Why the Justin Herbert contract is good news for the Cowboys

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I'm not sure the first point is really much of a factor. I doubt Dak was ever opposed to signing a deal early as long as it was near the top of the market. I just don't think Jerry was offering that when he first started negotiating with Dak the last time.

I'm also not sure we want to use Herbert's contract as a benchmark. Dak is 5 years older and he's coming off his worst season since 2017. Obviously that doesn't mean he and the Cowboys can't have a great year this season, but as things sit today Dak's career doesn't seem to be as much on the rise as Herbert's
Martin's contract ended now being about 8th in pecking order and raised a problem accordingly. Contract tendencies do affect agent recommendations as to renegotiations.
 

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Look I hate to keep bringing this up you do realize there's three to four running backs on every team there's 32 teams let's just keep it at three what is that 100 running backs they're only 32 kickers of course the average is going to be brought way down on running back pay when you have to divide it by three times the amount of players who are diluting the average pay scale if you look at the starting money there is no kicker that even makes close to the $6 million most starters are making you know the top starters.. Basic math says stop comparing kickers to running backs in their salaries because they're nowhere close.. Again yes the bottom 40 running backs are dragging the average down but most running backs starting running backs worth their salt you know who started all this conversation like saquan Barkley you're trying to tell me that even with the franchise tag at 10 million and some say that that's kicker money are you serious that's three salaries for a kicker most kickers don't make$3 million even the best ones that's about the highest pay for most kickers.. It's been obvious to the league and to the owners that the running back position is a little easier to replace nowadays and they get hurt more often they get wore down more often and they're gonna pay that position less because it's easier to replace. Why would those salaries go up? You do realize that saquan Barkley is making probably twice as much as Emmett Smith did back then so don't say the salaries haven't gone up and when you look at how overpaid Christian McCaffrey and Kamara were who were the last two big name running backs to get paid and then they do what nothing but get hurt and under achieve when it comes to their salaries everyone wants to talk about Elliot why don't you look at what McCaffrey did in 2020 and 2021 and the first half of 2022 really those three years together, that was elliott's rookie year.. This is what's driving down the market is they literally got paid too much too quick and now it's settled back down to reality... I'm not gonna feel bad for dudes making $6 million a year or more I don't even gonna feel bad for the dudes making 1.8 million whatever the average running back makes most of those guys look at what Philadelphia paid their guys all of them together but if you look at their injury histories you look at how often they've missed games I mean that actually is what they should be getting paid given the fact that they haven't proven that they can stay on the field consistently and they don't give money back when they're hurt by the way I mean saquan Barkley would owe the league a lot so would Christian McCaffrey to pay their team back when they're injured and not playing. since that doesn't happen I think owners have seeing this in a different light and go guys are gonna get hurt a lot and they're gonna be missing games and underperforming why should we pay $16 million to a player we can replace with for half that or less?
As to the 1990's, I remember when linebackers were considered easy to replace and Jerry balked at having to pay a $1M a season salary.
 

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https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...-extension-good-news-stephen-jones-salary-cap

The Cowboys need to re-work QB Dak Prescott’s contract at some point before 2024, so the Justin Herbert extension is relevant.

Herbert’s deal is noted as five years, $262.5 million, the biggest ever for the NFL. On the surface you would think that this would be bad news for the Cowboys, as Dak Prescott’s own $40 million per year contract has only about 18 months left before it expires.



This is good news for the Cowboys in two ways. First, it gives them a precedent to point to in negotiations with Dak’s agent, that other quarterbacks are signing deals early and still reaching the top of the market. Second, it gives the Cowboys some precedent to point to if other veteran players try to use a new Dak extension as justification that they need a new deal with two years remaining. The Cowboys can claim a ‘QB exception rule’ for revisiting deals that early.

The next aspect of the extension that is good news for the Cowboys is the length of the deal, Herbert’s contract makes eight of the top-10 quarterback contracts in annual value, that are all at least five-year contracts. Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, and Josh Allen have all signed at least five-year contracts, with all but Jackson and Watson signing those deals as extensions.




...A five-year extension is much more valuable to the team than a four-year deal because of the freedom it gives Stephen Jones and Adam Prasifka to move the cap charges around year to year. Dak has a great deal of leverage in his negotiations with the team because he is their most important player and the keystone the team is built around. But the Justin Herbert contract, as well as the other recent quarterback deals have given the Cowboys some help as they go to Dak’s camp with a clear outline of what the his value is on the quarterback market, with a great deal of certainty.
Other than the fact that Herbert just signed a contract I disagree with everything else here. It's as if you don't think Dak would absolutely fall all over himself to sign a deal like this right now. The team is likely the party being reasonable and holding off.
 

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Other than the fact that Herbert just signed a contract I disagree with everything else here. It's as if you don't think Dak would absolutely fall all over himself to sign a deal like this right now. The team is likely the party being reasonable and holding off.
I have inside knowledge that the Pope is Catholic...and that post is valid on negotiating principals that are already part of the current considerations for developing a new contract. That will be pursued for a fact, in the very near future.

Ignore that or not is on you then...
 

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STOP THE NAME CALLING AND PERSONAL ATTACKS

SOME IN THE COWBOYS FANDOM REALLY DO NEED TO REALIZE THAT NOT EVERYTHING GOOD OR BAD IS ABOUT DAK.

DAK HOMERS AND HATERS, FIND ANOTHER PLAYER OR TOPIC TO DRONE ON ABOUT - SIGNED ALL THOSE TIRED OF THE DAK HOMERS AND HATERS INCESSANT ARGUMENTS
 
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