Why so hard for some to like Romo?

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Jimz31 said:
Dude, I was explainingwhy I replied to your post the way that I did.

Honestly, "advantage you", doesn't sound complimentary to me....I say that because I wasn't trying to "one-up" you or anything.

I'm not sensitive about the QB issue AT ALL. If I were , I would have a TON more posts than I do.
Thread asked a pointed question. Why so hard for some to like Romo?

You and I both tried to narrow it down to one answer and be brief. At virtually the same time. I went back and read your post, agreed with it, and pointed out you said it even briefer, and complimented you on it.

I don't understand how "advantage you" is a slap in the face. Especially when the 1st thing I said was "good point." I'll try not to be so cryptic from now on. I really don't know how, but it's obvious anything I say to you on QBs is going to be borderline upsetting.
 

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Hostile said:
Thread asked a pointed question. Why so hard for some to like Romo?

You and I both tried to narrow it down to one answer and be brief. At virtually the same time. I went back and read your post, agreed with it, and pointed out you said it even briefer, and complimented you on it.

I don't understand how "advantage you" is a slap in the face. Especially when the 1st thing I said was "good point." I'll try not to be so cryptic from now on. I really don't know how, but it's obvious anything I say to you on QBs is going to be borderline upsetting.
OK, then it was a misundersatnding.

On the contrary about the QB situation. Really, our only disagreement has been when QC/Hutch were here.

As far as Henson/Romo goes, I would love for one of them....EITHER one of them to become "the guy", I just don't see it at this point.

You liked Henson from the get-go. That's fine with me.

Back to the QB situation and it upsetting me.....I don't get "upset" with any of this. It's kinda hard to tell how a person feels on a message board. When I said "What does that mean?", it was a simple question.....I didn't have any "anger" or anything....I just didn't know what you meant by it.

I respect your opinion when it comes to QB's. I would say that your opinion holds a little more weight with me than others on here, based on the fact that you have more intimate experience with it with what you used to do.
 

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Jimz31 said:
Once again, it had to do with explaining my post.

Secondly, did you even READ my post? I said that we may not even have the QB of the future on this team.

And i was commenting on your explanation. A precipitated whine is a whine nonetheless.

I will admit that i misread your post in thinking you were saying that the Henson camp has more vitriol than the Romo camp when in fact you wre being specific to your own situation.

I personally loathe anyone who calls themselves a fan of the Cowboys yet is disappointed whn a guy with a star on his helmet does well or is pleased when they perform poorly.

REgardless Hos is no fun to get into it with he generally tries to be level headed. Mr Winky on the other hand.......
 

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Jimz31 said:
OK, then it was a misundersatnding.
Fair enough.

Jimz31 said:
On the contrary about the QB situation. Really, our only disagreement has been when QC/Hutch were here.
Actually it was just about whether Q had "it" or could get "it," because I never cared for Hutch in the first place. Go back and look. I constantly said it was ridiculous. I often said they weren't Montana vs. Young. In fact I compared them to diahhrea and constipation. I got placed in the Hutch camp without ever being in his camp. It was, and is, amazing.

Jimz31 said:
As far as Henson/Romo goes, I would love for one of them....EITHER one of them to become "the guy", I just don't see it at this point.
I don't either as long as Parcells is here. I do not like the decisons he has made at QB since he's been here. That upsets people. I don't care. We needed to see what Romo could do. No duh, because in 3 previous years here he hasn't been given the chance to do anything when it mattered except take a knee.

People always talk about Parcells hates Henson. Show me this great love for Romo. He hasn't done either kid any favors. We wouldn't have needed to see Romo for an entire pre-season game if he hadn't been a hard headed stooge about playing them. Ruin them my rear end. People actually buy that slop.

Hey, he's a HOF Head Coach and I'm not. So he must be right and I'm wrong. Doesn't bother me in the least. I'm not impressed by his faux pas.

Jimz31 said:
You liked Henson from the get-go. That's fine with me.
Yeah, I did, and still do, and think that the hatred or doubt of him is awfully petty. Just a continuation of the past really.

Jimz31 said:
Back to the QB situation and it upsetting me.....I don't get "upset" with any of this. It's kinda hard to tell how a person feels on a message board. When I said "What does that mean?", it was a simple question.....I didn't have any "anger" or anything....I just didn't know what you meant by it.
Like I said, when I preface a statement with "good point" then talk about both of us trying to use brevity to answer the question it escapes me how "advantage you" can be taken as an insult. I just don't get that Jim.

