News: Why the exclusive tag and not the non-exclusive tag on Dak?

[Verdict]

Any team who "projects" to have low first rounders already has a QB.

The lone exception may be NE.

They also get the option of matching the deal. Then neither side can complain about market value anymore. It is what it is.

I believe those "poison pill" words have been outlawed that make it impossible for a team to match.

I don't see the downside at all.

There could be a downside. But that’s all conjecture, just like everything else.

 

[MaineBoy]

It is really simple.
They offered 33, 6 years, 90 guaranteed.
The length and the 20 million less than what Goff got in guaranteed money is why the offer was not taken. The tag is 33, what they offered, their offer was already lowballing him based on what Wentz and Goff got, to put the lower tag would just be another slap in the face. They caved to Zeke when he had 2 years left on his deal. Zeke who has had off field issues, got suspended, and then held out. Dak played 4 years for nothing, has 40 wins, 2 division titles, did not hold out, and kept the contract from being a distraction, had his best statistical year, and played hurt the last month of the season.

The lack of respect the fans and the Jones' are showing him is pathetic.

your post just proves that Dali’s a good citizen and that talent is what matters. Zeke is a marginal citizen with more talent at his position so he gets paid. Dak is a good citizen with average talent so he’s not getting paid as someone who has elite talent at his position. It’s not a lack of respect, it’s business.

 

[MaineBoy]

So Cowherds take on it is that Cowboys gave Dak the higher money for the sake of HARMONY. They want to keep door open for long term possibility. He said using other tag would pay him 27 million and embarrass him because no team is clamoring for Dak or would give up two first round pics for him. So why embarrass him and pay him less and poison negotiations. This should be about business; free up the extra 6 million and try to get 2 first round picks and get a QB who is really elite, not a statistical straw QB.

 

[John813]

Any team who "projects" to have low first rounders already has a QB.

The lone exception may be NE.

They also get the option of matching the deal. Then neither side can complain about market value anymore. It is what it is.

I believe those "poison pill" words have been outlawed that make it impossible for a team to match.

I don't see the downside at all.

IIRC the 30% rule was created to prevent large swings in cap hits. So a team with 90 mil in cap space couldn't make his first year cap hit 50mil, then 20 mil the next year, for example.
Poison pill contracts had stipulations, such as if another offensive lineman was getting paid more, your deal would be fully guaranteed. A la with Steve Hutchinson who signed a 7 yr 49 mil poison pill contract back in 2006 with the Vikings.

But one way teams can get around the 30% rule is the signing bonus. Offer a large SB where the player takes home vast sums of money day 1, while keeping the cap hits level.

Teams that don't operate with a blank checkbook can feel the squeeze with huge signing bonuses. Supposedly, the rumor on Mark Davis was that he couldn't afford the signing bonus for Khalil Mack. While he can fund the day to day operations+salaries for all 53 players, paying 1 guy 41 mil the first year is a lot to eat.

 

[Proof]

Cowboy fans: "Sure, Dak is just as good as Goff or Wentz, but he hasn't won a Super Bowl".

Also Cowboy fans: "Why would any team trade half of the package teams gave up for Goff or Wentz for a guy who has proven to be as good or better?"

Rookie contracts plus expectations vs reality

 

[America's Cowboy]

1. Because it means paying him $6M more per year unnecessarily, should he have to play on the tag.
2. The non-exclusive tag would allow his agent to test the market and probably verify that no one would offer $40M per year
3. If there is an offer, the Cowboys can still match it
4. If there is an offer that they cannot or do not want to match, they'll land two 1st round picks, which can be either packaged to move up and get one of the top tier QBs in this draft or you stay at #17, take Eason or Love and you have two more firsts to improve your team

That's why.

I'll turn it around, why would you give the exclusive tag? Is there any reason at all except the fear of not insulting him?

It's because Jerry, Stephen and McCarthy don't want to risk losing Dak at all. Dak is their guy whether any fan likes it or not, and I personally agree with them. All of this constant complaining is pretty embarrassing, especially coming from several unappreciative Cowboys fans.

 

[Kevinicus]

What you are missing is that nearly all of the teams that need a quarterback are bad teams with high draft picks.

