Why so hard for some to like Romo?

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Alexander said:
Absolutely. I think getting much out of any undrafted player is always a bonus. Teams spend millions and invest draft choices just to find backups sometimes.

See: Todd Collins. :p:
 

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Dale said:
I don't think that's an unfair analysis.

And frankly, if we got a solid career backup out of a non-drafted player, I'd be pretty happy.
I agree. What would be bad about that?
 

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Silverstar said:
He wasn't drafted and Jones and Parcells decide who gets drafted. Also, if Parcells and Jones thought highly of Romo, why would they agree to trade a 3rd round pick for Henson the next year?

Jones has said, in multiple occasions, that they are taking chances.

One time he said something about hoping to hit a home run.

I always felt he was trying to hit a home run while using a wiffle ball bat.

In otherwords, buying cheap and hoping it pays off.

However when all is said and done he was getting options at a cheap price. Leaf, Qunicy, Hutch, Romo, Henson, Testeverde and Bledsoe. The highest pick was QC in that whole list.

This is different than using a high first round pick on a QB or making a huge splash and paying a huge signing bonus to get one of the top FA QBs in the league during an offseason.
 

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I know there are some who think I don't because I like Henson so much. I openly admit I don't think he has an NFL caliber arm. He reminds me of Chad Pennington in that regard. His accuracy and touch rest in the fact that he never simply goes for broke. Nothing wrong with that. If he did go for broke like a Brett Favre I think he'd fail miserably. It's not his game. The "gunslinger" stuff just doesn't fit. He's more suited to a WCO with dinks and dunks. Again, there is nothing wrong with that. It just isn't my favorite QB recipe.

I'd take a healthy Chad Pennington over many strong-arms any day of the week. Ryan Leaf fit the profile and could throw the ball through a brickwall. So did Jeff George. So could Chad Hutchinson to be honest. But all three had something mentally wrong with them. Either in dealing with the rigors of the game, teammates or coaches.

The intangibles have to be there and if what you are suggesting is possible with Henson (the scared of Coach Parcells bit), then we really cannot depend on him. There is something, I believe, to the idea that Henson simply hasn't figured out Coach Parcells yet and may be too sensitive. He isn't for everyone, that is certain.
 

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I all alternatively hate either Romo or Henson, whichever I think can upset the most people :D

I won't badmouth Bledsoe though. He's earned respect.
 

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baj1dallas said:
I all alternatively hate either Romo or Henson, whichever I think can upset the most people :D

I won't badmouth Bledsoe though. He's earned respect.


I know you are joking with this.

But I really think that initially some people started liking Romo because of the Henson love by many fans.

People wanted to be different and hope it panned out for them down the road.

I know that is sad, but I really believe there are a few that started out that way concerning Romo.

We even had one guy try it with Mroz.
 

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Alexander said:
I'd take a healthy Chad Pennington over many strong-arms any day of the week. Ryan Leaf fit the profile and could throw the ball through a brickwall. So did Jeff George. So could Chad Hutchinson to be honest. But all three had something mentally wrong with them. Either in dealing with the rigors of the game, teammates or coaches.

The intangibles have to be there and if what you are suggesting is possible with Henson (the scared of Coach Parcells bit), then we really cannot depend on him. There is something, I believe, to the idea that Henson simply hasn't figured out Coach Parcells yet and may be too sensitive. He isn't for everyone, that is certain.
I'd rather move on from all the names you just listed, Pennington included.

I agree, if he shows any fear at all, even to his Coach, the team will sense it. Great QBs take control and make the coach notice. He hasn't done that yet for whatever reason. That's on him, not Parcells.
 

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Hostile said:
I'd rather move on from all the names you just listed, Pennington included.

I agree, if he shows any fear at all, even to his Coach, the team will sense it. Great QBs take control and make the coach notice. He hasn't done that yet for whatever reason. That's on him, not Parcells.

So you want the cannon-arm, accuracy, pedigree and instincts?