Jimz31 said:
I respect your opinion when it comes to QB's. I would say that your opinion holds a little more weight with me than others on here, based on the fact that you have more intimate experience with it with what you used to do.
Thanks. I'll say this regarding our QB situation.

I do not, and have never, placed a lot of emphasis on the pre-season. I don't place too much emphasis on NFLE. I am however capable of appreciating the fact that both kids have played well.

From where I sit, Bledsoe is the defacto starting QB, deficiencies and all, simply because he is the most capable choice. If this team sputters and is going nowhere I hope we will not sit on our hands any more. Let's look at the young kids or quit screwing around and draft our next QB. Even if it means trading up to get him.

I don't care which one of them ends up being the guy. I really don't. I am a "Henson guy" for one reason and one reason only. He fits my prescription for a franchise QB. I've been pretty consistent about that if anyone is honest enough to look at what I've said about this subject. Until someone actually proves me wrong about Franchise QBs I won't apologize for my opinions.
 

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I don't either as long as Parcells is here. I do not like the decisons he has made at QB since he's been here. That upsets people. I don't care. We needed to see what Romo could do. No duh, because in 3 previous years here he hasn't been given the chance to do anything when it mattered except take a knee.
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He hasn't done either kid any favors. We wouldn't have needed to see Romo for an entire pre-season game if he hadn't been a hard headed stooge about playing them. Ruin them my rear end. People actually buy that slop.
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From where I sit, Bledsoe is the defacto starting QB, deficiencies and all, simply because he is the most capable choice. If this team sputters and is going nowhere I hope we will not sit on our hands any more. Let's look at the young kids or quit screwing around and draft our next QB. Even if it means trading up to get him.
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I don't care which one of them ends up being the guy. I really don't. I am a "Henson guy" for one reason and one reason only. He fits my prescription for a franchise QB. I've been pretty consistent about that if anyone is honest enough to look at what I've said about this subject. Until someone actually proves me wrong about Franchise QBs I won't apologize for my opinions.

:hammer: These quotes sum up how I feel. I feel BP really screwed up by not letting one of the young kids play after we were eliminated from the playoffs the last two years. It makes no sense at all to not let one of the two young-uns get some regular season playing time when there was nothing to lose. While I like Henson's potential a little more than Romo's it doesn't mean I dislike Romo. Heck I would be ecstatic if Romo became the guy. I am just really tired of trotting out old discards from other teams. I am ready to start a young QB to grow with a young team. That is how dynasty's are built.:banghead:
 

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Fernando Fernandez said:
Why even put Bledsoe back on the field?

So he can get sacked time and again?

Get out of here Romo lover. I even heard you on cowboyszone getting ripped for your outlandish comments.

Anyway, why put a rookie ahead of a seasoned veteran?
 

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:hammer: These quotes sum up how I feel. I feel BP really screwed up by not letting one of the young kids play after we were eliminated from the playoffs the last two years. It makes no sense at all to not let one of the two young-uns get some regular season playing time when there was nothing to lose. While I like Henson's potential a little more than Romo's it doesn't mean I dislike Romo. Heck I would be ecstatic if Romo became the guy. I am just really tired of trotting out old discards from other teams. I am ready to start a young QB to grow with a young team. That is how dynasty's are built.:banghead:

and when we went 3 games w/vinnie and NOTHING to win, i got so mad THAT is where my parcells hatred started and i simply can't see any logic to his decisions at QB since then. but when i was saying it years ago that there would come a time we're going to HAVE to find out if these kids can play i got the same load of crap those of us who bothered to speak out get.

you cross the company line prepare for the company defense to rail on you.

we had 3 games of prime opportunity and BEST CHANCE TO WIN!!! was the mantra. win what?

then i was told in great force that you could tell NOTHING about a qb in games like that. yet now, these same people are harping how well romo did and wow - look!!! playing time does wonders for a qb!!!

really? well why didn't i think of that?

my only glimmer of hope is parcells FINALLEY let someone else play ANYTHING at all in some form of game. rumors of parcells being worried about the line i'll have to keep an eye on - and i think everyone knows why. (for the newbies, i thought parcells knew his qb of choice's weakness and failed miserably to do anything so he could stock up on the DL which is his favorite toy)

i think this is gonna be a hard season for fans to take and i think you'll see more arguing and bickering among fans as the season progresses.
 