Here is the list of teams that legit need a starting quarterback in 2020:

Bengals (#1)
Lions (#3)
Dolphins (#5)
Chargers (#6)
Raiders (#12 and #18)
Colts (#13)
Buccaneers (#14)
Patriots (#23) - if they don’t resign Brady

So the worst case is the Pats, but giving up two firsts for a quarterback doesn’t seem like something in Belichick’s playbook.

But let’s say that he does do it. Now you have picks #17, #23 and the Pats’ first pick in 2021. According to Jimmy Johnson’s draft pick value chart, that’s 950 (#17), 760 (#23) and 350 (next year’s pick) = 2,060. That gets you up to the #3 pick overall, which means any QB except Burrow.

That’s not much of a downside.

Why would the Lions and Raiders trade to downgrade?

 

[Chuck 54]

Fish brings up the topic in his latest column, but doesn’t provide any answers. What say you, Cowboys Zoners?

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news...-exclusive-tag-for-dak-prescott-at-33-million

Given the gap (allegedly - we don’t know) in where both sides stand, this looks like it’s going to a franchise tag later this month.

Does anyone really think that another team would give up two 1’s for Dak Prescott? The difference between the two tags is $6M, not chump change, that’s a good player who could make a difference.

And so what if a team does sign him? Two first round picks is plenty of ammo to package and move up and get one of the stud QBs coming out of this draft.

Am I crazy here? Why would they put the more expensive tag on him?

NE would trade around enough to offer 2 late round 1's. Miami would package 2 for Dak because they have 3 this year.
Dallas plans to sign Dak. The exclusive tag isn't just about not losing him to another team; it's about power and negotiating. Once they put the exclusive tag on him, Dak has zero options and zero power unless he wants to sit out of football and not earn anything. Dallas holds his rights; he can't even talk to anyone. So when they decided and publicized that they would use the exclusive tag, it 1) told Dak they valued him and avoided him feeling insulted; 2) but it also took away any options for him to use in negotiating and pushed him towards wanting a deal in place.......I think.

 

[Silverz1972]

I think the cowboys are trying to do right by dak.

I would have put the non-exclusive on him myself and test his real value.

 

[doomsday9084]

Why is giving Dak the exclusive franchise tag...foolish???

Two reasons to give the non exclusive:
- It gives the team $5m extra to fill out the roster. That's a lot of money when you are talking about secondary players.
- It lets Dak test the market. If he doesn't get any bites then maybe he comes down on his asking price.

There is really no reason to give him the exclusive. Its not like you could lose him. Cowboys still have the right to match any offer.

 

[fivetwos]

IIRC the 30% rule was created to prevent large swings in cap hits. So a team with 90 mil in cap space couldn't make his first year cap hit 50mil, then 20 mil the next year, for example.
Poison pill contracts had stipulations, such as if another offensive lineman was getting paid more, your deal would be fully guaranteed. A la with Steve Hutchinson who signed a 7 yr 49 mil poison pill contract back in 2006 with the Vikings.

But one way teams can get around the 30% rule is the signing bonus. Offer a large SB where the player takes home vast sums of money day 1, while keeping the cap hits level.

Teams that don't operate with a blank checkbook can feel the squeeze with huge signing bonuses. Supposedly, the rumor on Mark Davis was that he couldn't afford the signing bonus for Khalil Mack. While he can fund the day to day operations+salaries for all 53 players, paying 1 guy 41 mil the first year is a lot to eat.

The poison pill lingo that was impossible to deal with was something like if the player played a certain number of games in a certain state (namely that where the current team plays their games), the salary would be outrageous, so the old team couldn't possibly match.

Clever, but it's what got that stuff outlawed.

 

[Little Jr]

Fish brings up the topic in his latest column, but doesn’t provide any answers. What say you, Cowboys Zoners?

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news...-exclusive-tag-for-dak-prescott-at-33-million

Given the gap (allegedly - we don’t know) in where both sides stand, this looks like it’s going to a franchise tag later this month.

Does anyone really think that another team would give up two 1’s for Dak Prescott? The difference between the two tags is $6M, not chump change, that’s a good player who could make a difference.

And so what if a team does sign him? Two first round picks is plenty of ammo to package and move up and get one of the stud QBs coming out of this draft.

Am I crazy here? Why would they put the more expensive tag on him?

Because they dont want to lose him. It only takes one team. They assumed Dak was a nice guy and would take a team friendly deal and they assumed wrong.