That's pretty greedy. If I get two out of those four, I can cope.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
Jones has said, in multiple occasions, that they are taking chances.

One time he said something about hoping to hit a home run.

I always felt he was trying to hit a home run while using a wiffle ball bat.

In otherwords, buying cheap and hoping it pays off.

However when all is said and done he was getting options at a cheap price. Leaf, Qunicy, Hutch, Romo, Henson, Testeverde and Bledsoe. The highest pick was QC in that whole list.

This is different than using a high first round pick on a QB or making a huge splash and paying a huge signing bonus to get one of the top FA QBs in the league during an offseason.


I understand the reasoning for Romo being here, but Henson still started that game against Chicago.

Why didn't Mr. Preseason get his chance then?

As long as Henson is on the roster, I don't think Romo has much of a future in Dallas. If Henson gets cut, ok then let's talk, but what are the chances of that happening this year....heck even next year?

Also, I think Henson could perform just as good as Romo did Saturday night.
 

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Alexander said:
So you want the cannon-arm, accuracy, pedigree and instincts?

That's pretty greedy. If I get two out of those four, I can cope.

hey - as cowboy fans we've been spoiled. we're used to the aikmans, staubauchs and so forth and when we must "drop off" we drop off to danny white - who was still damn good.

now we fumble through our usual mixture of hogebooms, peullers and sweeneys before we find out next "pedigree" and this is much of what frustrates many fans.

when in cowboys history have we ever relied on an outside aging vet to guide us vs. growing our own 'groceries'? most vets i can recall were backups to our homegrown players and this is so different to us and we want "back on track" - and having someone that fits the mold such as henson *is* tantalizing to us in many ways.

that said, i still don't get the hate exhumed by either side over one or the other.
 

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Hos - weren't you clamoring for the backup QB from the Titans the past few year? ROTFLMAO. You guys always want the "golden boy" at qb here in dallas.


cowboy fans say "trust in Tuna, except the QB position"...

but i offer this corollary

never listen to a die-hard "cowboy fanatics" about QBs :)

1. we are spoiled (Don, Roger, Troy & 5 Lombardi trophies)
2. like fellow ny yankee fans they demand a BIG NAME ALL STARS at QB
3. they argued endlessly which turd would be easier to polish (hutch or qc)
4. our OWNER is impetuous and the worst QB evaluator on the planet
5. they can't comprehend that every winning QB is a bus driver.

:)
 

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iceberg said:
hey - as cowboy fans we've been spoiled. we're used to the aikmans, staubauchs and so forth and when we must "drop off" we drop off to danny white - who was still damn good.

now we fumble through our usual mixture of hogebooms, peullers and sweeneys before we find out next "pedigree" and this is much of what frustrates many fans.

when in cowboys history have we ever relied on an outside aging vet to guide us vs. growing our own 'groceries'? most vets i can recall were backups to our homegrown players and this is so different to us and we want "back on track" - and having someone that fits the mold such as henson *is* tantalizing to us in many ways.

that said, i still don't get the hate exhumed by either side over one or the other.

Jerry Jones has said it before, those franchise types cost.

If you want the "franchise" QB, chances are you had a very bad team and got the opportunity for one. That's Aikman.

As for Roger Staubach, I think that was clear case of luck. Nobody was willing to spend a draft choice on him knowing he would not play for four years. We took a chance and it panned out.

I will say this, I think some looked at Henson and got visions of little Staubachs dancing in their heads. Being clever was something that we have always done, from Staubach, getting Randy White for basically Craig Morton, the trade with Seattle to get Dorsett, the drafting of Chad Hennings, to the Walker acquisition and subsequent trade, the drafting of Emmitt Smith.

The idea of swindling a franchise QB off someone else's roster for the relatively cheap value of a third round pick is very appealing to our sense of vanity.
 

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Silverstar said:
I understand the reasoning for Romo being here, but Henson still started that game against Chicago.

Why didn't Mr. Preseason get his chance then?