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I like Romo a lot. That being said, 13 points will not win many games in the regular season.

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Bone said:
I like Romo a lot. That being said, 13 points will not win many games in the regular season.

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Especially when HALF of the other teams starters are out.....:banghead:
 

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sbuscha said:
Especially when HALF of the other teams starters are out.....:banghead:

And you don't necessarily gameplan to score a ton of points in a preseason game unless you are Mike Martz or Dennis Green.
 

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ghst187 said:
I haven't really noticed people hating on Romo around here....
There is MUCH more hate posted here for Henson and even Bledsoe....much more than any Romo hate. I don't think BP likes Henson at all but I still trust BP on most things besides drafting and play-calling.
I thought Henson would really be our guy but I certainly have never hated on Romo. I'm rooting for both of them because the team wins bigtime that way.
I was really impressed with Romo and I think the coaches have been right in thinking that he just might have "it."
I really think that Romo would challenge for a starting job on a few teams this year. It'll be nice to know he's there and now has some experience for us if Bledsoe gets creamed.
Romo really reminds me a lot of Delhomme in the way he plays.
If the OL sucks again this year, Romo may be a better option for us.

In the bigger scheme of things also, it is critical to find out if someone on our QB roster is capable of being a starter because DB doesn't have that much left and its time to be grooming a successor.

Good post, especially the bolded section. Pourus line and Bledoe is like water and oil.
 

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Fernando Fernandez said:
Why even put Bledsoe back on the field?

So he can get sacked time and again?


To answer the Romo Question.

There are people who have just emotionally invested too much into a player.

They can invest in Romo or Henson or Bledsoe.

They get so wrapped up in defeneding or supporting one player or the other that they just can not find it in themselves to let it go.

I have seen some of the silliest arguments over backup QBs that it makes my head spin.

I have seen the exact same arguments to refute one, as someone else just used to support one.

I have seen so much stretching and reaching that I think some of these people were obsessed with Stretch Armstrong dolls as youngsters.

And here is something to also consider about this. By giving one guy props, why is it so hard to not bring the other into the equation. You asked about it earlier how if one does good so be it and if the other does good you will give props...yet only a few posts later you are making snide remarks about Bledsoe in order to support Romo.

Personally I find the factions of people who are considered the lovers or haters pretty silly and have also found they find more ways to stir more crap and blow more hot air...heck maybe we should hire some to help fix the world's energy crisis. :D

Yet I can guarentee you one thing...until we actually get a QB that answers all the questions and all (the LARGE majority as there will always be those that rebel just for the sake of being different)...we will have this problem.

I do however find it odd that the same people (not all the time but many times) that start these types of threads...are the same people who are also always in the middle stirring the proverbial poo on one side or the other.

Just amazing how some grown ups will act about people they will probably never meet, saying stuff about things they will never have inside information about yet convinced they are 100% correct while the other person is 100% wrong.

One last thing.

How mature is it for a guy to say....I called this years ago or I knew it all along and you guy said blah blah blah.

Seriously it sounds like a little kid going na na na na boo boo.

These types of things do not make one look good, even if one thinks it does.

Sometimes people do not even care one way or another about a specific QB...they just get tired of some of the antics and troll behavior of some of the extreme lovers/haters of a QB.
 

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I've watched Tony Romo practice for three years and each year, I wondered how much longer it would be 'til he got cut.

This just shows why I'm not in the personnel-evaluating business.

I've always been more excited about Henson. The college pedigree. The "name" player. The hype. The money...you name it.

He just looks the part.

But Romo is clearly the better player right now. Quietly, Parcells has been developing this guy behind the scenes. As has been stated the last few days, it's amazing to see the development that goes on that no one has any idea about.

I still hope that Henson can get it turned around and become the "next Troy Aikman" as our former lead scout once billed him as. But, I must admit, my hope with him is vastly diminishing. He just doesn't look like a guy that is turning the corner in practice.

But I once felt that way about Romo. Hopefully, I'll be wrong twice.
 

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Dale said:
I've watched Tony Romo practice for three years and each year, I wondered how much longer it would be 'til he got cut.