They just wouldnt have to match the $s they would have to match the structure. A team could offer him a little more than they are, but not an amount that they wouldnt be willing to pay. But if that team puts in a "poison pill" it could be difficult for them to match. Then you a losing a player over a few million and look like idiots and arent prepared to move on.

A team could give him 4yr 140m(35m) 120 gtd. Cowboys might be comfortable matching those numbers, but the team front loads it like SF did with Jimmy G and Daks 1st year cap hit is 45m. That puts them in a bad spot. They could do it, but they could have avoided that by just giving the 4yr 140m 120gtd to begin with and structuring how they want.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

Because they dont want to lose him. It only takes one team. They assumed Dak was a nice guy and would take a team friendly deal and they assumed wrong.

They just wouldnt have to match the $s they would have to match the structure. A team could offer him a little more than they are, but not an amount that they wouldnt be willing to pay. But if that team puts in a "poison pill" it could be difficult for them to match. Then you a losing a player over a few million and look like idiots and arent prepared to move on.

A team could give him 4yr 140m(35m) 120 gtd. Cowboys might be comfortable matching those numbers, but the team front loads it like SF did with Jimmy G and Daks 1st year cap hit is 45m. That puts them in a bad spot. They could do it, but they could have avoided that by just giving the 4yr 140m 120gtd to begin with and structuring how they want.

Take the 2 1st round picks and run with them as fast as you can. We could turn this team around in a hearbeat this season with 3 1st round picks (2 + our own) then go out and sign a veteran for a year or 2 to QB the team

 

[Jarv]

I would use the non-exclusive to give Dak 7 million reasons to get a long term deal done.

Plus it lets his agent talk to other teams to see what his market value really is.

What is the downside, having the Chargers or some other team with a top 10 pick do something stupid?

Agreed.

 

[Jarv]

Dak hater logic. He is not good enough to keep and can be replaced by a rookie QB or a journeyman like Bridgewater, but he is so good that teams, in a position to draft a rookie or sign Bridgewater, will give up 2 firsts and pay him a big contract.

The opposite would also be true, if he is as good as you think...Then we should have no problem getting 2 draft picks to get a top QB for much cheaper.

 

[Adreme]

The opposite would also be true, if he is as good as you think...Then we should have no problem getting 2 draft picks to get a top QB for much cheaper.

Potential top QB with potential being the operative word remembering that you are hoping you that you do not do like most teams and hit someone on the level of Mitch Trubisky because then any championship window is closed.

 

[blindzebra]

The opposite would also be true, if he is as good as you think...Then we should have no problem getting 2 draft picks to get a top QB for much cheaper.

A top QB that is a complete unknown. For every Mahomes there are dozens of Paxton Lynches.

 

[TheSkaven]

Because they dont want to lose him. It only takes one team. They assumed Dak was a nice guy and would take a team friendly deal and they assumed wrong.

They just wouldnt have to match the $s they would have to match the structure. A team could offer him a little more than they are, but not an amount that they wouldnt be willing to pay. But if that team puts in a "poison pill" it could be difficult for them to match. Then you a losing a player over a few million and look like idiots and arent prepared to move on.

A team could give him 4yr 140m(35m) 120 gtd. Cowboys might be comfortable matching those numbers, but the team front loads it like SF did with Jimmy G and Daks 1st year cap hit is 45m. That puts them in a bad spot. They could do it, but they could have avoided that by just giving the 4yr 140m 120gtd to begin with and structuring how they want.

OK. So you’re saying that they don’t believe it is worth the risk, and that the two 1’s they’d get in that case wouldn’t be enough compensation.

If that’s the case then I flat out disagree with the organization. I’m good with Dak as my QB1 for the right price. But there’s almost no one on this team, no let me fix that, there is no one on this team right now that I wouldn’t trade for two 1’s, especially if one of them is a high 1.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Yeah, where was he when Tony got his big payday for those whopping 2 playoff wins he had? Cue the he had no talent around him and defense let him down excuses...you know the ones they won't allow anyone to use for Dak.

Just because YOU say "cue" doesn't mean that isn't exactly what happened.

What player from Tony's offense went to another team and succeeded as much as at Dallas?

That's what I thought.

Not "looking back Dak-hater"....just keeping things real. Thanks.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

If Dak was worth it then I would be all for it. But, Dak ain't Brady...Sorry![/QUOT

There could be a downside. But that’s all conjecture, just like everything else.

That's what the internet is for! "Conjecture"