As long as Henson is on the roster, I don't think Romo has much of a future in Dallas. If Henson gets cut, ok then let's talk, but what are the chances of that happening this year....heck even next year?

Also, I think Henson could perform just as good as Romo did Saturday night.


Everything the last two years says the direct opposite IMO.

To be honest...a big part of me thinks neither one of these guys are the future franchise starter for the Dallas Cowboys.
 

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I just don't get the people out here wanting Romo to replace Bledsoe right now. Bledsoe is a borderline hall of fame type player who hasn't shown that hes lost a major step. Romo is someone whos never thrown a pass in a real football game in a while.

I still regret that we didn't see either Henson or Romo in the last game last year. That seems like it would have been a good time to toss out a single start, though it would have been with minimal prep.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
Everything the last two years says the direct opposite IMO.

To be honest...a big part of me thinks neither one of these guys are the future franchise starter for the Dallas Cowboys.


Heck, I'd like to draft a QB in the 1st round myself. There are a lot of good QB's in college right now with loads of potential. My personal favorite is Trent Edwards out of Stanford. I hope he has a really good year, but not a great one where scouts drooling over him. I want him to stay on the board until our pick at 32. :D
 

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Silverstar said:
Heck, I'd like to draft a QB in the 1st round myself. There are a lot of good QB's in college right now with loads of potential. My personal favorite is Trent Edwards out of Stanford. I hope he has a really good year, but not a great one where scouts drooling over him. I want him to stay on the board until our pick at 32. :D


I hear you.

Don't know the health status or even how he did this past season but that Brohm kid from Louisville really impressed me as a freshman the few times I saw him.
 

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Derinyar said:
I just don't get the people out here wanting Romo to replace Bledsoe right now. Bledsoe is a borderline hall of fame type player who hasn't shown that hes lost a major step. Romo is someone whos never thrown a pass in a real football game in a while.


I think it's a clear case of fans knowing what we have in Bledsoe with his flaws, (holding the ball too long, etc.) and the unknown of Romo who some fans think will be the next Delhomme.

I've always said this QB debate has never been about Romo vs. Henson, (no matter how some childish fans have tried to make it out to be), it's about whether we have a QB for the future that will allow us to compete with the teams who have the elite QBs like Brady, Manning, Rothlisberger and Palmer, (pre-injury). Those teams are in the SB hunt every year.

I frankly don't think Romo has those type of skills.
 

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Alexander said:
So you want the cannon-arm, accuracy, pedigree and instincts?

That's pretty greedy. If I get two out of those four, I can cope.
Yes, I do. I admit I'm spoiled. I feel that's the formula for a championship team. I want great QBs, not above par QBs.
 

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chinch said:
Hos - weren't you clamoring for the backup QB from the Titans the past few year? ROTFLMAO. You guys always want the "golden boy" at qb here in dallas.

cowboy fans say "trust in Tuna, except the QB position"...

but i offer this corollary

never listen to a die-hard "cowboy fanatics" about QBs :)

1. we are spoiled (Don, Roger, Troy & 5 Lombardi trophies)
2. like fellow ny yankee fans they demand a BIG NAME ALL STARS at QB
3. they argued endlessly which turd would be easier to polish (hutch or qc)
4. our OWNER is impetuous and the worst QB evaluator on the planet
5. they can't comprehend that every winning QB is a bus driver.

:)
Billy Volek? No, that would have been Bob_Roberts, and to his credit Volek isn't a bad QB. I've never clamored for the Atlanta backup either, so don't go there.

The only QBs I have ever mentioned an interest in that weren't in the Draft are Daunte Culpepper, Drew Bledsoe, and Kurt Warner with the latter 2 as mentors while we groom a replacement. I briefly have mentioned Tim Couch and Kerry Collins, but none of these guys were "clamored for."

Yeah, it's real stupid to hope for a Tom Brady, John Elway, or Brett Favre caliber player on our football team. Forgive me, I bow to your superior understanding of winning football. [/sarcasm off]
 
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