This just shows why I'm not in the personnel-evaluating business.

I've always been more excited about Henson. The college pedigree. The "name" player. The hype. The money...you name it.

He just looks the part.

But Romo is clearly the better player right now. Quietly, Parcells has been developing this guy behind the scenes. As has been stated the last few days, it's amazing to see the development that goes on that no one has any idea about.

I still hope that Henson can get it turned around and become the "next Troy Aikman" as our former lead scout once billed him as. But, I must admit, my hope with him is vastly diminishing. He just doesn't look like a guy that is turning the corner in practice.

But I once felt that way about Romo. Hopefully, I'll be wrong twice.

Dale, can you clarify the bolded section of your post. Developing this guy behind the scenes ??? It just sounds like he's doing something "behind the scenes for Tony and not for Henson ??" Not to sound like Hambrick...but what do behind the schenes mean ?
 

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Jarv said:
Dale, can you clarify the bolded section of your post. Developing this guy behind the scenes ??? It just sounds like he's doing something "behind the scenes for Tony and not for Henson ??" Not to sound like Hambrick...but what do behind the schenes mean ?

To clarify everything in that sentence...

I think, clearly, (given this is only my opinion and not a "proven fact") that Romo is the superior player at this moment. Throw both in a ball game and it's likely that Romo would produce the better outcome.

As for developing behind the scenes, I think that's exactly what Romo has done for three years. For all the people clamoring to see Henson play instead of retreads like Testaverde in the past just so he could develop, Romo is proving what can be done without ever playing in a game.

We rarely see Romo. He's never played in a real game. He's been subpar at practice up until this year. Yet's he's quietly improved all the while. Hence my "behind the scenes" label.

He's not a 23-game starter we have seen grow before our very eyes.

My last sentence of the previous post ("Hopefully, I'll be wrong twice...") was to insinuate that I'm hopeful that Henson, too, is "developing behind the scenes."

We may not see it in practice consistently (as I didn't with Romo in the past). He may not be out there playing on game days. But, hopefully, he's getting better and at some point in the near future will demonstrate that -- as Romo is now in the process of doing.

My opinion of Henson right now has dropped from the hope I once held. But, like I said, hopefully he'll develop "behind the scenes" like Romo has.
 

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Dale said:
To clarify everything in that sentence...

I think, clearly, (given this is only my opinion and not a "proven fact") that Romo is the superior player at this moment. Throw both in a ball game and it's likely that Romo would produce the better outcome.

As for developing behind the scenes, I think that's exactly what Romo has done for three years. For all the people clamoring to see Henson play instead of retreads like Testaverde in the past just so he could develop, Romo is proving what can be done without ever playing in a game.

We rarely see Romo. He's never played in a real game. He's been subpar at practice up until this year. Yet's he's quietly improved all the while. Hence my "behind the scenes" label.

He's not a 23-game starter we have seen grow before our very eyes.

My last sentence of the previous post ("Hopefully, I'll be wrong twice...") was to insinuate that I'm hopeful that Henson, too, is "developing behind the scenes."

We may not see it in practice consistently (as I didn't with Romo in the past). He may not be out there playing on game days. But, hopefully, he's getting better and at some point in the near future will demonstrate that -- as Romo is now in the process of doing.

My opinion of Henson right now has dropped from the hope I once held. But, like I said, hopefully he'll develop "behind the scenes" like Romo has.

thanks, dale. my friend that works sound on the sidelines has also said the scuttlebut ever since early last year was not henson, but romo. so, it looks like while people may think i'm claiming some "janitor" source, she may be right in who we have been really looking at for the last year or so anyway and even a little longer.
 

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iceberg said:
thanks, dale. my friend that works sound on the sidelines has also said the scuttlebut ever since early last year was not henson, but romo. so, it looks like while people may think i'm claiming some "janitor" source, she may be right in who we have been really looking at for the last year or so anyway and even a little longer.

I would certainly buy that.

Parcells has been more "glowing" about Romo than Henson over the last few years, it's seemed.

A lot of folks seem to want to turn this into a Parcells-hates-Henson thing.

I think it's more of a Parcells-loves-Romo thing.
 

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Romo is only here because of Sean Payton.

If Brees falters in New Orleans, there WILL be a trade IMO.
 
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