Why was Byron Jones rated so low before the combine?

JBS

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Doesn't seem like anyone has watched the tape
 

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I don't view that as a very strong rebuttal. There were some bad passing teams on his schedule, but there were three rated pretty highly. None of them had success against the guy.

So his athleticism is unheard of for his position. He was as productive as anyone could be in his situation. He literally looks like he's going against high school kids at times on the tape. His character is a plus. And he was drafted by a team that has hit home runs in the first with remarkable consistency.

You've complained about his draft status from unaffiliated individuals with a proven track record of inaccuracy. You're now discounting his production as well. Nothing is a sure thing in the draft, so if that's your concern that's fine. But it certainly appears that you're looking for any thread to disparage the pick at this point.
 

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Word is he lacks instincts. So, we have an athletic freak who lacks instincts. Think AOA, Jason Williams. Both athletic freaks who lacked football instincts.

Now, I'm not sure he is as inept as those two based on what I've seen, (which admittedly is very little) but I've said many times that the Byron Jones pick is the one that I'm most concerned with.

Why on earth would they take a player in round 1 without instincts at a position that instincts is especially needed? Workout warriors always scare me. We'll see in time I guess.
 

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Jones wonderlic 33 > Claiborne wonderlic 6

Jones athleticism > Claiborne

Chances are pretty good he will be better than Claiborne even if he has a slight learning curve.
 

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Brother. This pick was praised. Scouts with good reps, as well as our own are high on him. Yet, we want to believe couch scouts who watch "game tape" off YouTube.
 

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So, no, you don't?

I'm not sure that this thread is a good opportunity for you to complain about people not backing up their statements. Unless you think "guy on reddit" and mock drafts are acceptable evidence. Which apparently you do.

I'm on phone, but check out the highlight videos already posted by Fuzzy and you can get an idea. Not that it would matter to you. You've already made your bed. You've committed to the Travis Frederick view and that's OK. Just bring a book because it gets lonely on that island.
 

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I'm not sure that this thread is a good opportunity for you to complain about people not backing up their statements. Unless you think "guy on reddit" and mock drafts are acceptable evidence. Which apparently you do.

I'm on phone, but check out the highlight videos already posted by Fuzzy and you can get an idea. Not that it would matter to you. You've already made your bed. You've committed to the Travis Frederick view and that's OK. Just bring a book because it gets lonely on that island.

Well, you are saying "He literally looks like he's going against high school kids at times on the tape." I would just like to see it for myself. In the game footage I posted, I didn't see any of that against ECU or Michigan. I would love to see him look like he's going against high school kids on the tape. What tape are you referring to? You realize a highlight film isn't "tape", right? I mean, there are Jamarcus Russell highlight videos on youtube.
 

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October 24, 2014: http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-football/hc-uconn-east-carolina-follow-1025-20141024-story.html

"He's very highly thought of," Diaco said. "Nothing against the road scouts, but there are [NFL] executives who think very highly of him. This will actually help from a time-frame standpoint."

December 2014: http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2014/12/2014-15-draft-prospect-all-underrated-team.html

"Byron Jones, Connecticut: Jones had his season cut short with a shoulder injury, however it is tough to ignore what he accomplished in 7 games. He was a ray of light on what was a horrendous Uconn team all year long. Jones has shown the ability to play both CB and Safety, and in his toughest challenge this year stepped up and played a great game vs Shane Carden and ECU."

October 27, 2014: http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=10124

Just as Byron Jones of UConn was ready to make an appearance on our Risers list come word the senior tore his labrum and will be out for the remainder of the season. Considering the way UConn has played of late the timing its probably best it happened now. I’m told Jones had been struggling with a shoulder injury and was in fact wearing a harness when the labrum tore. I like Jones in the middle rounds and would not entirely exclude him from the third frame considering the way the cornerback class is shaping up.

 

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October 24, 2014: http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-football/hc-uconn-east-carolina-follow-1025-20141024-story.html

"He's very highly thought of," Diaco said. "Nothing against the road scouts, but there are [NFL] executives who think very highly of him. This will actually help from a time-frame standpoint."

December 2014: http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2014/12/2014-15-draft-prospect-all-underrated-team.html

"Byron Jones, Connecticut: Jones had his season cut short with a shoulder injury, however it is tough to ignore what he accomplished in 7 games. He was a ray of light on what was a horrendous Uconn team all year long. Jones has shown the ability to play both CB and Safety, and in his toughest challenge this year stepped up and played a great game vs Shane Carden and ECU."

October 27, 2014: http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=10124

Just as Byron Jones of UConn was ready to make an appearance on our Risers list come word the senior tore his labrum and will be out for the remainder of the season. Considering the way UConn has played of late the timing its probably best it happened now. I’m told Jones had been struggling with a shoulder injury and was in fact wearing a harness when the labrum tore. I like Jones in the middle rounds and would not entirely exclude him from the third frame considering the way the cornerback class is shaping up.


From your first link:

"Jones could have a shot at playing in the NFL. " Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

Did you even read the last paragraph you posted?

"I like Jones in the middle rounds and would not entirely exclude him from the third frame considering the way the cornerback class is shaping up."

In the video, his head coach is calling him one of the best in the nation.
 

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If an OP has been put down the way AdamJT has done in this thread and offered a rebuttal to any of the facts and just keeps posting on, is that right form?

There's no reason this thread shoud make it past 4 pages until the OP addresses Adam's posts.
 

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From your first link:

"Jones could have a shot at playing in the NFL. " Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

Did you even read the last paragraph you posted?

"I like Jones in the middle rounds and would not entirely exclude him from the third frame considering the way the cornerback class is shaping up."

You started off your post with a blurb about how Byron Jones was a 7th round prospect. Most things I've come across, including Byron Jones himself, saw him being picked in the middle rounds.

I'm not gonna pretend like Jones' combine didn't help his draft stock, but to act like he's some 7th round/UDFA type that had a good workout isn't accurate.
 

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Jones wonderlic 33 > Claiborne wonderlic 6

Jones athleticism > Claiborne

Chances are pretty good he will be better than Claiborne even if he has a slight learning curve.

If he doesnt end up being better than claiborne dallas shouldnt ever draft a cb again. Just get them via fa. Lol
 

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You started off your post with a blurb about how Byron Jones was a 7th round prospect. Most things I've come across, including Byron Jones himself, saw him being picked in the middle rounds.

I'm not gonna pretend like Jones' combine didn't help his draft stock, but to act like he's some 7th round/UDFA type that had a good workout isn't accurate.

Fair enough. I think it's fair to say he was projected to be somewhere around a 3rd rounder, at best. right? If that is the case, does it not concern you that he jumped into the first round after having a great workout at the combine? I really wish we had more footage of him playing, because it would probably put all of this to rest.
 
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