB0b said:
Let's see:

1. Hire Dak's subordinate as his coach.
2. Trade oline coaches with a team who doesn't have a very good o-line.
3. Get 4 scrub TEs
4. See #3 for wide receivers, but we will just get lot of them.
5. Hire a journeyman WR coach to coach up this pile of garbage

Sounds about right. The only move they made this offseason that seems to have worked is getting Kris Richard in here, and that could just be smoke and mirrors.
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Also didnt get dependable D-Liners alongside the few we have. They still believe in guys like Irving or Gregory who are suspended most of the year.

The worst part really though is the Coaching Staff. They consist of former Failures or guys with Little to no experience. This is not a formula for winning.

I absolutely believe that Garrett and Co. couldnt win with Bama in College.
 
LocimusPrime said:
Dak suckered some peeps. But I saw through it all. A lot of peeps were excited cause he was fresh and energetic.

They didn't care how he threw the ball.

The changed the bar. It's seems that 200 yd games are now the benchmark of a good qb

The got fooled by qbr which benefits dink and dunk qbs.

Every week there was a different excuse. They wanted him to be the face of the franchise so bad that they talked mad junk about Romo. Compared Dak to Aikman. Said he was better than Rogers. Said we should get a first round pick for Dak. Lol

Last week some said we should pay him about 25 mil a year

Now the narrative is that the same system that Romo was successful in and the same system that Dak ran in 2016 is now junky. I'm positive that it's not the greatest system but I believe that a franchise qb could make it work.

I'm all for coaching change but I believe we are fooling ourselves if you think that 4 is the answer
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Man, y'all know the only reason for the impetus of my very being a forum member of the forum was due to the initial preseason game #1 of the #4 in 2016 was to
" crow" about his footballish game that was visually obvious, back then& while the beyond apparent drop-off from his unpolished preseason presentation from back then to the complete "over the cliff" plunge in game day crap we are enjoying from him now!,,, are not inherent to a footballers lifelong aspired & worked towards capably developed 'mo-jo',,,ya know?,,,somewhere/ somehow along this short run the #4 has been granted the opportunity to have been blessed with in his young life ,has been tainted/ poisoned by someone within his small sphere of the franchises realm of influence,,, er,,, were I to cast an off the cuff guess concerning just who could possibly possess the most potent poison within this flaming nosedive of his formerly lauded capabilities? ,,,well, if it ain't from the overbearing berating from a soul sapping head coach,,,it's got to be originating from the grand creator of all things since time immortal for the haughtyness expressed by taking that Campbell's Chunky soup endorsement due of his newfound world renowned fame he'd found himself living,,, &,,, that dude seems of the HUMBLE type to me,ya know?o_O
 
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